Bowtech Destroyer
 

I want opinions on this bow. i am a Bowtech man and i went to shoot this bow the other day with great anticipation and honestly i was a little let down.

I did not like the grip...it felt funny in my hand.

the Bow had vibration after the shot not alot but a little..

i want to hear from all those who have shot this bow and liked it or did not like it. tell me what it is that you though about it.

cant find any to shoot around here. shot the Z7 and was impressed want to shoot the destroyer and FB attack. i think they could be the top bows of 2010

There are many reviews on the Web. I really was impressed with the Bow. I spent a day at our local shop shooting the Destroyer 350 and watching several others shoot it as well.

Everyone I saw shoot it that day was impressed. This area has a huge amount of devote Tribute and Ally shooters. I know at the time I was at the shop they had only had the Destroyer for a few days and there was already several of the Tribute & Ally shooters hanging them up and placing a Destroyer on order.

One thing I might mention. If a Bow you shoot (any bow) is not tuned correctly, and setup to fit you it may very well give you a false impression of the bow. In some cases it can be extreme.

Good luck in your decision!!:happy0001:

I have a Destroyer 350 on order and hope to order 1 or 2 340's of varying colors:D

Dan

thanks meanv2,

i really respect your opinion. i think you are right the bow was bare with only a rest on it. the draw was flawless and i think i can get used to the rest. i think that i can get used to it... i will be seriously considering buying it.

Are you sure the bow you shot was tuned. I know a lot of archery shops just slap a rest on a bow for customers to shoot, but if they have not at least paper tuned it to get it close, it was cause some vibrations that normally would not be there.

As far as the grip goes, that is just a personal feel thing. Myself, I have never picked up a Mathews and liked the grip. I might have liked the way it shot, but the grips always felt bulky to me.

BTW, grip might be the number one factor when people say they like the way a bow "feels". Grip is one reason why people become brand loyal. For instance, I love the way a Hoyt "feels". I am not saying they shot better than any other bow, but I just love the say they fit in my hand. A very personal thing that will and should be different for everyone.

Good point about the grip kickin. The ONLY part you touch on a bow is the grip, and if that doesn't feel right, I guess the whole rest of the bow won't feel right either. Mathews grips to me feel like i'm grabbing a 2X4, whereas Bowtech feels real nice to me, but I like a super thin grip. Since grip is such a HUGE part of the overall feel of a bow, I wonder what the reason is that more companies don't offer several grip options with their bows. Its simple to change a grip, just a screw, and it would be equally easy to ship a $1000 bow with three different grip options.

I shot my pro shop owners 350 and man I thought it was sweet! Passed all my expectations for a speed bow! I however do not care for the grip to much but love the bow!

i have a big objection to buying this bow right now and this post will probly make people mad but 1 a friend of mine overlooks sales and said the first few shipments of limbs were defective and after not solving the problem they used the ones they thought were good and started putting them together and alot of them were blowing up after assembly,they sent a bunch out and when dealers were opening up the boxes the bows were blown up and they were getting tons back,2nd they were braggin about getting limbs cheaper than anyone at the trade show for $7 something a limb.my friend gets bowtechs free and won't shhot the dystroyer I would just say to wait a few years before trying this let them work out the bugs first before you spend your hard earned money.

Good reviews everyone. I was at the shop the other day and the dealer had 2 destroyers but I didn't have enough time to shoot one. The dealer did tell me he liked the destoyer way better than the 82nd though. Other than that i will just have to wait until I shoot one...

Sorry blacktail but you've been told an untruth. I'm betting your not willing to name your friend as I've met everyone that "overlooks" sales at the ATA and they are very proud of the Destroyer. There has been 1 bow returned for warranty work on the limbs and the owner of said bow dropped the bow out of a treestand. Matt at BowTech talked personally with said person.

When they first went out, only demo bows went out and not one "blew" up.

And, the Destroyer limbs are not cheap, they are some of if not the strongest on the market. They are using expensive glass in the limbs so $7 a limb is a joke. You either need to come clean or have a serious talk with your "friend". :biggrin:

I am all about making these thieving companies do the right thing, but even I have a hard time buying this. The legal implecatons alone would be a bowtech nightmare.

