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kyboydbowhunter 09-21-2011 02:55 PM

Guy caught in the act stealing tree stand.
 
I just got word that a guy that I went to school with came out to hunt his grandparents land only to find a guy attempting to steal his tree stand.:busted: Remarkably he shot the man in the back of the knee cap and left him. Later to see him crawling to his buddy get away truck without a stand but a muzzy 100 grain fixed blade arrow in his leg.
This story made my day when I heard it.

IOWABUCKHUNTR 09-21-2011 03:04 PM

Bahahah... Serves the guy right, but hope the police were able to take it from there.

nchawkeye 09-21-2011 03:27 PM

If true, the guy that shot him could be in a lot of trouble...

CVG Ohio 09-21-2011 04:27 PM

X2....Fact he should not have been stealing the stand,but, what the other guy did was not called for. Yeah he was caught stealing the stand but the punishment did not fit the crime. My .02 cents

CVG Ohio

SteveBNy 09-21-2011 04:44 PM

Please post a link to the news article. If this happened, it did make the news.

kyboydbowhunter 09-21-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by SteveBNy (Post 3851020)
Please post a link to the news article. If this happened, it did make the news.

No, it did not make the news. The guy that shot him would not turn and himself in? I am assuming the guy that was stealing the stand did not want to call up the sheriffs department and say "Hi, I was trespassing as well as 4th degree burglary and criminal possession of burglary tool (lock cutters and crow bar). 3 charges" I assume he already had a track record too. He was caught on camera too.

I am not friends of the person that shot them just know of them from high school.:fighting0007:

Fieldmouse 09-21-2011 05:31 PM

Two words, attempted murder. Broadheads are very lethal for a reason. They open up veins to bleed the kill quickly even on poor shots. The guy is an idiot, not to mention has no balls. No stand is worth killing someone over.

fastetti 09-21-2011 05:37 PM

The guy who shot him would be in pretty big trouble if the guy who was shot was found. You are not allowed to use deadly force unless you feel like your life was in danger. Being shot in the back of the knee shows he wasn't facing the person so the person who shot was not showing aggression. I can't see how a tree stand is worth killing someone over. The guy doing the shooting would get a lot more jail time than a guy stealing a tree stand if the story took place like you say. I would certainly be mad if I saw someone stealing my stand but not enough to draw on or even let an arrow fly.

TeamWiscoUNIT61 09-21-2011 06:46 PM

that is rediculous!! i mean, needless to say , anyone caught on any of my properties would deal with some hellacious verbal/physical actions but...shooting the guy!? you would be torched in a second via legal system!! lol holy balls, if thats true thats nuts

Tribal 09-21-2011 06:55 PM

Yeah I agree with most. No different than using a gun even if he didn't intend to kill the guy. He could get jail time and the criminal could even sue him. It happens all the time. Wrong? Hell yes but not worth killing over. Sounds like a real tough guy.

itsslow98 09-21-2011 09:04 PM

I think the guy needs to work on shot placement personally, and if he shot a rage it would have likely cut his entire leg off ; )

razor6570 09-22-2011 12:45 AM

I don't believe this story!

If you shoot anyone with a broadhead anywhere. There will be in need of a hospital!

SteveBNy 09-22-2011 03:10 AM

Did not happen - good story for getting responces though.

Rick C. 09-22-2011 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by kyboydbowhunter (Post 3850956)
.... but a muzzy 100 grain fixed blade arrow in his leg

If he had been shooting a rage 2 blade, the outcome would have been much different :poke:

fshafly2 09-22-2011 10:03 AM

Highly unlikely story in the op. I don't even know why I'm bothering to comment...

-fsh

Alltlk4 09-22-2011 12:39 PM

I doubt it is true but you guys have to know there are some real stupid people out there. Not a lot suprises me anymore.

fletch920 09-22-2011 01:01 PM

BS story.......

Mottz 09-22-2011 05:22 PM

Whether this story is true or not, lets break this down into the main line of the topic.


Originally Posted by kyboydbowhunter (Post 3850956)
This story made my day when I heard it.

What kind of "hunter" would ever find joy in this? With so many accidents that have happened through hunting, why would this ever come into thought about doing to someone. Even if they may be stealing or trespassing? And yet some physical harm may be done to someone and they let him crawl away? Sounds like grounds to be tossed in prison. "He" in no way should be classified as a hunter and someone who thinks s#!* like this is the way to handle it shouldn't be classified as one either. Show me people that get busted for stuff like that and that will make my day!

kyboydbowhunter 09-28-2011 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Mottz (Post 3851549)
Whether this story is true or not, lets break this down into the main line of the topic.



