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RyanVT 08-03-2013 08:24 AM

need helping choosing broadhead.
 
I know this topic is usually beat to death and everybody has diffrent opinions. But im sitting here trying to pick what broadhead im going to shoot this year. I just want to know what you guys are shooting and what you think of them. Pros and cons and such. Right now im looking at rage 2 or the new rage hypodermics possibly but then I hear grim reapers or shwackers killzone. I prefer a mechanical head I like the big holes and the way they fly. I tryed the g5 t3 I got a deer with them but i just didnt care for the spider clip thing and how hard they opened. thanks for any input

SecondChance 08-03-2013 10:52 AM

100grn, 1-3/8ths cut GrimReaper Razor Cuts. No rubber bandythingy to break, deal with, or whatever else they do. Never looked back nor will ever change. Have 1 dz loaded up n ready to go, have 2 dz on shelf if the first ones run out or break.

bghunter777 08-05-2013 09:53 AM

Rockets have been in my quiver for over 15 years the band is a benefit locking blades have the potential to stay locked especially when replaced and tightened by someone other than the manufacture. The band that holds rockets in place is 100% reliable they do not fail and IMO are much more fail safe than a blade that locks.

OhioNovice 08-05-2013 04:55 PM

Im shooting Rage 2 blades for whitetail, as I do every year. And Im going to pick up a few G5 Montec CS's for my Hog hunt.

browtine7 08-05-2013 05:28 PM

I had been shooting Rage for the past 4 or 5 years and this past year I switched to Swhacker and it is by far the best performing broadhead I have ever shot

Savage Sniper 08-05-2013 05:48 PM

I shoot muzzys because I like a broadhead that will do its job every time and cannot possibly fail as long as I do my job and pull off a good shot.

peakrut 08-06-2013 10:37 AM

I am shooting the NAP Killzones again this coming season. Those fly so true and will not come loose in flight. No rattling or nothing!

huntingkidPA 08-06-2013 10:42 AM

i've shot deer with muzzy 3 blades, rage 2 blade, nap hell razors, nap thunderheads. They all killed my deer the same. i liked the rage the best because they fly just like my field points. No BH tuning needed. what i don't like is the price, and the blades are trashed after one use. i want to try some grim reapers or spitfires this year though.

RIStrutStopper 08-06-2013 05:20 PM

I don't know what your setup is, some broadheads need a bit of KE to be effective. I've had some success with Rage 2 blade but a couple of times I hit shoulder and that didn't end up very good. Last year I used 1 3/8" Grim Reaper razor tips and so far so good. I'm going to stick with them this year.

Mojotex 08-06-2013 05:51 PM

125 gr. Montec G5's , 3-blade, fixed. Simple, deadly, accurate out of my set-up.

Terphunter 08-06-2013 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by bghunter777 (Post 4071091)
Rockets have been in my quiver for over 15 years the band is a benefit locking blades have the potential to stay locked especially when replaced and tightened by someone other than the manufacture. The band that holds rockets in place is 100% reliable they do not fail and IMO are much more fail safe than a blade that locks.


I have to put a vote in for Rocket Arrowheads...Steelhead 100 grain. Field point acurate and just crush deer!

What ever you are most accurate with...not hard to kill a deer if your shot is correct!

RyanVT 08-07-2013 07:06 AM

I ended up getting rage hypodermics love the design of them. They look like they will do very well. The tip on them is great can't wait to try them on a deer

bronko22000 08-07-2013 04:57 PM

Well good luck with your choice. I would have told you that if you're shooting less than 50# to go with a cut on contact BH.

BUCKINTHEWOODZ 08-08-2013 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by browtine7 (Post 4071174)
I had been shooting Rage for the past 4 or 5 years and this past year I switched to Swhacker and it is by far the best performing broadhead I have ever shot

I agree. I shoot a swhacker also. Best broadhead on the market

danjares 08-12-2013 04:25 PM

SHWACKER!!!! IM A SHWACKER FAN, WON'T CHANGE ANYTIME SOON! Haven't lost 1 deer with them, they've never failed- were as I've had other broad heads fail, (killzones, T3, and the all Famous RAGE) The rage didn't open on a Giant! I lung shot him, he ran 30 yards in some thick stuff, heard him crash, wen't in 2 hours later and he was just laying there looking at me, I went to back out and he got up and ran and never looked back, I have the shot on film, Perfect broadside behind the shoulder 1/2 the way up the body, just perfect, I dont get it! Still makes me upset to this day. !!! So here we are SHWACKER ALL THE WAY!!!!

