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burlyman 11-01-2009 03:53 PM

**UPDATE** wounded deer controversy
 
listen up guys-i have some points i would like to share

*im not trying to defend my actions or change peoples minds-please just read

1-I spoke to many people and the advice was VARIED. i called my local DEC office and they said LET THE DEER SIT OVER NIGHT and go back the next day

2-when i first shot the deer, he went right down-kicked for a bit and then was out. when i came back an hour later, he picked his head up. he was not kicking and screaming and crawling away. i left beacause i didnt want to push him away

3-i recovered the deer today and he was in fine shape. i brought him home and will now be able to process him correctly

4-i spoke to several experienced hunters who said they have taken bad shots, tried to collect the deer to quick and pushed it away never to be seen again. i did not want to do that

5 - as i mentioned, this is my first year bowhunting (i have hunted gun for awhile) i got my bow in the spring, practiced 3-5 times a week until now, entered 3D practice shoots all summer, did my scouting in the woods, and did everything else to prepare correctly.

6- hunting is a lifelong process. i talk to guys who have 50+ yrs hunting and still learn new things every time they walk in the woods.

i was in a difficult situation and did what i felt was right. was it the best case scenario- maybe not, but my deer is well hanging in my yard. i appreciate those who did not jump on me. for those who did, please realize that there are few absolutes in any situation. i will use this experience to grow and become a better bowhunter. thanks

DeBauche11 11-01-2009 03:56 PM

Put the deer out of its pain! you owe it to the animal to at least do that. Do whatever you have to, go back there and have your buddy walk on the front side of the deer to distract him and then walk up behind him and stab him with your buck knife in the ribs.

JakeInMa 11-01-2009 03:56 PM

Go back out there now and put him down! You can't let him suffer all night long and you should have more respect for him than to be throwing sticks at him. Go back with your buddy and be prepared to either slit it's throat or heart it. It's not any fun, but it has to be done! You owe it to the deer not to wait until morning!!!

virginiashadow 11-01-2009 03:57 PM

Walk up to him and put another arrow through his heart/lungs.

bmb2759 11-01-2009 03:58 PM

I'm gonna go with: put the poor thing out of its misery!

Of course its not going to run from you, it can't use its back legs! Its paralyzed. Scared to death im sure when you walked up to it but couldn't do anything to get away. Depending on what else you hit, theres a good chance he'll be staring at you again tomorrow when you go back there.

What you should have done is put another arrow in him or just slit his throat with your knife.

Down&OutHunting 11-01-2009 03:58 PM

yea deffinately go back and put him out of his misery. Go put another arrow in him. Deer can still get away if theyre spined ive seen it happen.

dczys 11-01-2009 03:59 PM

you should go finish the deer off,.. NOW!! then never go hunting EVER again..

Howler 11-01-2009 03:59 PM

Should've put a second arrow in/through him moments after the first one.
Now you need to go back and finish the job, tonight!

marlin30/30_drabe 11-01-2009 04:11 PM

any spine shot calls for a follow up shot

James Vee 11-01-2009 04:12 PM

burlyman = girlyman from the sounds of it.

How do you not know to shoot the animal a second time when it is lying there with an arrow sticking out of its spine and entire back half of it's body motionless while it is kicking with it's front legs trying to get everything in order? Come on man.

ManofTheFall 11-01-2009 04:13 PM

You need to finish him off. No need to let him suffer any longer.

rybohunter 11-01-2009 04:15 PM

Are you serious?

Kill the stinkin deer dude.

I've seen a lot of REALLY dumb things on here over the years, this one may take the cake.

bigwhitetailbuck 11-01-2009 04:15 PM

Go back right now!! Go put another arrow into his heart

rh160kid 11-01-2009 04:20 PM

I cant believe someone asked this question!!! I mean are you friggin kiddin me-absolutely unbelievable is all i can say.

bowhuntertilldeath 11-01-2009 04:22 PM

Put that animal down now!

early in 11-01-2009 04:23 PM

Get back out there NOW and finish off that poor deer!! You've got no business on here asking questions when you should be out doing what you should have had sense enough to do when you dropped that deer.:s6:

blakefrautschi 11-01-2009 04:24 PM

if you ever get a second shot on a deer take it!!! try and kill the animal as fast and humane as posable.

goatman6 11-01-2009 05:42 PM

:eek2::nonono2::hit::rant::confused:

PUT THAT THING DOWN!!!! THATS WHAT YOU WHERE TRYING TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE SO GO FINISH THE JOB!!!

aldo88 11-01-2009 06:29 PM

Go back and finish him off and then turn in your man card. The antis are looking for people like to you to feed on this type of story. This thread should be deleted. Just send burlyman a message about what to do. Un-freakin-real!

bigcountry 11-01-2009 08:21 PM

You know boys, I am trying hard to change my ways. Real hard, even put some scripture in my signature to remind me. But dad gone this has to be a joke.