What kind of "hunter" would ever find joy in this? With so many accidents that have happened through hunting, why would this ever come into thought about doing to someone. Even if they may be stealing or trespassing? And yet some physical harm may be done to someone and they let him crawl away? Sounds like grounds to be tossed in prison. "He" in no way should be classified as a hunter and someone who thinks s#!* like this is the way to handle it shouldn't be classified as one either. Show me people that get busted for stuff like that and that will make my day!

I take it you have never had something stolen that you have worked months to save up for?
I personally would never handle it that way. It was simply a story I heard.


:confused0024:"He" in no way should be classified as a hunter and someone who thinks s#!* like this is the way to handle it shouldn't be classified as one either.:confused0024:

Alltlk4 09-28-2011 05:42 AM

You may not have handled it the same way, however you say it did make your day to hear it. I am sure you were happy that the guy was caught but not happy that he was injured. If true that guy could lose his leg or if he did not go to a hospitol he could die of infection. If all of this is true someone could have died over $150 tree stand. Not sure that I could live with that on my shoulders.

kyboydbowhunter 09-28-2011 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Alltlk4 (Post 3853775)
You may not have handled it the same way, however you say it did make your day to hear it. I am sure you were happy that the guy was caught but not happy that he was injured. If true that guy could lose his leg or if he did not go to a hospitol he could die of infection. If all of this is true someone could have died over $150 tree stand. Not sure that I could live with that on my shoulders.

Yes I agree I just found it amusing at the time that the thief thought it would be good idea to get a free tree stand and he ended up getting more than he bargain for.

I would have never wasted a sharp blade on my broadhead in that situation.

Alltlk4 09-28-2011 10:28 AM

Good I am glad that is how you feel. I understand how you feel about thieves. I am sure we all have the same opinions and would love to catch someone in the act. We could write books about all the stuff we have had stolen.

halfbakedi420 09-28-2011 11:35 AM

true or not true....
some say the stand is not worth killing someone over....
i look at it like this....
its not worth your life to steel my stand, so dont take the chance...
i think its fugged up that people are basically defending the theves saying ya shouldnt kill them over it...maybe they should choose a different line of work!!??

Alltlk4 09-28-2011 11:46 AM

I don't think anyone is defending the thief. I think that the feeling is the punishment is not worth the crime. I am not going to take a shot at someone when I know that I could spend a good deal of time in prison for killing him. Weather you think it is justified or not, a court will decide if you go to jail. You have a right to feel how you want but I think placing an arrow in the back of someones knee is a little over the top for some attempted theft. I would proabably choose the "hey what the hell you think you are doing route" That will proably not land you in jail.

halfbakedi420 09-28-2011 12:45 PM

in the Great State of TeXaS, we have the right to defend our property with deadly force...maybe yall should just give the guy your addresses so they know where to get an easy score, when they get there, you can play a good trick and tell them there is another easy score over at haf's house...hahaha..that'd be a good one!

Alltlk4 09-28-2011 01:01 PM

Well you have fun sitting in your front yard and shooting anybody who steals your garden gnome's.

Edcyclopedia 09-28-2011 03:22 PM

Was it a pass through?

Dontdrinkthekoolaid 09-28-2011 03:51 PM

If there is any truth to this story I'd suggest anyone who knows either party to inform the appropriate authorities. There's a lot of reasons we have to fight for our rights to hunt and use/own the tools we do it with. This is one of those reasons.

halfbakedi420 09-28-2011 04:13 PM

If they would bring back public hangings, crime would go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down.
If the crooks know they will get killed for entering the premises, they will stay away.

texasprowler 09-28-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by razor6570 (Post 3851194)
I don't believe this story!

If you shoot anyone with a broadhead anywhere. There will be in need of a hospital!

i totally agree

Mottz 09-28-2011 05:15 PM

As a matter of fact, I have had a camera stolen, a tree stand ladder sticks stolen. Was I ticked, hell ya. Would I have shot them for doing it? Hell no. Plenty of other ways to go about it. Follow him out to his pickup sounds like a good idea to me. And for being a hunter, if that is your 1st instinct (to shoot someone) then I think that your hunting morals are wrong. Protecting your family or your house is 1 thing but a treestand sounds a little over the top.

halfbaked, Is everyone in texas have the cross the fence and get shot attitude? If so I feel sorry if one of your siblings would ever have to track a deer onto someone elses property.

snedd162 09-28-2011 08:06 PM

I think this story is a bit ridiculous. Great post though. Anyone stupid enough to Steal a Stand is Stupid enough to get shot.... But that doesn't mean you should do it lol. If it were me I would have taught the guy a lesson but shooting someone is just a tad over the top.

jcsites 09-28-2011 08:46 PM

a crime wouldnt solve another crime, let the authorities handle this kind of situation. they know better what to do.

