muzzy or rage?
 

im torn between 2 broadheads. im in love with fixed blades. my muzzys have always shot well outta my bow. but lately ppl have been telling me about the rage 2 and 3 blade. im startin to like the rage but dont wana leave my muzzys...

whatd you guys think?:confused0024:

If your Muzzy's shoot well out of your bow and they kill deer......but hey, I understand that people want variety and change. Do what you feel is right. Heck, both heads will kill a deer if they are placed in the boiler room. Good luck.

If you are happy with the Muzzy you are using now,why switch? Now that being said, I have used Muzzys for the last few years, and I switched to the 2 blade rage this year. I wont get into why I switched, but I have my reasons. I have not shotanything with the age yet, so not sure how I will like them, but I will say this, they sure fly nice.

you could always use both, i keep tekans and thunderheads in my quiver.... some days i feel one will work better, i dont know why but i like being able to choose

My friend switched to rage 2 blades the same reason you did. And he has killed 2 Doe with them....he shoots a Drenlin at 68# and 30" draw...not one of those rages blew through completly. Im not a fan of them, I use the muzzy, but if you like them, then switch. But I stick with what works.

grim reaper

I know that the Muzzy is not in this video but there are similar heads featured. Watch the video and you make the decision on which one you would want on the end of your arrow should you accidentally hit a shoulder blade of a big buck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-srIw3na0

Perfect, now I know what to use for barrel hunting.

That isn't the point of the test. We obviously don't hunt barrels but this test shows you exactly what your chosen broadhead will do on an accidental shoulder shot on a big animal. Plan for the worst case scenario.

My two cents...like most broadheads now they are over priced. 10 to 15 dollars a head is getting crazy. I got the two blade Rage and was going to use them for turkeys but ended up trying one a doe. Well, I hit just a little back and hit the liver. I had to take up the tracking job the next morning. Three hours latter after getting on my hands and knees at times I found the doe....unfortunately the coyotes found it first. So whats this tell us....That a marginal hit will not somehow turn into a great shot. I will be shooting my trusty Muzzys as I have for many years. They never once let me down when I do my part.....just like the rage or any other head will. I like the fact I get 6 Muzzys for the price of 3 Rages. So....if you just want to try something different, yet over priced, go for it. They will not work magic but they will work.

BOTH,

I have two rages and two Muzzy's in my quiver. If I feel like its a closer shot and an awkward posture of the deer usually in my blind, I will use the bone smashing, cutter of the muzzy, but if its a broad side at 20, the Rage will leave a blood trail directly to him, minus a steak from the butchered meat.!

Muzzy is definately more durable, but I havent had a rage break in all of the shoulders ive put them into so...

Muzzy's are considerably cheaper and more fail proof though obviously...

Muzzy! They ARE bad to the bone.

I dont believe in mechanicals.

So bigbulls you are implying that a 55 gallon metal drum has the same physical makeup as a bone, thus the shooting into a 55 gallon drum is a good way to demonstrate the ability to penetrate bone?

I love my Muzzy's. Like some of you said, they are cheaper and do a hell of a job on a deer. They have never let me down. Pocket hits, non of my deer have gone farther than 100 yards, and have never had to wait to go get them. Muzzy's put them down, and for a hole lot cheaper. Hunting is getting expensive enough, I don't need my tip's to be also.

I shot muzzies for a long time, now they share my quiver with tekans. Maybe you could use rage now and try them on a doe, then go to old faithful when the rut hits so you have the confidence in the field. Just make sure you have a enough KE to get the rage to penetrate. For the 2 blade I would want at least 65. You'll probably need a new quiver to because rage and foam dont mix from what I hear.

What I am implying is that this is an excelt test to demonstrate the durability of a broadheads ability to stay together on even the toughest of animals.

So you advocate switching arrows depending on the situation? What the hell kind of sense does that make?

I took 5 deer with rages last season, and 1 so far this season. All complete pass thru's, and with no damage to the head or blades. I shoot 68# @ 29.5" draw, and add 25 grains with an Aftershock screw in weight.
I have shot deer with the Muzzy MX-3, 1 pass thru, and 2 partials, with the same bow setup.

... which is good proof that obtaining pass-throughs is so much more than just what head you're using. ;)

If Im in my blind and a deer walks within 10 yrds of my blind, I will most likely shoot the muzzy, mostly due to shooting thru mesh. If Im in a stand and have a 20-30 yrd shot, no mesh, I will definately shoot a rage.

Whats so hard to understand that. Also whats that about switching arrows? All six of mine are Gold tip 7595's set up for the each BH on the arrow. Is that confusing to you? Would you shoot a mechanical thru mesh?

I like my 3-blade, 100 grain Muzzys.

I must admit that I had the same thought about switching to Rage. I guess it is because of all of the hype and attention they are receiving. You guys have convinced me to stick with what works (for me) - Muzzy. Thanks.

yeah im with roger stv i think im guna stick with my muzzys. thanks for the help guys

G5 Montec

Never used the Rages. I do like the three blade muzzy's though. Shot those b4 I switched to the Montec's.

