Question for guys shooting 270 fps or more
 

This is new territory for me :D

Here is my problem........if you wanna call it that ;)

I am absolutely dialed in at 20 yards which of course has me hitting just barely high at 10 yards.........so from 0-20 I am perfect. When I move out to 30 I really don' t have room for another pin unless I stack it right against the bottom of the 20 pin which I don' t want to do. Basically at 30 yards if I put my 20 pin on the top of the vitals(maybe 2" high) I am in the 10 ring all day.

A respectably placed 2nd pin has me perfect at 40 yards........So should I lose the other 3 pins and just shoot a 20 and 40?? I can' t see putting a 30 pin in the space between them because it is just too small a space.

How the heck do you guys shoot?? Seeing how I won' t shoot past 30 yards I really could just have 1 pin and be fine I guess.

My old bow I had pins at 10-20-30 which just doesn' t work on the new Patriot.


Thanks

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I' m shooting about 295fps and I still shoot a 20-30-40-50 set-up.
If anything I set my 20 yard pin a tad low (maybe 1/2" ) It' s actually probably more like an exact 18-19 yard pin.
That and the fact that I shoot small tourney sized pins still gives me a nice gap between 20-30 even at those arrow speeds.
I tried shooting 1 pin from Zero-30+ and just never really trusted it. I like precise aiming and have no problem at all with the way I do it.........If I had those big annoying .039pins or bigger and brighter it wouldn' t work, but the way I have it I have it with fine aiming points it' s no problem seeing THROUGH the gap which is very important to me since at ranges between 20-30 or 30-40 I don' t aim with the pin, I aim with the GAP. I look at the point I want to hit between the pins and just aim with the 2 pins bracketing the spot I' m aiming at.
Actually very precise and I can really concentrate on a spot because the pin isn' t blocking it.
With a single 20 yard pin and then a 40 I wouldn' t be able to do this.

My mind and my body is trained to shoot " Gapping" pins and I can do it unconciously and very accurately, so I like the 20-30 pins.

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On my favorite compound that throws a 30-3/4" (2315) shaft with a 125 grn head at a respectful 242-245 fps., I use (1) pin out to 40 yards. I register the pin at 25 yards, and raise or lower my POA in accordance with what I have determined when shooting the bow in.

If I were to take a 40-yard shot, and I would have to know that the shot will be good before I would do so, I would need to put [/i]my[/i] pin at shoulder height to hit the kill zone.

I find that raising an lowering my POA is faster than selecting the appropriate pin, which (pin) still might not be appropriate for the estimated distance, and still might require " Kentucky" adjustment.

Being on the wrong pin (sighting) almost cost me a big buck one season. After that close call, I dumped the multi-pin setup and have been with (1) pin since.

At 270 fps (AMO), it should be a walk in the park for you to use (1) pin.

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I' m around Matt' s speed. I judge my yardage by how many pins I have in the vitals. The more the merrier.:D

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If your definately not going to shoot over 30.......I think a single pin at 20-25 yrds will work real well for you !! To me.....it also helps a lot in low light situations when you pull up and only are dealing with one pin that you know is the correct one !! ;)

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Are you shooting a single-track sight? Most recent ones have two tracks, which keeps the pins from bumping into each other.

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Yeah, I was going with BTM' s answer....For faster bows, a sight with two tracks for the pins are necessary or you can' t get them tight enough for 10 yard increments. I shoot my bow around 280+ and up to 310, the pins don' t move as far as gap. Same goes for my Tox....until you drop to 270, the clicks between distances are consistant.

BTW..I use a 20, 30, 40 and 50 yard pin. The 20 and 40 in one track and the 30 and 50 in the other. Makes pin gap allowable.