SecondChance 08-14-2013 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by danjares (Post 4072566)
SHWACKER!!!! IM A SHWACKER FAN, WON'T CHANGE ANYTIME SOON! Haven't lost 1 deer with them, they've never failed- were as I've had other broad heads fail, (killzones, T3, and the all Famous RAGE) The rage didn't open on a Giant! I lung shot him, he ran 30 yards in some thick stuff, heard him crash, wen't in 2 hours later and he was just laying there looking at me, I went to back out and he got up and ran and never looked back, I have the shot on film, Perfect broadside behind the shoulder 1/2 the way up the body, just perfect, I dont get it! Still makes me upset to this day. !!! So here we are SHWACKER ALL THE WAY!!!!

Then you evidently didn't hit both lungs. For even if you were to hit both lungs with a field point, the damage is enough to cause sufficient damage to harvest the animal in 2 hrs much less get up and run off like it was not hit. You more than likely hit only one lung and missed the opposite side. I personally shoot 100grn GrimReaper RazorCut, 1-3/8ths cut.

kateraxl2381 08-14-2013 02:55 PM

I shot Grim Reapers for 3 years with no complaints, but I decided to try the Rage 2 blades and decided to stick with them. They both do the job just fine.

superstrutter 08-15-2013 07:39 AM

I'm sure all these broadheads mentioned are good. I have been using Spitfire 100's for over 10 years and have had great success with them. Have never had one fail. I've shot two deer with the same broadhead many times. Just clean and sharpen.

deernutz 08-15-2013 12:44 PM

Just go eeni meeni miini moh. They all kill. It comes down to preference.

Psylocide 08-15-2013 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by deernutz (Post 4073238)
Just go eeni meeni miini moh. They all kill. It comes down to preference.

I really think the biggest choice is whether you're going to go mechanical or fixed.

Nomercy448 08-15-2013 05:56 PM

125grn Rage 2 blades Chisel Points pushed by 92ft.lbs. of energy.

Hoyt21 08-30-2013 03:28 AM

Use grim reaper for last two years. Awesome broadhead. I gringe when I go to buy 3 ..40$ or so. Im a big fan of midwestwhitetail and the rocketsteelhead looks good and little cheaper. Bill winkie swears by them for the last 15 years. Im going to try them. Good luck

bghunter777 08-30-2013 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Hoyt21 (Post 4076641)
Use grim reaper for last two years. Awesome broadhead. I gringe when I go to buy 3 ..40$ or so. Im a big fan of midwestwhitetail and the rocketsteelhead looks good and little cheaper. Bill winkie swears by them for the last 15 years. Im going to try them. Good luck

good choice steelheads are awesome! I currently shoot sidewinders but steelheads are great as well!

fastetti 08-30-2013 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by danjares (Post 4072566)
The rage didn't open on a Giant! I lung shot him, he ran 30 yards in some thick stuff, heard him crash, wen't in 2 hours later and he was just laying there looking at me, I went to back out and he got up and ran and never looked back, I have the shot on film, Perfect broadside behind the shoulder 1/2 the way up the body, just perfect, I dont get it! Still makes me upset to this day. !!! So here we are SHWACKER ALL THE WAY!!!!

We had a buck last year the the neighbor shot with a rage that didn't get very good penetration. He was a real nice 10 pointer that we were all after. We have about 8 pictures of him after he shot him. Perfect shot just no penetration. Buck looked to be fine and we we even spotted him chasing does a few weeks later. I know people love them but after seeing this buck running around and hearing the neighbor be so mad about what happened, I'm going to stick to my Slick Trick Mags.

Also, good to hear about the swacker. I thought they looked like decent broadheads but wasn't sure because of who was marketing them and how they always pushed C'mere deer which was a horrible product IMO. May have to give them a try one of these days.