LittleChief 09-29-2011 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3853955)
i think its fugged up that people are basically defending the theves saying ya shouldnt kill them over it...maybe they should choose a different line of work!!??

Wow! You really are "half-baked" aren't you?

WICON42 09-29-2011 05:22 AM

Hardly believable IMHO. I had a guy sitting in my stand when i got there one time and then he hurried down only to complain that my stands were too high !!^@%@$#. He also shot a small deer that he failed to tell me about and I ended up tracking it for 2 days and finally got it. While some people "deserve to be shot" as they say , doing it is another thing. Thou shall NOT kill.

Big Bullets 09-29-2011 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by WICON42 (Post 3854347)
Hardly believable IMHO. I had a guy sitting in my stand when i got there one time and then he hurried down only to complain that my stands were too high !!^@%@$#. He also shot a small deer that he failed to tell me about and I ended up tracking it for 2 days and finally got it. While some people "deserve to be shot" as they say , doing it is another thing. Thou shall NOT kill.

Unless it is justified. Our job is to decide when that is the case. Error on the side of conservatism but, if defending yourself, your family or in some cases others or even property, it is justified. In PA we now have the "Castle Doctrine".

Just being in the wrong place makes the wrongdoer fair game. That has always been the rule in my house.

halfbakedi420 09-29-2011 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by LittleChief (Post 3854341)
Wow! You really are "half-baked" aren't you?

Maybe you should get some different kinda work instead of stealing peoples stuff

UPHunter08 09-29-2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3854432)
Maybe you should get some different kinda work instead of stealing peoples stuff

Meh. The problem is that it's entirely subjective. Most people aren't qualified to make law enforcement decision on somebody else's property, much less their own (because it's more emotionally based if it's your stuff). Perfect example:

I come across a stand laying in the woods that someone else had attempted to steal (perhaps they heard the owner approaching and ditched the stand at the last minute so they wouldn't get caught). I pick it up with the intention of turning it over to law enforcement in order to get it back to the rightful owner. On the way out of the woods, I come across pissed-off Halfbaked who mistakenly thinks that I'm the one the stole his stand...and he shoots me in the back 'because that's the way we handle things in Texas!'

Even in Texas, you're likely going to go to jail and face a civil suit. If a LE officer discharges his weapon, there's a lengthy investigation into the circumstances. You don't think there would be something similar in this instance? You're a fool if you think you can just shoot someone and justify doing so over a petty property crime. Even in Texas.

That is why castle laws are restricted entirely to home invasion and immediate threats to person and property. There is no imminent threat when someone is walking away with your property. It's also why many people are (successfully) sued in states like Texas when they're taken the castle law to extremes, like Halfbake suggests. The issue of reasonable measures comes into play. Go ahead and shoot someone in the back, Halfbaked, and see if you don't have your ass sued off over it. Even in Texas. Get a grip. As satisfying as it might be for you to handle it yourself, vigilantism gets society nowhere over the long term.

Unless they're actually pointing a weapon at you, let law enforcement deal with it.

LittleChief 09-29-2011 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3854432)
Maybe you should get some different kinda work instead of stealing peoples stuff

Wow! You sound like so much like a ticked off teenager here.

I don't need to steal other peoples "stuff", as you put it. My wife and I are both retired Navy and now we both work at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. I was taught as a child that it was wrong to steal, the Navy sure as hell didn't tolerate thieves, and the type of men and women that work here at St. Jude aren't the type that steal from each other. I have zero tolerance for thieves and I also have a low tolerance for the incoherent babblings of disrespectful children.

That being said, maybe you should go find that missing chromosome. That might fix you right up.

Chuck7 09-29-2011 10:44 AM

I beleive the story to be fiction..LOL nobody is that nuts...it would have made the news for sure..I can't imagine getting hit by a broadhead in the back of the leg..lot's of blood...and i doubt if a person could even walk after being shot there..the knee would be gone..pain would be horrible.

a field point maybe..but not a broadhead

and if true..the story would not "Have made my day."
sounds like somebody had just got done watching the movie Deliverance.


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