Arrows $396.00 per DZ, stop the madness!!
 

Something occured to me this morning, the total price I am getting in a dozen arrows. I remember when you could get a dozen XX75 shafts for $34.00 and that included the inserts and nocks. Now I know with carbon arrows you don't need to replace them as often but the cost is just getting out of control. Here is a quick total on the cost of an arrow. I know there is some variation depending on your equipment but no matter how you look at it, it's getting rediculous. I shoot Carbon Express Maxima Hunters, price; 149.00 per dz. I shoot 100gr. Slick-Tricks, cost about $25 per three. I use NAP Shrink fletch, cost; $14.00 per six. If you add in a lighted nock, you are adding another $10.00 per arrow, which brings the grand total to about $33.00 per arrow or $396.00 per dozen! Where does it end? Oh well, that's my rant for a Monday.

Blessings.....Pastorjim

I agree,The price is getting crazy! But it isn't just arrows its pretty much all archery equipment.
I can remember when the price of the top of the line bow was under $400 now that will hardly get you into the sport!
And unlike buying a high $ firearm that basicly stays the same from year to year,if you want to keep up with the ever changing bow market you will pretty much have to buy a new one every year or so!
But we're all addicted and our suppliers know will be back for more!
And besides its one way to keep the wife from going shopping,just tell her ok as long as I can go to the bow shop!...lol

Jim,
Let me let YOU in on a little secret......a lot of that stuff is money thrown AWAY!!! Point being, I shoot arrows that I pay about $62/dozen, and the only thing I do is put a ST BH on the tip. And I've only lost TWO of them in 3 yrs, and both were my fault. I've heard guys say you have to pay $$$ for quality, but that just ain't true!!! Look at these couple pic's. I've done this 15 times, to these "cheap" arrows, and I just busted one this morning, not a RH, but REAL close.....And these were $62/dozen all total!!!!






If I'd taken pics, I could shot you 13 more just like 'em, shot with a total of 5 different bows. :wave: Now read my signature line and see what they are. And they're just on sale for $49.99/dozen, raw shafts RIGHT NOW!!!

I'm not CHEAP, I'm THRIFTY, or so I'd like to think.....:D

OH, I completely agree with you. It just seems we see the latest and greatest and it creeps up on you little by little until you are up to $33 per arrow. It will continue until WE stop the madness and decide we've had enough. After looking at my own numbers this morning, I am going to look at each and everything I purchase and at least stop the madness with my own stuff.

Blessings.....Pastorjim

Amen to that! I simply never started the madness in the first place. I agree with OHbowhunter. If it makes a guy happy to buy the most expensive gear he can get his hands on, more power to him, but it isn't necessary to be successful. Personally, I have better things to spend my money on. :s4:

Dang, glad I still shoot aluminum...

I still shoot aluminums, XX78's with a 3 - blade. I cut and fletch my own for about $10/ arrow or $120/dz. all set up with BH's. This arrow suits all of my bowhunting needs at a price I can live with. I don't go out of my way to search for the best deals though. I patronize a small, local family owned shop. I've been with them since 1983. It's fun.

still cheaper than blowing off 30 dollars of ammo a week. I mean, I bet you can get 500 shots/arrow or more.

Good field arrows are over 300$ per dozen bare shafts!!!

Exactly! If you look at cost per shot then you are talking pennies.

I shoot ACC's but do not get into all the fancy stuff.

Isn't that the definition of nostalgia? Remembering yesterdays prices with out regard to yesterdays wages. Besides, you choose how to spend you money right?????

You don't have to shoot Maxima hunters. You could shoot the same aluminum shafts you talked about which will run you $50 per dozen today. A savings of $100 right off the top.

First off there is no reason to buy a dozen broadheads to put on every single arrow. But in fairness to keep the comparison the same..... you could shoot Muzzy's for $34 a six pack. A savings of $32 per dozen.

You could use regular white wraps at $8 per dozen and regular vanes that you fletch yourself. A savings of about $18 per dozen.

If you are putting a lighted nock on every single arrow then you need help. You don't have to use lighted nocks any way. People got along with them for decades. I use a little piece of reflective automotive tape wraped around the shaft between the nock and feathers. Shine a flash light around and find your arrow.