So you say you live in bowtech's hometown and know several who work there?

yes i live in a town where bowtech is manufactured and have family and many friend who works there to and I use to be all for bowtech,one thing I have to say about bowtech is they are probly one of the smoothest bows I have ever shot,but I have seen more bowtech problems than success.i have owned a allegence,a liberty,and an 82nd airborne,and a diamond marque,and my wife has had two.I finally gave up bowtech after a few seasons ago I was shooting the day before my elk hunt and my limb cracked from top to bottom,this ruined my fisrt week of the hunt,this was the 3rd set of limbs in one year.I have replaced limbs on all the bowtechs I have ever owned.I wish they would up the quality of there bows becouse i do love the way they shoot but I won't shoot a bow I can't trust.

oh yeah they are finally getting hammered for the limb defects to or at least starting to own up to it.I guess there was a big deal over one of the reps getting hurt by a busted limb If you look up bowtech limbs on google to there is a bunch of info on how bad they are about buying cheap limbs.heres the recal on the general I belive,remember they get all there limbs from the same place,so...... http://www.bowtecharchery.com/latest...on-update.html

What is your friends name that overlooks sales and what are your family and friends names that work there?

Feel free to PM them to me, as well as your name too if you don't mind...

look I obviously can't say names I don't want to get nobody in trouble I am not going to put my family or friend jobs on the line for a post on the net

That's why I asked you to PM them to me. I was just curious to see if I knew any of them...

And what's it gonna hurt to put your name out there? Most of us do...

I just am not going to risk peoples jobs I have no clue who you are and do not no if you are involved with bowtech it's just respect for these people who work there.if you know the same people you would have heard the same

I just several days with all the reps, management, sales and engineer from BowTech and I'm sorry blacktail4ever, some of what your saying simply isn't true.

I live in eugene oregon where bowtech is located this is a small town where we all know eachother.I know more people that work there than I can count.i am always talking to these people daily and I hear everything that goes on.i probly know more than you think.i am sure you are hearing what they want you to and not what is really going on in the factory.its a buissness and these people are there to sell to you

I worked for them for 6 1/2 years and was invloved with them pretty much since their inception. I know every single person in the front office, most in production, most in WaterDog and everyone in the Pro Shop. Heck, many of the front office people have graciously allowed me to stay at their house when I was out there on my semi annual visits; including John and Jerid Strasheim if you know them, or perhaps they are your family...

What your saying just doesn't hold water with me. I've done hundreds of shows for them since 2000 and had several thousand people shoot bows at every single one of the events... And other than an occasional dry fire, there were no problems (other than a couple string derails as a result of the dry fire's) with limbs, cams, etc. I've also owned quite a few Bowtech's of my own and have never had a single problem.

So now you know a little bit about myself, let's learn a little bit about you.

See here's where I always throw my arms in the air. How is it possible that every corp staff shooter never had the first issue with any of thier bows, and I have had 2 cracked limbs? I have had cam lean so bad, it almost rubbed thru a cable.

Am I really that unlucky? And so has many on this forum. Many very respected folks. But every staff shooter that posts on here has had zero.

You do the math Pat. And everyone on this page do the math.

And come on, would you put a friends job in jeparody just to impress a bunch of people on the internet?

As I said I only have one MAJOR problem with bowtech and that is the limbs.I really wish they would improve them becouse if they did I would shoot bowtech.I love the way they shoot I just don't trust the limbs.they always had new limbs on my bows everytime they broke but i am not losing out on one more day of hunting due to cheap limbs.its bad when I can get a bowtech for darn near free and i spend a grand on a mathews.I had this whole conversation with the someone at the local pro shop and they had even heard a rep bragging how they got limbs cheaper than anyone in the industry at the ata show last week.thats not nothing to brag about.Just look under any search engine for bowtech limbs and look at all the complants of cracked and defective limbs.There is a problem here and I don't feel it's right

as I have said before i have owned a few bowtechs,between me and my wife at least a half dozen and every one of them have had the limbs replaced on one three times.If I had to replace my bow every time i had a limb break I would have spent about ten grand in 3 years and had nothing to show for it.I don't make a ton of money so when I buy a bow i want it to last.I would hate to see a young kid spend his whole summers work on this bow to end up cracking a limb after a month or two.

heres a prime example type in under google
bowtech blew up or bowtech limbs or heck bowtech and look at the results
then replace bowtech with mathews,(mathews blew up,mathews limbs,ect.)

See how many complants bowtech has compare that to any other brand

Thousands of people having the same problem.this is more than just an error.I get there is always a bad apple but this is rediculous

BC,

I'm telling my personal experiences and what others say are their stories, true or not, we'll never know I guess...

