NAP Thunderhead Question
 

I bought a six pack of these heads off ebay just to try out. The guidelines say that I should use the UBAR however for these heads since I' m shooting carbons. I haven' t been able to find them on-line, but on the NAP websight, all they look like is a rubber o-ring. Is this all they are? Could I just use any o-ring that would fit in there, or should I stick with the actual UBAR' s from NAP?

Any suggestions? If I need to use those specific kinds, is there a place on-line that I can order them?

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http://shop.store.yahoo.com/archery-experts/ubars.html

Try here.The ubar is a metal dapter that makes up for the size difference of the carbon shaft and the broadhead base.It is different from the o ring used to snug the head and align the blades.The thunderhead is one of the best flying fixed blade heads.

CB

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thank ya.

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Jerry, I use t-head 125`s all the time with beman ISC 400 series carbons. They do not need UBAR`s. I have used the t-heads with other carbons that did though.

If you don`t find some UBAR`s, let me know, I`ll drop a handful in an envelope and send `em your way.

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Big... if you ain' t using em... [&:]

I' m shooting the ICS 340' s, so they are a bit smaller in diameter. I haven' t even tried shooting them yet, so I' m not sure if they need them or not. Maybe I' ll pull out the old broadhead target and fire a few through tonight to see how they fly.

Anybody have experience with the ICS 340' s and Thunderheads minus UBAR' s? What is the diameter difference between the 340' s and 400' s?

Thanks for the offer Big, I might take you up on that if you don' t mind. :)

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First let me say congrats on your nice Bear! Of course I still don' t think it' s fair you getting all that hunting in so early;):D As for the thunderheads and UBAR' s. In my testing the only time it matterd was when shooting the thunderheads into a hard object on a carbon arrow. The O-ring would get crushed making the blades loose and subject to fall out. By using the UBAR' s it makes a more secure fit and this helps the head retain the blades. For deer size critters you may never see a differnce as far as preformance on game goes, but for large animals like you hunt I would not consider using thunderheads on carbons without the UBAR' s. If you notice now NAP is now selling " thunderheads for carbon" packs with the UBAR' s included, their is a reason for this. I think you will find the thunders to be excellent in every way, sharper than your Muzzys, but not as easy to work with.

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I shoot Thunderhead 85' s, and I did alot of testing with the UBAR' s; shooting w/o them, though they still flew well accuracy and groups wernt near as good

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Thanks for the insight guys. 5er, in what way will they be harder to work with? Is that sighting in related, or putting them together out of the package? If there is a possibility of blade failure on hard impacts, then I won' t even consider using them without.

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Arctic, is their a chance of blade loss without them when using carbon arrows, yes, but I honestly don' t know how big. Plywood and Steel drums don' t really duplicate animals so it' s hard to say for sure. I personaly would not use them with out the UBAR' s. As for not as easy to work with, I mean when it comes to putting them together and if you like to line to line up the blades with the fletch. The O-rings are a pain in the butt. They are however a very well made head.

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5 shot, great point about hitting harder objects and crushing the o-ring. I have, on occasion pulled an arrow out of the ground after the fact, and found the blades a little loose. It never bothered me because that meant I had a critter on the ground. Hunting for some of the stuff Jerry gets to hunt, I guess it would be bestto put them on right off.

Whitetails cover 90% of my big game hunting, and my arrows slip through them like butter so I never thought of that.

Jerry, e-mail me an address and I will send some along.

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5er, thanks again for the info. A tear almost came to my eyes when I saw your last post. That is the first time that I can remember that you spelled arctic with two c' s! Have you been taking spelling lessons? [:o][>:];):D

Putting the Thunderheads together reminds me of the old Cabela' s Super Lazer Pro Mags that I used to use. They have a very small metal ring that bends when you tighten the broadhead onto the shaft, so it was very rare to get a good spin with your arrow if you had that head on. I noticed how the broadheads just fit how they are going to fit on the arrow. I don' t know if it helps any, but I usually work the broadheads through 20-30 shafts to have them line up with the fletchings. I' ll mark the arrow and the broadhead once I find a match, and if it shoots good, that broadhead and shaft are left as one.

Big, you have mail. Thanks a bunch, I really do appreciate your offer! The place that Cajun listed charges more for shipping than the UBAR' s, and the nearest pro shop is 500 miles south of me.

I think the next broadhead that I' m going to try is the 125 grain Rocky Mountain Snyper. :D

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Big, the e-mail you have on file got returned as undeliverable. Could you send me a blank e-mail to [email protected] and I' ll reply with the address?

Thanks.

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Jerry, I sent you an e-mail. I have no clue why it would have showed up as undeliverable?

Computers![X(]

If you don`t get it through this time....I will just put the UBAR`S in with the bones from the roast at Dave`s next week and send it all at once!;)

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No bones in those roasts buddy, they are full off the hind quarters, big, round and juicy, especially that moose roast. I didn' t realize 25 people were going to be there, I would of brought a couple more roasts if I would of known that. Make sure to get in quick, I know a few of those boys can eat a plate full, I watched em in March! [:o]

The only difference in the e-mail addresses were the caps in your first and last name. And the fact that I sent it straight from the hunting bbs, not from my e-mail.

Thanks again and have a great time at Daves!

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I have been on the " hooked' on spelling program for some time now:D it has really improve my smelling and helps me rite wors more betterest than I ever done beforee.:):D It' s almost like old times aint' it?:)

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Blast from the past! :D