MichiganWhitetails74 08-31-2013 08:08 PM

NAP Spitfire XP 100 Gr. Flawless heads and many kills with these for me.

If you put the arrow in the lungs or heart the maker of your broadhead does not matter. The animal is yours. Mechanical heads DO fly like field points...like everyone says...so that's a positive.

UpstateNYHunter 09-01-2013 07:57 AM

id recommend NAP Thunderheads, I hit dead center on my target at 50 yards. very accurate broadheads. With my bow they shoot just like field points.

Ranger77 09-04-2013 09:41 PM

RyanVT

I've shot every type of broadhead in the book I think. I've shot fast, and light, and heavy and slow, old compounds, recurves, longbows .... killed elk, mule deer, whitetails, pronghorns .....

This is what you need to know


Have your bow well tuned.

Shoot the heaviest arrows your bow will shoot well without terribly compromising trajectory. KE means nothing - it is literally the energy required to get your arrow from zero to top speed - which has nothing to do with how your arrow penetrated. Momentum is the key.

Shoot a broadhead that will NEVER FAIL YOU. mechanicals will and do fail, some other heads do too by way of top curling etc.



I shoot a Mathews Drenalin, 63 pounds, 590 grain total weight arrows with a 170 Zwickey's


Why?


Compound because I have no time to practice recurve and I got a great deal on it.

63 pounds because I can sit in the cold for 4 hours not moving and draw it.

590 grains because I couldn't get my arrows tuned to 650 grains - if I could have I would have ! HEAVY IS BETTER FOR EVERYTHING

Most people never shoot beyond 20-25 yards ... heavy means more momentum.

170 gr Zwickeys because I've never bent/broken one. Ever. 2 blades means better penetration. I resharpen them.

I have shot Slick Trick Razortricks the past couple of years with great success. THEY ARE TOUGH, and SHARP and they fly like mech's do ..... a fantastic broadhead IMO that will not fail you






That's a 200 lb KS Whitetail, first vertebrae off the skull.

No, NOT the shot I planned, but my heavy arrows and Razortricks worked.

A mechanical would NOT have done that - having the right head and arrow was the difference in wounded buck vs tagged buck


LugardGary 09-04-2013 10:23 PM

In the package NAP has included a broadhead wrench to make sure you don’t cut yourself when putting them on. I did however have an issue with the out of box sharpness of my 2 blade blood runner. I contacted NAP and they said if I sent them in they would replace them with no problems.

Doughboy2 09-19-2013 04:21 AM

I shot a very nice 8 point last year with the spitfire 100...devestating on the deer...deer went 30 yards max. The blood trail was unbelieveable...I am going to put some grim reapers in my quiver this year as well. I have heard nothing but good things about them.

nys-buckstalker 09-19-2013 07:33 AM

Some people like mechanical broad heads and others prefer fixed/replaceable broad heads. some mechanical require more kinetic energy to open than others. I personally like to shoot a fixed/replaceable blade broad head. Shot Muzzy 4 blade 100 grs for 5 years and had no real issues with them. Last year switched to Slick Trick 100 gr Razor Tricks and had no issues with them. Blew thru a doe standing broad side last year. Went thru between 2 ribs and came out thru front shoulder on other side without breaking any of blades.
What it comes down to is your choice of what you want to shoot really. All the broad heads mentioned are good ones.

Buckhunter46755 09-19-2013 07:37 AM

I'm trying the G5 T3's this year. Hope they work okay. The clips are something I have no experience with.

TX_Hoghunter 09-19-2013 07:58 AM

I have been shooting the rage since it came out and it has always done me well. I have used both the 3 blade and the 2 blade. I prefer the 2 blade.