So in a single word reply yes or no, are you saying I'm not telling the truth about my personal experiences?

Let me also go on to say that I have seen and repaired failures on BowTech bows. Some were the fault of the materials, some were the fault of the users...

One for instance on user error for lack of a better term...

In 2006 I had a guy with a 2005 Allegiance that had both cams bend on him while he was shooting the course at the Erie, PA IBO. He came to the booth, ticked off, swearing, threatening to get drunk and drive home and told me the bow was junk...

He asks me if the bow could be fixed under warranty and at first I wasn't sure but then I look the bow over and had to tell him no...

Why? Because the bow was not even close to being as it was when it left the factory...

Why? Because he personally stripped the finish off of the riser and cams himself then he anodized the riser and buffer polished the cams himself...

Why would this void the warranty? Because he used oven cleaner to strip the anodizing from the cams and the film dip from the riser. It was diagnosed that the cams were overheated from the over cleaner which took the temper out of them.

In the end I put brand new cams on it putting all of the cam spacers back where they "belonged" and told him it would probably be best if he not mess with it as I had it set back to factory specs. Then he was happy and went on his way...

And yes, I've also had to change some limbs over the years. I had to keep records of any and all repairs and from 2000-2009 I changed 9 sets of limbs...And as I said earlier, I attended hundreds of events in that time frame.

And no, I wouldn't want my friends to lose their jobs but you have to ask yourself... Should these people be selling or making products available to people if they don't believe in them?

As a matter of fact, I consider many of the people out there not only good friends but extended family...

So I ask, if they're his family & friends, why come on here and put their jobs in jeopardy? He could have just said he heard it from people but he insisted that it was him family and friends saying this... Had it not been for that I wouldn't have quesitoned it...

I asked him to PM the names to me so it wouldn't be public knowledge and to see who he knows that works there... Just curious is all...

as you said you worked at bowtech for 6 1/2 years and know many of the uppers and still consider them extended family I am not going to put peoples names out there for that reason.how easy would it be for you to tell someone whats being said outside closed doors and for them to loose there jobs over it.It needs to be known whats going on.And as far as you only seeing 9 sets of limbs in 9 years blow up well I had at least 9 sets personally break on me and that is all from the factory no madifications done to the bow after that period,I still have all three of my mathews and my old pse gamegetter and nothing has ever gone wrong with them.

Blacktail.....

I'd trust Bowtechshooter (Pat) to exchange info. with. But, you don't know him. Pat is, however, a straight-shooter.

ANYONE else, here (asking for your info)?

HELL NO!

You don't owe these people anything.....and your word's (this is the internet) as good as anyone else's....no matter what mfr. or "staff" word is in their signature.

Blacktail I see you are at it Again. Your history of posts against BowTechs is there for all to see. No problem with posting a true failure or problem. As all bow companies will have one now and then.

The quality of bows today is really amazing, and BowTech is No different than any others and better than most. I've owned more than a dozen different brands, and 70 to 80 bows in 40 plus years of slingin' arrows. I only had one bow that had a problem and it was Not a BowTech.

I bought my first BowTech in 03 and have owned over 15 since. I have never had the first problem with any of mine. I have hunted with my BowTechs from a sultry 90 degrees in Southern IL to temps out west thay were 25 below zero. I never doubted my Bows ability to get the job done and perform in extreme conditions for a minute.

You will find when it comes to Bashing BowTech it's always the same handful of guys on any given forum. BowTech has grown to what they are today by producing Top Quality Bows that are on the cutting edge of technology.

The Destroyer is No exception!! The Hardcore limbs are the most advanced limbs currently made and the ones I know of that have been dry fired came through with No failures.

Dan

I don't believe blacktail4ever at all. I have a diamond victory that is more than 5 years old and i have never had a single problem with the bow. ANd i have tons of friends and two brothers who own bowtechs and not one of them ever had a problem with their bows either. I think this guy is really unlucky or is lying...

I have seen actual pics where this bow has issues with scratches on the limbs and strings being deployed. I even saw pics where a guy got a new 350 destroyer and it had 340 on one limb, and 350 on the other. The pics were removed from this site, but they are still over on AT.

Well, maybe I am unlucky. Out of all the staff, you are the one I still have confidense in. I notice you generally stay out of the "spin", and usually do not belittle or demean "customers". And I thank you for that. Your integrity is safe with me.