So, the new grand total comes to $10.66 per arrow or $128 per dozen.

bigbulls,

I think you know the point he was trying to make. Anything to do with archery Is becoming reduculous with the prices. How can one deny this?

It doesn't have to be as I just illustrated.

Besides, it isn't really a fair comparison if you are comparing Easton Game getters to Maxima hunters now is it?

Use any on line inflation calculator.
A $750, 2010 Mathews, Bowtech, or Hoyt would have cost you $525 back in 1995.
Easton Game getters would have cost you $35 in 1995.
$150 maxima hunters would have cost you $105 in 1995.

Like I said. Remembering yesterdays prices with out regard to yesterdays wages.


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bigbulls, there is some validity to your point about yesterdays wages vs. yesterdays prices but the the whole point of the original thread was to point out how things quickly can get out of control with each new gadget that comes along. At one time, I did fletch my own arrows and still have my jojan multifletcher but I have a very bad tremor which has gotten worse over the years so it's just easier and less messy for me to use the shrink-fletch. I also at one time used Muzzy broadheads but the Slick-Tricks flew better out of my set-up so I switched. And really, comparitivly, $25.00 for three broadheads is less than most you will find now a days. I don't use lighted nocks but there are a lot of guys who do and those things can really jack up the price per arrow. I really do think that carbon arrows can be a better value in the long run because they last longer but you have to stay away from the more expensive models. When it's time for me to replace arrows, I am going to go with the Cabelas arrows someone suggested in their earlier post. I really do believe in buying the best you can afford right up front because it's more expensive overall to try to buy cheaper products and then "work" your way up to the more expensive things. That takes research on your part to find out what is the best, not necessarily the most expensive. I have been down that road myself and that was a life-lesson learned for me. But overall, archery prices are really beginning to get out of control and we need to decide what we really need and leave the rest to the rich guys. Thank you for your imput.

Blessings.....Pastorjim

bigbulls, by the way, where did you get that inflation calculator? That would be an interesting tool to apply to all sorts of things. For example, back in the mid-eighties, I purchased a Hoyt Prohunter, considered by many to be the best bow you could buy at that time. I paid $275.00 for it. I wonder what the price would be now and how it would compare, price-wise, with whatever is considered the best bow today. Let me know if you can. Thank you.

Blessings.....Pastorjim

Never mind, I just found one on google and that Prohunter that cost $275 in 1985 would now sell for $556 and change. I think that proves my point. There are not very many of what you would consider, top of the line bows, going for $556.00 today. And the $34.00 shafts would now sell for around $68.00,about where there at today. Therefore, it looks as if archery prices, at least in some areas, have outpaced inflation. Not to mention all the "extra" gadgets we buy that didn't even exist a few years ago.

Yeah, but you gotta also look at the technology in bows of the 80's compared to a 2010 compound.

Cast magnesium risers vs. CNC'd aluminum forgings, fast flight strings vs. 452X and the like, steel cables vs. synthetic cables with tunable yolks, fiber glass or wooden limbs vs. 5 or 6 layer laminated limbs, synchetic or cast wheels vs. CNC'd cams, stabilizers that were nothing more than a steel bar vs. all kinds of stuff today, stamped steel sights with painted brass sight pins vs. , CNC'd sight housings with fiber optic pins, etc...

I just wanted to show a little prespective in this thread before every one jumped on the high price band wagon.

So everything made today In the archery world Is rightfully priced then In your eyes?

Many things aren't... But IMO alot of bows are... With my recent interview for an engineering position for bear I got to see the actual material cost for a bear attack. It was everything they had in it... I also know dealer cost forthat bow as well courtesy of a gander mtn employee lol. Anyways, you all woul be astonished to see that tthey are not making as much money off each thing as you think... There is a ton more Econ involved but I don wanna get that far into it. Just understand that the 749$ bear attack probably makes bear less than you think per bow after assembly/advertising/marketing etc... They depend on volume. Just think of the salary of one engineer... They have 4... Lots of people gotta get paid to make this world turn so prices have only one way to go unfortunately...

The high cost of arrows makes the cost of my 340-Weatherby mag ammo look cheap.

As usual, someone feels the need to read more into a post than what was typed. I didn't say that any where in any of my posts now did I?

A gleaming example of an over priced archery item... anyone that pays $80 for titanium rage broadehads needs to have their heads examined.