RE: Question for guys shooting 270 fps or more
 

try a sure-loc lethal weapon sight. it moves the sight out away from the bow so u are aiming at a smaller part of the target. really improved my accuracy. 20-30-40-50......nothing but goodness:D

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I shoot right at 300 and I have been using the two pin method for about 4 years now because of the exact same reason you are having. I set my top pin at about 23-25 yards. this cover me all the way to 30 yards. if it is a close shot i just put the pin right in the armpit and it done. If i' m at 20yds I a little high and 30 a little low, maybe a 4" difference between the two. It' s all dead no matter where you aim in the vitals.

set you top pin for ~25 yards a your second for 40yds. shoot and finds out where they group and pratice.

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I really only shoot 1 pin. My sight is such that I can' t remove the bottom 2 pins, but I have them lowered all the way. I sight in at 25yds.

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i have my top pin sighted in at about 15 so its an inch or so high at 10 and an inch or so low at 20, then by 30 yards i had enought of a gap to get my other pin in the second track with enough space to see between them. My brothers bow is shooting one pin out to 30 yards, we sighted it in at 20 and thenr realized it was a tick high at 10 and a tick low at 30....wish my bow was that fast, we are using the same exact arrows/length

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Im shooting a 432 grain arrow about 275 fps. I use a moveable single pin sight with one setting @ 25 yards and the other @ 40. I can easily shoot to 32 yards with the 25 yard setting and if I think I may be shooting farther than that (rarely) I just adjust it to the 40 yard setting. I get too confused trying to look at all those pins in the heat of the moment. Most of my shots are 25 and less so all I have to do it put the pin behind the shoulder and ler it rip.

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My sight does have 2 tracks.......I am not worried that the pins will be touching. It' s just that they will be right on top of each other and I......like others have already said feel very comfortable shooting " gaps" instead of pins. That is why I am contemplating just having the top pin for 0-20 and then one more pin at 40........any shots at 30 I will shoot the gap between pins.

I WILL NOT shoot at a deer over 30 yards away......period. So maybe I should just go with one damn pin and just aim a couple inches high if I need to. For every shot below 30 my one pin should be well within the kill zone.

Hmmmmm I better make a decision pretty damn quick here ;)

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ahhh the problems we face with speed. life was so simple when the arrow flew slower. it reminds me of the days when i shot my 3006 a lot. it was dead on at 25 and 225. but about 2 inches high at 100. never could figure how to mount the extra scope for that distance between 75 and 150. would have apologized for being 2 inches high to the deer but they were already dead.

seriously you should be shooting flat enough that life just gets simpler like the guys are saying. the kill zone is roughly the size of a paper plate. 2 high or low less than 30 yards won' t make huge differences. will it?

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I' m shooting a VFT and I' ve shot one pin to 30yards all year in 3-d shoots. 72lbs and a 370 grain arrow. From 1 yard to 30 yards there is only a very small diffrence in my point of impact. This has done wonders for my confidence and score. I hope it carries over to the woods this year!

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I' m shooting a VFT as well and one pin works well for me. I won' t shoot a deer past 30 yards either.

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Timber Ghost, how fast are you shooting with that set up? I would believe it has got to be smoking.

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Then I would suggest one pin dead on and around 25 yds. You will be in the kill zone out to 30 and all you need to be dead on is a little adjustment.

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Most gys around here that shoot tat kind of speed shoot a 25 and a 40 yard pin. Works great for a lot of guyys

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Atlasman: I shoot between 280-285 and solve this problem by shooting a Sight Master adjustable sight now I have 1 pin and have marks on my sight that range 20,30,40.

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I would and do shoot a single pin, I have mine set at 20yards and by practicing a lot I have no problem compensating for shots out to 30 yards which is my personal limit.

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I was using just one pin for the last few years set at 25 yards. This year I tried something a little different. I have a 10, 25 and 40 yard pin. I shoot at 273 fps. These pins are just far enough apart so that they do not get each others way. I like to have that close 10 yard pin right on so there is no guessing on a close deer.

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I also use 1 pin out to 30 yards.........where I hunt, that' s about all you need.:D