Hi all, I'm a long time bowhunter who either always shot a 55-65lb compound either 3 blade fixed or Rage/Spitfire expandables. A few months ago I bough a recurve and have been practicing with it. I'm getting the hang of it and with another month or two of practice, I may have confidence to take it hunting. I didn't think I'd advance so fast and had no thoughts of hunting with it which is why I bought the 44lb bow basically to learn good technique first. If i do hunt with it, I will not take a shot past 15yards with it as my accuracy suffers greatly past that. I have a few areas where a 12yd shot is perfect. Anyway, I read for such a light poundage, a 2 blade fixed is best with a heavier aluminum arrow. Any suggestions for a solid 2 blade head? The Magnus Stinger seems to get really good reviews but I was wondering what else was out there for me to research. Thanks!

I know the experts know more than I but I used 3 blades with my 45 pound Bear recurve back in the 60s with no problems...I got tired of the insert coming out on the old Bear blades and just used a 3 bladed Satellite...A good 125gr like Thunderheads or Muzzys would work fine in my opinion...

Magnus stinger would be my choice. Another good choice would be Steel force.

I'd also look into the Easton AXIS or FMJ arrows instead of the larger diameter aluminum arrows. These two arrows have very small outside diameters that will also help maximize penetration. Install brass inserts in either of these two shafts to up your FOC to help the arrow recover better in flight and also help maximize penetration.

If you don't mind ordering your broadheads (assuming you might not have a traditional shop in your area) instead of picking them up at your local store then check out many of the "lesser known" l heads out there from companies like Alaska bowhunting suply, German Kinetics, Zwickey, etc...

Hmm, I'm in the market for new arrows and I was going to order this week. I heard heavier aluminum arrows would be best. I was looking at the XX75's. I currently have 2117's 400gr but Im being told 2117 is too heavy and I could be more accurate with a little lighter. 45lb bow 30" arrows, what size would you recommend? I never heard of those brass weights until i saw them the other day in a magazine. You said insert them to my FOC, what is FOC? Thanks for the help, Happy 4th!

I shot 2117s back in the day...Lighter arrows won't make you more accurate, they just shoot a little flatter...Shooting instinctive, it doesn't matter as your brain allows for that...Also, inside of 20-25 yards shooting flatter doesn't come into play...

Another Magnus fan here!

I haven't used the Magnus Stinger but my friend used the Buzz-cut last year and his doe only ran 15 yards.

Aluminum arrows are definitely heavier than all carbon arrows of the same spine. However, Easton FMJ arrows are a carbon core with an aluminum outer shell and weigh approximately the same as a comparable all aluminum arrow. The difference is that they have a much smaller outside diameter which will help increase penetration.

Also carbon recovers from bending at a much much faster rate than does aluminum. The carbon/carbon core arrow recovers quicker after it leaves the bow which translates to less speed robbing flexing as the arrows flys through the air. Same thing when the arrows impacts the target/animal. The carbon core arrow will flex less as it impacts so you get less side to side friction as the arrow is penetrating the hole in the animal.


All this being said, the 2117 is just fine for your set up.





FOC just stands for "front of center". It basically refers to where your arrows balance point is in relation to the actual measured center of the arrow. The more weight you have up front the higher the FOC balance is. An arrow that has a higher FOC percentage will penetrate better than a low FOC arrow because the weight up front pulls the rest of the arrow through the animal instead of relying on the entire weight of the shaft to push the arrow through.

Think of it like this. A high FOC arrow is a lot like a front wheel drive car and a low foc arrow is a lot like a rear wheel drive car. Punch the gas on a front wheel drive car and the car pretty much goes straight because it is being pulled instead of being pushed. Punch the gas on a rear wheel drive car and you have a real possibility of the car spinning out.

Great description of FOC. I made a mistake and said i was told my 2117 were too heavy....I meant too stiff and that affected accurancy.

Now this will be a dumb question but I saw brass weights that almost looked like washers that get screwed in almost along with your tip, is this what you're talking about? If not I'm assuming if I look, I'll find these type of inserts but how would one find the FOC? It sounds like the weight just goes in the front? One last question, if Im shooting a 400gr arrow, what would a good weight be after the added brass? thanks for the help

Magnus Buzzcut would be hard to beat!