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Horacio 12-09-2009 10:45 AM

Eh, doesn't say how many hunters (though I guess I could count the number of dudes in the pic) or how large an area they covered...or what the population was like before.

Still, that's pretty insane and to me....way overboard.

I'm not really into the whole scientific management stuff but....part of my family has a portion of our old ranch and has carefully managed their deer within a high fence and has ...not necassarily superior bucks but more big deer.

But...I'd hate to be all 'shoot this one, DON'T shoot that one, he's okay, I'll bend the rules for you but not you, blah, blah'. The game camera pics from my place where we practice common sense management indicate that we have some nice deer.

BvrHunter 12-09-2009 10:45 AM

Well if that was a bust by the DNR... thats the happiest group of guys after being busted i've ever seen!!!! Almost everyone with out a badge on is smiling....

bowfly 12-09-2009 10:46 AM

the investigation continues, eh? well, it looks like the three individuals to the far right in the top picture are pretty cheery and happy

ABarOfSoap 12-09-2009 11:58 AM

If those are cull bucks why were there 30 of them, shouldent you only be a cupple a season?

sportsman22 12-09-2009 12:26 PM

Well cull, in terms of dairy cattle, means to terminate from the population. They must have a specific standard for their bucks and got rid of some.

salukipv1 12-09-2009 12:34 PM

Was their goal to reduce #s of deer? you can shoot all the bucks you want and does will still get bred, just means less bucks will be doing the majority of the breeding.

Taking 30 does would reduce overall numbers way more than taking 30 bucks IMO.

solocamcan 12-09-2009 01:52 PM

Something isnt right, why is EVERYONE smiling? Would you be smiling, next to DNR knowing that fines and possible loss of guns, ATV's, trucks, and hunting rights for a few years is highly likely?

bigtim6656 12-09-2009 05:47 PM

No crap man. I was watching a QDMA show on outdoor channel. They talked about this subject. The took a few pics of deer with bad racks and asked the guys on the show is they would cull them. Most said yes. They showed the pics from the next season and 80% of them where trophy deer. They asked would you cull them in this pic. Most said no but i would shoot and stuff them. :busted:
Now i would shoot any of them. But i am just hungry.

Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 3524423)
If those are cull bucks (whatever that term means, I know somehow inferior to the herd) then I'd love to see what they got wlaking around that they say is good.

What would be considered a cull buck. 2.5 or 3.5 year old deer with an 8pt rack at 16 inches??? When don't have crytsal balls to know how well they will grow in 2 years. Or do you need to wait until they get up to 6.5 or 7.5 years old on their way down.

Sometimes I thik QDM is getting a bit outta hand.


bigtim6656 12-09-2009 05:49 PM

I would say it was just a hunt and cull. The Cos and dnr guy are smiling ear to ear.

Originally Posted by solocamcan (Post 3524816)
Something isnt right, why is EVERYONE smiling? Would you be smiling, next to DNR knowing that fines and possible loss of guns, ATV's, trucks, and hunting rights for a few years is highly likely?


glew22 12-10-2009 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 3524423)
If those are cull bucks (whatever that term means, I know somehow inferior to the herd) then I'd love to see what they got wlaking around that they say is good.

What would be considered a cull buck. 2.5 or 3.5 year old deer with an 8pt rack at 16 inches??? When don't have crytsal balls to know how well they will grow in 2 years. Or do you need to wait until they get up to 6.5 or 7.5 years old on their way down.

Sometimes I thik QDM is getting a bit outta hand.

Do not get this confused with QDM. In most areas, QDMA does not promote harvesting "cull" bucks, because by maturity these bucks typically catch up.

QDM is about 2 things: harvesting an adequate number of female deer to balance the herd with the available habitat, and balancing the buck age structure so the herd contains bucks in all age classes (yearling, immature 2.5-3.5, and mature 4.5).

The benefits are immense. QDMA promotes passing of all yearing and preferably 2.5s as well. Anything above and beyond that is getting closer to trophy management by definition.

I may be going out on a limb here because I am not familair with the habitat and size of the property these bucks were taken on. However, QDMA would never support decimating the entire buck segment of the population. The social stress that would subsequently occur would result in: a longer breeding season, reduced antler growth due to breeding related stress, and late born fawns.


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