-john

Stickthrower 09-30-2013 03:38 PM

I shot rage two blade chisel tip last year. After loosing a monster 8pt in Illinois and several other deer in Ga and Fl, I decided to go back to the trusty thunderhead. I have more than 20 rages that are bent in the ferrel area. When this happens the insert is also bent and the arrow shaft splits. First 8pt this year I lost due to not getting a pass thru. NO BLOOD anywhere and I shot the deer about 6 ft from my tree. Came home and purchased a 6pk of TH. This past weekend I shot another 8pt thru both shoulders with complete pass thru and into the dirt. He went 30 yards. I shoot and believe different than most hunters with arrow weight and speed. I want Lite and fast arrows for flatter trajectory. With the rages the arrow only goes in about a third to half of its length. Please don't say my arrows are too lite as I regularly get pass thru on 200# large boar hogs shooting both shoulders with the thunderheads. Oh fwiw, my bow shoots field pts, rages and thunderheads the same(poi).

vipertech 10-01-2013 04:46 AM

I personally dislike mechanical heads. I bought mechanicals once and after a few afternoons of shooting them I decided then and there that they are not for me. It once was an issue that some outfitters were banning use of mechanicals heads on their hunts. I'm not sure of this is still the case. But hearing that and then having my own issues with them sealed the deal for me.

I've been shooting Muzzy 3-blade 100g heads for years and have zero complaints about the performance of the head. I did shoot thunderheads at first but I didn't like how it needed a ring and then had to be screwed onto the shaft to keep the head together. Muzzy's lock in place with the tip and become one piece.

bghunter777 10-01-2013 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Stickthrower (Post 4085091)
I shot rage two blade chisel tip last year. After loosing a monster 8pt in Illinois and several other deer in Ga and Fl, I decided to go back to the trusty thunderhead. I have more than 20 rages that are bent in the ferrel area. When this happens the insert is also bent and the arrow shaft splits. First 8pt this year I lost due to not getting a pass thru. NO BLOOD anywhere and I shot the deer about 6 ft from my tree. Came home and purchased a 6pk of TH. This past weekend I shot another 8pt thru both shoulders with complete pass thru and into the dirt. He went 30 yards. I shoot and believe different than most hunters with arrow weight and speed. I want Lite and fast arrows for flatter trajectory. With the rages the arrow only goes in about a third to half of its length. Please don't say my arrows are too lite as I regularly get pass thru on 200# large boar hogs shooting both shoulders with the thunderheads. Oh fwiw, my bow shoots field pts, rages and thunderheads the same(poi).

Not all mechanicals are the same I have shot Rockets for almost 20 years and nothing but praise for them. I tried Rage for 2 season and had similar results aweful penetration and overall disgust.

Our lease no longer permits Rage as many other hunters were having similar problems. Our wounded deer have gone down drastically on our lease.

deernutz 10-01-2013 12:14 PM

I use the 100gr 4-blade muzzy's and have had 3 pass thru's this season. Great blood trails.

Arkansasmountainman 10-05-2013 07:03 PM

im a 100 gr rage extreme fan!! i recovered a doe shot with the extreme last year and her lung was hanging half way out of the hole!!

indiana deer hunter 10-06-2013 10:21 PM

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100 grain rage two blade giant holes and they fly like field points all the failure stories are bs I've used them ever since they came out you will not be disappointed, this is what they do

bghunter777 10-07-2013 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by indiana deer hunter (Post 4086834)
100 grain rage two blade giant holes and they fly like field points all the failure stories are bs I've used them ever since they came out you will not be disappointed, this is what they do

All the Problems people have had with them are not BS! that is an insane comment. Do they work well most of the time yes but they are huge heads that do not penetrate nearly as well as many others that is FACT!

They will do great on soft tissue I would never want one on my arrow when shooting through anything else. Most of the time if not all the time lost deer are poor shot placement but I want a head that gives me the best opportunity at recovering my game when things don't go perfectly and RAGE is not that head.

47616 10-16-2013 05:17 PM

Muzzy
 
IMO Muzzy is the best out there for fixed blade. they fly great they are very strong i have never broke one. you can replace the blades after the shot, and they penatrate like crazy.

for mechanicals i would say ulmer edge are the best for sure. they are sharpend on opposite sides on both ends so they cut on a spyral going in and out. they penatrate surprisingly well for mechanical, and are very strong, also the blades pivot around bones so your arrow is not slowed down and penatrates very well. (they will be in my quiver this hunting season)


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