But you are very close to these people. Seems like personally and professionally. And sometimes that makes people see things in a different light. For instance the father the sideline watching his son not getting any gametime, and he beleives his son is the next Joe Montana. Rest of us have a different take. I mean the father truely believes his son is that good.

After reading all these bowtech threads I sure am glad I own a HOYT
:rock:

I understand where you are coming from but if there were as many bows blowing up as blacktail4ever suggests there would be a whole lot more people than just him talking about. The General actually did have a problem and, even when the proBowtech folks tried to blow it off as a non-issue it was still a problem and eventually had to be addressed. If limbs were blowing up left and right, like blacktail4ever suggests, the proBowtech folks wouldn't be able to suppress that either.

The fact of the matter is, if you can't man up and stand behind your claims with your real name and not some internet made up name then how credible can a person be? At least all of the proBowtech folks make claims behind their real names and you can decide what you think of their claims based on your knowledge of them. How can you decide what you think of a product based on some unamed person's claims?

Some bows have problems, no one denies that and you may very well have a lemon unfortunately but, with the huge volume out on the market you have to consider the percentage. Of course you will hear about bad experiences the most, people with bad experiences with any product tend to squeak the loudest when they do not feel they have been treated fairly. Doesn't mean they haven't been treated fairly, just means they think they haven't.

I can guarantee that what is said here is nothing more than a straight lie.
I also live in Eugene and work for Bowtech (in the sales department) and will absolutely stake my reputation and JOB on the fact that what you are saying is 100% nonsense......every last bit of it from the limbs being bad, to bows blowing up to them being cheap. Are you kidding me?
The Hardcore limb might be the most expensive well made bow limbs on the market in both materials and cost of construction.

I will gladly sign my name to this and if you want to discuss it further take a spin on over to the factory and ask for me.....
Also do you realize that there are potentially very real legal ramifications for what you are doing?

Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech

I agree. I think the internet has changed the way companies must do business. Kinda like on the beltway. 90% of the drivers could be driving fine and reasonable. 5% pushing it. But those 5% radical ones make it seem like commute hell.

I think the whole general thing is what left a bad taste in my mouth. Anybody that knows me knows I was big bowtech fanboy until that. Then I still had much love for em. But then I was hit with a rash of problems. Still had love for em. Understand in mfg enviroment things happen. Then I sent a bow back for repair. Came back worse than it left 3 months later.

And I still haven't publically came out and explained the event. Because I still think thier designs are revolutionary. Extremely innovative.

ok so this may now be a bow bash going on here which was not my intention again.my personal problem is my deal with them I really don't care what other people try to say.I have had serious problems with the bows and I have been very dissapointed by that.As I said before I would love to shoot a bowtech again becouse i love thwe way they shoot.they are the smoothest bow I have shot in a long time,but I have had enuf limbs break on me to not want to shoot them.I can get a bowtech for a third of the price of my mathews but i have been paying more becouse my confidence is not there anymore.I just want this issue out there so it can be noticed by bowtech staff and something be done about it.I know there is a problem.It is no secret.you know we were all bowtech fans here when they came and opened here,but after the majority of us have had serious problems I only know a handful of bowtech shooters now.it seems every time I punch in bowtech on the search engine all it is is stories how another bowtech blew up.I am not the only one and I can't say that enuf.You can call me a lier but you cab't call the thousands of people who post daily on this problem

blacktail, did you skip over this part?

ok matt/pa I can clear any day you want to meet up over at the shop in eugene and we can go over this in person.Just understand I will be upset if I am denied any answers to what queations i may have.I will not expect unreasonable requests but I will want to be taken seriously.

With all the avenues you allege you have at the factory supplying you with "good" info re: problems, why do you need to search the net looking for problems?

I am always comparing bows and whats new with the industries, the internet is a good way to do that.alot of times you find out alot more about manufacturer defects than you will anywhere else.Have you ever compared or looked for defects anywhere besides the manufacturer.thats kinda why people put post up here in the first place to ask questions and see what the average consumer has to say.Seems I am only being critisized by bowtech shooters and pro staff.I can understand that.Me I am pretty open to any brand as long as the quality is up to par.Yet at work there is a guy who bowtech sponsors and he is just like you guys bowtech is his god and he will not shoot nothing else,yet he has seen all my bows crack limbs right along with his crackin limbs,like I said if it were not for the limb problems I have had I would be shooting a bowtech right now.you can't say it's my fault Todd at bowtech always had my bows set up for me in the factory and I never miss handled my bow or dry fired it.