I bought Easton xx75s (my size) on a sale clearance for $20 dz. fletched with inserts. I bought 4 Dz.. I bought my Broadheads on sale & they were half price ($34) so I have $4.50 per arrow. I've taken several animals (15 since I bought them)& other than 2 bent by pigs & 1 in practice & a Dz. I gave my kids I still have 2 dz. in their boxes & 9 I've been using.
I also have 2 other Dz. Eastons that are different size but shoot very well out of my Bows-well one had 11 fletched with no inserts (I bought inserts seperate) & the other dz. fletched with inserts. 23 Arrows for $35-still in the boxes. I guess i'm good for awhile...Oh, I also bought 2 Dz. Carbons "on sale" for $35 dz.(retail $65) & shot 4 of them 1 fall killing 1 Animal with them-didn't like them & gave to my son-he loves them & shot 2 animals with them so far.
I just am always "looking" at tackle on sale & when I see a "steal" get it if it fits someone in the family. There are 6 of us that Bowhunt.
I just can't justify even $10 per arrow for myself..Oh, I've been doing this so long I must have 10 dz. that need refletching-in fact, I did that with a Dz. Eastons I gave my Son-in-law last year when he started shooting. I have at least 300 nocks & probably 6-700 4" vanes & another 200 5" vanes & at least 3-400 4" feathers.
They work JUST FINE.....

Well some folks
 

depend on spending money instead of perfecting their talent.

The only talent some folks have, is to just spend a lot of money.

There can be no doubt that todays prices for ALL of our equipment borders in crazy!

Nothing to have $1,200+ in a decent bow rig these days!

I forget what I'm paying but I think I get a dozen carbon tech arrows made, cut to my length, ready to go for less than $100.

you're saying prices have changed in the last year or two?

And that same $1200 rig would have cost you
$950 in 2000...
$840 in 1995...
$720 in 1990...
$450 in 1980...

And you wouldn't have eny of the technology that is available today that makes todays bows so efficient, quiet, vibration free, and accurate.

Archery today is only expensive if you make it expensive. I still shoot the Reflex compound that I've had for 7 or 8 years. Total price of bow, stabilizer, rest and sight is about $270. I shoot xx78 with 4 blade muzzys, about $100. Add in misc. things like release, limbsavers, string silencers, etc. and I have about $420-430 into the package. And it is a very solid bow with solid components that has never let me down. Price per shot over the years to now has to be fractions of a penny.

With all of todays gadgets, people's idea of a "decent bow setup" has gotten extremely skewed. The majority of people won't even look at a basic $30 sight or $30 rest like I have. It's a $150+sight or nothing. Then when these guys have their bow all set up and have shot it for a couple of years, they sell it for very little return.
When I watch people with their $1500 bows and $300 arrows, I just laugh to myself. I don't even look at the broadhead section of the cabelas catalog anymore. $40 for 3 broadheads, what are these companies thinking.

Oh well, I'm getting more and more into my traditional stuff and in a couple years probably won't hunt with a compound at all. But I'll always keep my cheap, huge by todays standards and accurate compound rig.

I watch for my carbon arrows to go on sale then I buy several of them to save money,I don't shoot an arrow in the same target space/circle so I don't damage/destroy another arrow and I have 2 different kind of broadheads for hunting....3 mechanical and 3 fixed that I have aquired over the past 5 years.I'm not cheap...just financially challenged! ;)

NOT to mention releases are out of this world:biggrin:
Sorry Schultzy I had too!!!

Expensive & Accurate arrows are almost an oxy-moron.

Meaning - Aren't we trying to hit a 4" target at a given yardage -
so the numbers on paper look better than most peoples target's - why is this? I would gather its called ability. Put a deer in front of anyone and try to robin hood the the tick on a deers back they will cave and the 1/2" of accuracy goes down the tube?

Carbon's Faster... My buddy has killed more deer than most, with his 1982 Hoyt @ a lightning fast 175/second (I can run faster than his flipin arrow)

Marketing people marketing, but you can jump on the carbon express wagon if you want, I'll use my AFFORDABLE XX75 and place them in my "hunting quiver" after I qualified the BH for repeatability, never to be used except to kill the animal I choose too:)

I totally agree Ed... I'd conclude that most will shoot nowhere near to the potential of their setups for various form and inconsistancies.

No one is forcing you to pay that much for arrows.