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#2
Im an API man myself also, but I have seen an this forum that yhey are out of busimess, so I guess Ill be switching to Summit climbers. They are very popular with many people and seem to work well. Id like to know how well the cable stayes in place while you are climbing.
#3
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 216
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From: Clarendon NC USA
I think the Summits are " Very Good" ...I use a Summit " Viper" climber......It' s light and quiet. It goes on the tree in the dark very well....The stand is rock solid.....I can stand any where on the platform (on the corners or any where) and feel no give. The grips are outstanding......I' ve not used one of their accesory bags but plan to this season. I' ve never used an API, and never plan to as long as I can keep my Summit......Factory service and concern for their customers can' t be beat.......
#4
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 259
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From: paragould AR USA
Summit is a great stand......Easy to use and put on a tree....But for you API guy' s...Your in luck API will sell stands....Only to Bass Pro and Cabela' s.....But I figure only till their stock pile last
#5
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 656
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From: Greenville SC USA
I own a Summit Cobra, and API Bowhunters Grand Slam, so I' m not " taking pride" in a product that I bought publically and hate to say I spent money on a worthless product! I' m a bow only hunter and take my stuff seriously. Here is my review for what it' s worth between the two:
API vs Summit (models I own)
chain vs cable: no difference, both are very stable and lock on solid
pins vs latch: I hate aligning holes for pins and you have to tie pins to stand to not drop. Summit: hands down in this category for setup/tear down during darkness. Latches are so easy.
Backpacking straps, foot straps, and upper stabilzer strap:
API has (on my last years version) the d-ring push-strap- loosen strap type of straps to tighten (except the stabilizer). The stabilizer strap has a heavy buckle assy that seem to always hit something metallic and make a " clang" .
Summits have the easy pull to tighten strap' s that lock with spring loaded buckles. Basically, pull once and forget. Very easy.
Packing:
API has a somewhat different method of turning the seat portion 90 degress and placing into the bottom half. Ingenuity with stabilizer strap will allow cinching of both halves together to prevent clang while walking to/from stand. And will prevent using the 3 straps included with the awful push/pull buckles.
Summit is one-way only I believe and is fitted for each other. Wrap the stab strap around both halves, cinch, and done. (I can' t speak for the new folding models)
API has better padded arm rest' s with the velcro camo covers.
Summit uses zipties that you need to make sure they are positioned correctly or they can " scratch" when standing at the moment of truth. They need to be trimmed well.
API' s upper-half arm rest' s are a little longer which makes a good thing to hang your bow from. I apply felt type padding on the lower half to protect the bow string from rubbing the metal portion. And they provide a nifty ditty bag that is handy.
Seats:
I find both brands are comfortable. Between the old inflatable and new foam seats in the Summits, I prefer the inflatable because they move out the way better when standing.
Price is near the same.
I did have a Summit Viper that the weld looked like it was coming apart. I called Summit and with no questions asked, they sent me a new stand and provided a pre-paid shipping ticket to send the old back. No questions asked. I asked them to send me a Cobra instead and they did. I didn' t like the front bar anyway!
That is all!
API vs Summit (models I own)
chain vs cable: no difference, both are very stable and lock on solid
pins vs latch: I hate aligning holes for pins and you have to tie pins to stand to not drop. Summit: hands down in this category for setup/tear down during darkness. Latches are so easy.
Backpacking straps, foot straps, and upper stabilzer strap:
API has (on my last years version) the d-ring push-strap- loosen strap type of straps to tighten (except the stabilizer). The stabilizer strap has a heavy buckle assy that seem to always hit something metallic and make a " clang" .
Summits have the easy pull to tighten strap' s that lock with spring loaded buckles. Basically, pull once and forget. Very easy.
Packing:
API has a somewhat different method of turning the seat portion 90 degress and placing into the bottom half. Ingenuity with stabilizer strap will allow cinching of both halves together to prevent clang while walking to/from stand. And will prevent using the 3 straps included with the awful push/pull buckles.
Summit is one-way only I believe and is fitted for each other. Wrap the stab strap around both halves, cinch, and done. (I can' t speak for the new folding models)
API has better padded arm rest' s with the velcro camo covers.
Summit uses zipties that you need to make sure they are positioned correctly or they can " scratch" when standing at the moment of truth. They need to be trimmed well.
API' s upper-half arm rest' s are a little longer which makes a good thing to hang your bow from. I apply felt type padding on the lower half to protect the bow string from rubbing the metal portion. And they provide a nifty ditty bag that is handy.
Seats:
I find both brands are comfortable. Between the old inflatable and new foam seats in the Summits, I prefer the inflatable because they move out the way better when standing.
Price is near the same.
I did have a Summit Viper that the weld looked like it was coming apart. I called Summit and with no questions asked, they sent me a new stand and provided a pre-paid shipping ticket to send the old back. No questions asked. I asked them to send me a Cobra instead and they did. I didn' t like the front bar anyway!
That is all!
#8
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,978
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From: Vinton VA
I have tried a lot of differnt stands over the years and when My money gets spent it goes on the Summit. They are very queit, stable, comfortable and easy to use. API makes/made a good product but I think the Summit line is just a notch above.
#9
Sumit stands are not good they are GREAT!!! I love my Cobra XLS, it is lite, easily packed, The cable is so easy to use and grips the tree great. After you put some weight on the stand the cable sort of forms to the tree. Their stands are very quiet and quick and quiet to set up. The Heck on API Go with any of the Summit Models you won' t be dissapointed.
#10
They seem to receive rave reviews in just about every archery forum that I visit so I would think that they are a high quality stand. I have an API Bowhunter that I am rather fond of but I am considering getting a Summit model to have as well.
I did see that API now has a cable model as well.
I did see that API now has a cable model as well.


