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Old 07-31-2003, 07:56 AM
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I would be willing to bet that if these suits were some kind of medical device subjected to FDA aproval they would be incapable of getting it, the only way you can be " SCENT FREE" due to a suit would be if the following criteria were meet:

1. You would have to be able to don the suit without ever touching the exterior of it.

2. It would have to be capable of being completly sealed to the outside world from the inside.

3. It would have to recycle all of the air inside it otherwise you would suffocate.

4. The suit would have to be completly sealed from the outside world until ready for use and then it would have to be put on in a scent free enviroment.

5. Once you have used it there would have to be a way of removing it and storing it without ever exposing it to any scents.

6. You would have to put it on after you had exited your vehicle which means all the parephenalia needed to meet the aforementioned criteria would have to be taken into the field.

That is far from what would be truly needed to be truly scent free, but I know you know where I am coming from.

I am not saying that scent control is not important, what I am saying is they are far from being a cure all, heck I was watching one show where one of the pro' s wearing one flat out said he got winded by the deer! How could a pro get winded if he was wearing one of these suits?[]

I am also not saying that these suits will not help, but I will say that if you are playing the wind correctly the suit will not matter in 99.9% of the cases.
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Old 07-31-2003, 08:36 AM
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I have noticed that over time these suits loose their effectiveness even when
reactivated according to the directions. Ive had mine for two years and this past huntingseason I put mine away for good because it seemed to have lost its effectiveness. I believe these garments can be reactivated, to an extent, in a dryer
. But I firmly believe you cant fully reactivate them even the first time.
I know Michael Corrigan. He works as an Environmental Specialist with the same City Government as I do. He' s a very intelligent person and a very good hunter. I believe alot of what he says holds merit but I think his belief about the longevity of effectiveness is not accurate. From what ive seen through my use of these and my hunting buddies use, these garments loose their effectiveness after two seasons. I think he needs to do a few field tests before he calls them ineffective from the start.
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Old 07-31-2003, 08:40 AM
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Good points all Tazman ,
but I don' t recall any of the manufacturers saying that their suit would render a person scent free , only scent reduced . It ain' t possible to be scent free and they know it . I follow many of the criteria you posted while using mine , and even the pros get busted on occasion . Maybe the guy you saw moved or made a sound when he got busted . He may also have had skin exposed , or had a chili dog for breakfast . Playing the wind does help , but isn' t always possible . On the occasions when I' ve had deer downwind of me I haven' t been busted while wearing carbon , they always smelled me before I started wearing it . I practice very thorough scent control , so I have to believe that the suit had some effect . Since older bucks usually approach from downwind I consider carbon to be cheap insurance .
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:27 AM
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Your killin me Navy

I won' t buy another scent suit. I don' t have a lot of faith in the scent containment to begin with. The real reason I won' t buy them is they just aren' t put together real well. They just don' t hold up well to rough abuse. I' ve owned a few and they all fail in the same places. Crotch, pockets, zippers, buttons, seams, you name it.
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Old 07-31-2003, 10:18 AM
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I think they help some a lot but as some one else meant it was with confidence. I have found that confidence is sometimes up to 75% of the battle in hunting with regard to success, if you a scent eliminating suit makes you get that confidence buy one and use it! I read the aritcle and did some follow up research about carbon it has merit and is good information...but just that information not a rule or law. It won' t do anything to my decision to buy or not buy a carbon suit...which I don' t use BTW.

To those who say it works b/c last fall you had a deer downwind not spook, that happens to us who don' t wear these suit too. I practice scent control and hunt the wind, but have many deer not read the memo of wind direction/travel() and come the wrong way(on the downwind side) yet not spook[]. So would that mean I can market and sell my homebrew scent control system as " Field Tested and Proven Effective" ??? I think not, it just happens. BTW, I chose to not buy scent reduction suits because of the false expectations and marketing they did, slogan such as this turned me off all scent suit companys" Forget the wind just hunt!!!!!" [X(] That completely goes against everything I believe in, know, trust and would effect my confidence level in my abilities and knowledge of the sport. Basically don' t insult my intellegence about not paying attention to the wind...golden rule # 1 when hunting big bucks is use the wind to your advantage!(end of story)

But if you want to use the clothing and you feel it makes a difference, than I say it is worth it to you personally. Not b/c I believe the suit is reason but rather your confidence level is higher!!!! Same can be said about many things, camo, bows, etc...does it all really make you a better hunter...probably not but it makes you feel like your a better hunter = Success. Happiness & Satisfaction!!!!

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Old 07-31-2003, 10:20 AM
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I don' t recall any of the manufacturers saying that their suit would render a person scent free , only scent reduced .
The following are quotes from a Scent-Lok ad taken from the September issue of ' Deer and Deer Huntng' (between pages 80-81).

" ...the Supreme that will keep you warm and SCENT FREE in the coldest of weather."

" ...deer have the incredible ability to detect several different scents at the same time....The only truly effective strategy is SCENT ELIMINATION (WHICH OF COURSE IS EXACTLY WHAT SCENT-LOC DOES)."

Check out their logo...." Scent-Lok ODOR ELIMINATING TECHNOLOGY"

To me it is clear what the ads are saying. I know it is a marketing strategy, and obviously it is working, but I can' t bring myself to buy into their total scent elimination program. I' m not saying it doesn' t help, but I think for the money that these things cost, there are other pieces of equipment that are more important.

For example, lets say we were stuck on fantasy island and the only food we were going to get was to be from the deer we killed with our bows. Our host provided us with all of the equipment but said before we went to the woods, we would have to choose between a grunt tube (about $15.00) or a Carbon suit (about $200.00). I would choose the grunt tube everytime. Kind of a feeble example but I think you can catch my drift here.

I am pretty anal about scent control and all I can tell you is that I didn' t see a noticeable difference in the deer' s response to my scent when I quit wearing the carbon suit, even with the hooded face mask, (I even had the gloves).
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Old 07-31-2003, 11:15 AM
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The only thing that you can trust is that sometimes a deer that is upwind WILL smell you and sometimes a deer thats down wind will too. Hunt with the wind in your face and pray the breeze doesn`t swirl.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:02 PM
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Just expensive camo IMO !!
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:45 PM
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I think the guy' s article is pretty much a slam dunk.

You fellas that say the stuff works because a deer got within ' X' number of yards from you and didn' t know you were there.... How do you know that same deer wouldn' t have gotten exactly the same distance from you and not known you were there even if you' d NOT been wearing the stuff??

I had a deer nearly step on me once while I was leaning back against a tree taking a siesta. I' d been working fences all day in the hot sun, had taken a dip in the stock pond and was wearing sneakers that stunk so bad I was afraid they' d peel the chrome off my truck' s bumper. I don' t consider that proof that you can stink to high heaven and still get within petting distance of a buck though.



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