For the life me I can't understand why you would switch anything that is working for you. Rages are more expensive and not found as easily in a bind as Muzzy's. If you love your fixed Muzzys why would you consider switching? Rages won't kill a deer any deader than a Muzzy. More to go wrong with Rages also.

I use muzzy and have never had an issue. I dont use mechanicals. Mainly because I dont shot a compound much. But when I do, it is a fixed head. I gave lots of mechanicals a try, but was not very impressed. NOt sure about rage, never used them. Probably wont ever.

I cant help but ask, why? YOu switch arrows for a "give me" shot and/or switch to another for a marginal shot? Seems like it would make more sense to simply use the best broadhead. And trust me, Muzzy will leave just as good a blood trail as any head on the market.

The only marginal shot I would have to consider is shooting through mesh on my blind. I would not trust the mechanicals,although I agree with you about the Muzzy's and their deadly impact.

To me, a confident and ethical shot is always in the forefront of my shot, and I must admit Im torn between the Rage and Muzzy. I honestly dont trust my Muzzy for any more than a 20-30 yrd shot, while my rage I feel confident out to 40. You are free to comment on my style, but my track record shows that I am doing what I feel comfortable doing, and thats slaying deer.

I have tried to improve my longer shots with my Muzzy's and I am continuing to have to aim high and right for them to hit their mark at 30 or longer. I did change my arrows this year, and perhaps that has changed my tip weight slightly, but Im happy with how and when I shoot.

Well if you like muzzy's so much. Just buy some slick tricks and use those. There like a muzzy but are way tougher.

seems like everyone has got the rage bug now, i am still sticking to my WASP HAMMER SST broadheads though...for now...wait, what is the new NAP bloodrunner like???

Decisions, decisions :confused0024:

I have been big fan of Muzzy's for years but when the Rage came out I figured I'd give them a shot. Last year I bought the Rage(3 blade) tried them and endend up sending them back in for the recall,(still didn't like the way they were opening) Needless to say I stuck with the Muzzy's. Just this year I picked up some of the Rage(2 blades), and here in NY I used my last years doe tag to take an early doe this year. To make a long story short they did an awsome job, hit the liver and gut, no blood and found it about about 80 yrds from where I shot her.. I think imma stick with the Rage.

NO WAY would i go to Rage

they are junk

they break or only open half way or not at all



i am always trying new broadheads
most mechanicals are junk - some good - some terrible

right now i am testing out some buddy of mine found out about
EPEKs - they are sweet broadhead - awesome concept
few problems but shoot great

then slick tricks and shuttles are my favorite fixed heads

Please dont think Im picking at you, but your muzzy's will fly true out at further distances. You either have the wrong spine arrow or need to tune you bow a bit. Or both. Mechanicals are a quick fix for that, but not the best fix. Also, if you shoot further distances with a poor tuned bow, the arrow might hit where you want, but you could be sacrificing penetration. Ive shot bear glue ons, in the early 80s, thunderheads up till the 90s, then tried other heads. All flew perfect from my longbows, recurves, and the one compound I have. The secret is, tuned gear. But Im sure you already know that. I hope I dont appear to be talking down to you. If so, sorry.

not broke dont fix it

I use the rage,but if you like the muzzys i say stick witg em.

I just tagged my first deer with a rage and it broke two ribs on entry i shot high and back and broke one on exit also brought him down in 70 yards. Rage has the get your game garauntee which is great. I think the best thing about rage is that they have a huge entry whole and great penetration. If you get a chance take a look at the rage milkjug video on Youtube its sweet.

I have two 100 gr 3 blade muzzys and two 2 blade rages in my quiver. I shoot the rages from the treestands and the muzzys from the mesh windows of my blinds. I shoot both plus my fps the same so I am good. I enjoy variety and so I have no problem with the set up. Muzzys and rages work great!

i shot mx3 couple of years ago and killed deer with it and but the year after i switched to 2 blade rage and the slick trick both 100 gr havem both in my quiver just in case i have to hunt out of a blind instead of a stand but anyways i like the blood trail that i get from the rage lots of blood to follow like the post above they work but they dont work magic

This video looks to have been made back in 2007 when Rage was having some issues with their 3 Blade mechanicals. The problem with all blades deploying has since been corrected...its hard to find many people with issues since then. I hunted with Muzzy 100's for nearly 15 years, so I'm not biased. Made the switch last season, and couldn't be happier with the Rage. Tuning your bow properly is very important, especially with fixed blade broadheads. Mechanicals can help improve accuracy, but you need to shoot what you feel comfortable with. Trust me...I will be the first to let you all know if these Rage broadheads fail me.

I didn't post the video to show blade deployment but rather durability of different styles of broadheads but If you don't like that one then look at this one from 2009 with a Rage 2 blade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZRzBYuBIc4