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....Heck if you can stalk close enough to shoot one with an X-bow you can do it with a Bow..
07-28-2003, 08:51 AM
#12
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: crossbow hunting question
Read the post Hawgz ,
the man said he was a bow hunter and just wanted a different tool for a given purpose .
bucksbuddy ,
crossbows may not be what you' re looking for , you' re not actually supposed to leave them cocked all the time because it can damage the prod . You can leave them cocked for short periods , which will allow you to stalk with it , but you' ll have to let it off occasionally . I' ll be using mine from a ground blind , so my movement will be hidden , but it won' t be " cocked and locked" until I' m certain that a deer is coming or already there .
For all you archers , picture drawing a 150 bow with no letoff , you' ll need a both hands and a foot in the stirrup to do it . Then load your arrow onto a metal rail through a small opening with the broadhead clanking on the rail and front sight mount . Then when you fire it you' ll hear how much louder it is than a bow since you can' t use much of the silencing and vibration toys available to bow shooters . Be prepared to give up about 10-30% of the KE you' re used to , and arrow and accessory choices too . And let' s not forget tuning if it' s a compound type , they have as much tuning to deal with as compound bows which is why many of the ones out there are straight or recurve .
It sounds to me like this fella loves a challenge ! [8D]
the man said he was a bow hunter and just wanted a different tool for a given purpose .
bucksbuddy ,
crossbows may not be what you' re looking for , you' re not actually supposed to leave them cocked all the time because it can damage the prod . You can leave them cocked for short periods , which will allow you to stalk with it , but you' ll have to let it off occasionally . I' ll be using mine from a ground blind , so my movement will be hidden , but it won' t be " cocked and locked" until I' m certain that a deer is coming or already there .
For all you archers , picture drawing a 150 bow with no letoff , you' ll need a both hands and a foot in the stirrup to do it . Then load your arrow onto a metal rail through a small opening with the broadhead clanking on the rail and front sight mount . Then when you fire it you' ll hear how much louder it is than a bow since you can' t use much of the silencing and vibration toys available to bow shooters . Be prepared to give up about 10-30% of the KE you' re used to , and arrow and accessory choices too . And let' s not forget tuning if it' s a compound type , they have as much tuning to deal with as compound bows which is why many of the ones out there are straight or recurve .
It sounds to me like this fella loves a challenge ! [8D]
07-28-2003, 05:47 PM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Hope Ontario Canada
Posts: 493
RE: crossbow hunting question
I know alot of crossbow users and none of them cock their crossbows when an animal is close by. They all get to their stand and cock them there or some even cock them at home. Here a crossbow is not loaded until there`s a bolt on the string. And I`ll take cocking a crossbow with a string puller over finger drawing a 70 lb. bow any day.
07-29-2003, 11:47 AM
#15
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: crossbow hunting question
Turk_Man ,
I' m guessing that your buddies who have xbows haven' t thoroughly read their owner' s manual . Mine plainly says " DO NOT LEAVE IN COCKED POSITION FOR EXTENDED PERIODS , PROD MAY BECOME DAMAGED BY EXCESSIVE TENSION , OR BREAK RESULTING IN DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY TO THE SHOOTER" . Granted , we have some very lawsuit wary manufacturers down here . We actually have warning labels on drink cans
But I have to think that they know their products better than we do , and I like to err to the conservative when it comes to weapons reccomendations .
I' m guessing that your buddies who have xbows haven' t thoroughly read their owner' s manual . Mine plainly says " DO NOT LEAVE IN COCKED POSITION FOR EXTENDED PERIODS , PROD MAY BECOME DAMAGED BY EXCESSIVE TENSION , OR BREAK RESULTING IN DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY TO THE SHOOTER" . Granted , we have some very lawsuit wary manufacturers down here . We actually have warning labels on drink cans
But I have to think that they know their products better than we do , and I like to err to the conservative when it comes to weapons reccomendations .