Howler 11-02-2009 03:19 AM


i dont know why asking advice on a forum resulted in such hate. i didnt realize that everyone was an expert right away. in the future..please explain and educate rather than yell and talk down to. thanks
I don't see any HATE in anyone's reply, BUT if you're old enough to hunt it is hard for anyone to beleive that you don't have knowledge enough to know when you've hit a deer, but not with a lethal hit, you gotta hit it again if given the opportunity. What is there to explain? A non-lethal hit needs another hit, should be common knowledge. Obviously not, BUT now you know and won't do it again!

NY Bowhunter 11-02-2009 05:57 AM

I don't post here much anymore since ... well the site went down the tubes (IMO)> But I felt obligated to login to let you know you are a freaking idiot. Do us a favor and sell your hunting equipment and never step foot in the woods again!

Fieldmouse 11-02-2009 06:33 AM

I say hunt again. Screw everyone else jumping down your throat. Hunting is an on going learning task. Everyone makes mistakes. I didn't read your first post from the other thread but who's to say he wouldn't have bled out the night. The advice on the board is to leave them alone overnight on a bad shot.

Good luck next time out. If there is ever a chance we could hook up and hunt, I'ld be glad to take you out!

NY Bowhunter 11-02-2009 06:38 AM


who's to say he wouldn't have bled out the night. The advice on the board is to leave them alone overnight on a bad shot.
You seriously don't see the difference in leaving one overnight on a bad shot and this situation?

Fieldmouse 11-02-2009 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by NY Bowhunter (Post 3492327)
You seriously don't see the difference in leaving one overnight on a bad shot and this situation?

He's changed the first post so no, I didn't get to read the original question. I'm not going to jump all over this guy for a mistake. It's the samething if someone makes a bad shot and then goes after a deer too early and ends up pushing it to an end result of no recovery at all. I haven't read vtoo many posts that tell someone to sell all their equipment and never hunt again, do you?

Give the guy a break. He's young and he's learning. Secondly, to say the deer was actually suffering is also an assumption. Deer go into shock like you and I where the body shuts down. Who's to say the deer wasn't in shock? Who's to say he really knew what was going on?

NY Bowhunter 11-02-2009 06:49 AM


It's the samething if someone makes a bad shot and then goes after a deer too early and ends up pushing it to an end result of no recovery at all.
Not even remotely close.


Secondly, to say the deer was actually suffering is also an assumption.
Shot in the spine dragging it's paralyzed back half of it's body trying to crawl away? You're right.... the deer was probably just fine.

whatever I'm out of here.... this place creeps me out.

Fieldmouse 11-02-2009 06:56 AM



Quote:
Secondly, to say the deer was actually suffering is also an assumption.
Shot in the spine dragging it's paralyzed back half of it's body trying to crawl away? You're right.... the deer was probably just fine.

whatever I'm out of here.... this place creeps me out.
See ya, don't let the door smack you where the good lord split ya.

Go back and read what I posted, never saw the original post and now that you have reposted some of it, I've seen this situtation happen before to a new hunter. Not an uncommon thing to happen to a first year hunter. Like I said everyone makes a mistake. I'm not going to throw this guy under the bus.

NY Bowhunter 11-02-2009 07:01 AM


See ya, don't let the door smack you where the good lord split ya.
Actually now that I see you're going to be a smart ass I think I'll stick around to annoy you.


I've seen this situtation happen before to a new hunter. Not an uncommon thing to happen to a first year hunter.
It's not uncommon to shoot a deer, see it laying there dragging it's paralyzed body around and get up, leave, get on the internet and not go back to finish it? My 6 year old would know what to do.

bigtim6656 11-02-2009 07:03 AM

Come on guys. Maybe i will be alone but we all make mistakes. I had a similar issue i shot a young doe in the leg she went 10 yards and bedded down. I kne she would not die. I got downstarted toward her i though walk out and forget about her. I did not i moved around for a clean kill shot when she gets up and runs off.
For some on here things are cut and dry. If you go off alittle they will bite your head off. But i think they need to let up alittle. If we make mistaked and do not talkabout it we never learn. But i think you know what you should have done. SOme of us can shot a deer 30 yards with a bow but for some walking up and sticking a knife in there rib cage is to much. It got to me it was the first time ihave regreted hunting. But i was ready to deal with it. DO not quick you made a mistake and know you did. You new and now one should expect you to be a seasoned hunter right off.
Also to the rest of you shut the **** up and let up on him alittle. A real man can tell someone there wrong without telling them there a girlyman

bigtim6656 11-02-2009 07:05 AM

I would say it has went uphill since you left why did you come back. Get lost don't think none of us knew you left. Leave the guy alone and jump out of your treestand holding a arrow to your chest. :poke:

Originally Posted by NY Bowhunter (Post 3492281)
I don't post here much anymore since ... well the site went down the tubes (IMO)> But I felt obligated to login to let you know you are a freaking idiot. Do us a favor and sell your hunting equipment and never step foot in the woods again!


bigtim6656 11-02-2009 07:09 AM

I wouldlike to see the orginal post. No need to have deleted it. Rob can you pull it up for us. as for Ny bowhunter. Did you leave yet. Seems you might want to soon before we start in on you. If you do not like this forum why are you here. 10k post mmm seems to me you like the place.

NY Bowhunter 11-02-2009 07:11 AM


as for Ny bowhunter. Did you leave yet. Seems you might want to soon before we start in on you.
LMFAO!! I'm sure you can imagine how petrified I am.

MOhunter46 11-02-2009 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by bigtim6656 (Post 3492356)
Come on guys. Maybe i will be alone but we all make mistakes. I had a similar issue i shot a young doe in the leg she went 10 yards and bedded down. I kne she would not die. I got downstarted toward her i though walk out and forget about her. I did not i moved around for a clean kill shot when she gets up and runs off.
For some on here things are cut and dry. If you go off alittle they will bite your head off. But i think they need to let up alittle. If we make mistaked and do not talkabout it we never learn. But i think you know what you should have done. SOme of us can shot a deer 30 yards with a bow but for some walking up and sticking a knife in there rib cage is to much. It got to me it was the first time ihave regreted hunting. But i was ready to deal with it. DO not quick you made a mistake and know you did. You new and now one should expect you to be a seasoned hunter right off.
Also to the rest of you shut the **** up and let up on him alittle. A real man can tell someone there wrong without telling them there a girlyman

Really? If the guy didnt know to put down a paralyzed, wounded deer, he shouldn't have been hunting in the first place, nuff said.

James Vee 11-02-2009 09:27 AM

You don't see me going back to delete or change my original post. Why would you support this guy. This is not an issue of knowledge, its an issue of morals and ethics. Either you have them or you don't. And it appears the original poster is a few cards short of a full deck.

BowHunter28 11-02-2009 09:47 AM

Seeing this made me think, why arent they teaching this type of thing, to put the animal down as quickly and humanely as possible in the hunter safety classes, or are they? (i cant remember hehe) Anyways I dont think you should have to ask a question about something like that, you should have the knowledge for such a situation.

James Vee 11-02-2009 10:12 AM

The only show that I have seen try to encourage a second or follow up archery shot if possible is Mark and Terry Drury's shows. I don't remember the exact program (they have like a half dozen shows). But really, does someone need to be taught this? Come on man.

solocamcan 11-02-2009 10:22 AM

Burlyman...I'm not going jump on you....thats already been done enough. I think you get the point. But I HIGHLY recommend that you tag along with more experienced hunters for awhile, it will prove valuable for your future hunting situations. Go buy a few magazines, deer videos etc etc....read and watch, you can learn a few good things that way as well.

bigtim6656 11-02-2009 10:28 AM

I am not supporting him i think we could just be alittle better about how we say what we say. Maybe he knew and did not want to maybe he did not know better off saying hey you messed up instead of you dumb son of a ***** and he leaves never to learn another thing and stops hunting

shott8283 11-02-2009 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by solocamcan (Post 3492587)
Burlyman...I'm not going jump on you....thats already been done enough. I think you get the point. But I HIGHLY recommend that you tag along with more experienced hunters for awhile, it will prove valuable for your future hunting situations. Go buy a few magazines, deer videos etc etc....read and watch, you can learn a few good things that way as well.



AND ladies and gentlemen.. THATS how you do it..

thank you sir. finally some good advice

cynikalHC 11-02-2009 11:44 AM

I havent read the story but it sounds like you spine shot a deer. Happened to me two weekends ago. dropped her hind end in its tracks but she continued to try and leave with her front legs. Had to walk to my pack and get my knife then slit her throat. It no different than using an arrow really. Either way you are cutting to kill.


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