07-29-2003, 09:33 PM
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: rr 1 port hope ontario canada
Posts: 47
RE: crossbow hunting question
im the one turk man is talking about i leave the bow cocked for hours from daylight till lunch time .... never lost 1 foot of speed .... took this questions one the excalibur site and there are guys on there that leave em cocked from daylight till lunch and then again after lunch till dark so i dont know what the right ansewer is
07-30-2003, 04:23 AM
#18
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: crossbow hunting question
Fellas ,
all I know is what the manual for mine says . I can' t answer Lowly Darton' s question because I' m not familiar with his equipment , or the manufacturer' s reccomendations for it . That recurve sounds pretty tasty though , I' ll bet it' s fast . Mine is a Ranger with a straight fiberglass prod , which may explain why it says not to cock it for long periods . Fiberglass has a definite fatigue point .
bgunner ,
leave it cocked if it' s not hurting anything , but I' d check my manual to make sure . Personally I' d rather not have an angry xbow in my hands if it can be avoided . Do either or you have glass prods ?
all I know is what the manual for mine says . I can' t answer Lowly Darton' s question because I' m not familiar with his equipment , or the manufacturer' s reccomendations for it . That recurve sounds pretty tasty though , I' ll bet it' s fast . Mine is a Ranger with a straight fiberglass prod , which may explain why it says not to cock it for long periods . Fiberglass has a definite fatigue point .
bgunner ,
leave it cocked if it' s not hurting anything , but I' d check my manual to make sure . Personally I' d rather not have an angry xbow in my hands if it can be avoided . Do either or you have glass prods ?
07-30-2003, 08:00 AM
#19
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pa.
Posts: 78
RE: crossbow hunting question
Just pulled this from the Barnett website: http://www.barnettcrossbows.com/
" Q: How long can I keep my bow cocked?
A: It is safe to keep your bow cocked while you are hunting in a stationary position. FOR PERSONAL SAFETY REASONS, DO NOT STALK OR WALK TO AND FROM YOUR STAND WITH YOUR BOW COCKED. We do recommend that if you break from your hunt that you let the bow down to the un-cocked position by shooting a target arrow into a safe backstop. It would be a good practice to let the bow down every 4 hours or so."
They don' t specify compound or recurve? Don' t know if it matters?
Either way, the above is meant for Barnett Xbows only.
One things for sure, I' m never going to be stalking with an uncocked Xbow. I stalk with a loaded gun & both have safeties.
Alot of guys don' t like Xbows during archery season, guess I wouldn' t either.
Pa. allows ' em during later seasons. Fine with me & they sure are alot of fun.
Good Luck
John
" Q: How long can I keep my bow cocked?
A: It is safe to keep your bow cocked while you are hunting in a stationary position. FOR PERSONAL SAFETY REASONS, DO NOT STALK OR WALK TO AND FROM YOUR STAND WITH YOUR BOW COCKED. We do recommend that if you break from your hunt that you let the bow down to the un-cocked position by shooting a target arrow into a safe backstop. It would be a good practice to let the bow down every 4 hours or so."
They don' t specify compound or recurve? Don' t know if it matters?
Either way, the above is meant for Barnett Xbows only.
One things for sure, I' m never going to be stalking with an uncocked Xbow. I stalk with a loaded gun & both have safeties.
Alot of guys don' t like Xbows during archery season, guess I wouldn' t either.
Pa. allows ' em during later seasons. Fine with me & they sure are alot of fun.
Good Luck
John
07-30-2003, 08:41 AM
#20
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: crossbow hunting question
Thanks John ,
it more or less verified what I posted . That target arrow reccomendation sounds good too , it will really save my fingers , but I don' t think I' ll try it out in the field due to the noise it would make . Barnett' s reccomendations would apply to both types in their case , other manufacturers may have other thoughts on the subject . I believe I' ll leave mine uncocked until needed since I hunt from a ground blind . Thanks for the link .
it more or less verified what I posted . That target arrow reccomendation sounds good too , it will really save my fingers , but I don' t think I' ll try it out in the field due to the noise it would make . Barnett' s reccomendations would apply to both types in their case , other manufacturers may have other thoughts on the subject . I believe I' ll leave mine uncocked until needed since I hunt from a ground blind . Thanks for the link .