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wisbowhunter2009 09-29-2009 11:24 AM

Wisconsin DNR
 
Well i just need to vent a little bit about the stupid wolves again! I'm 18 years old now, been in the woods since i was 6 years old. Every year from when i was 6 until i was 11 my grandpa and dad both shot bucks... They had seen 10 bucks a day.. Well thats until the wolves came, Ever since then the deer population went down horribly. But yet they say the wolves dont do anything, Bull**** they dont i seen a pack of 10 wolves take down a 10 pointer 2 years ago. And another thing, they said there wasn't very many bears out there.. HAHA! ya right theres more bear than there is deer. What im trying to get at is the Wisconsin DNR is just plain out right STUPID!!!!!!!!!! They dont know left from right! Im sick of it and i can't wait till they get to Buffalo County where the big money spots are! then they'll be scratching there heads!!! Next year im not even buying a license... But thanks for reading and listening to be bitch **** and moan... Cya

Northport buckslayr 09-29-2009 12:08 PM

Your preachin to the choir here. I gun hunt up north and there is 0 deer left up there. There are twice as many bears as deer, and any local will tell you tons of wolf stories. Out of four guys in camp last year I saw three and the other guys saw nothing. Down here where I bow hunt I used to see deer every time out. This year I have been out 8 times and seen deer 3 times. Thats after EAB several years in a row because of "herd reduction." The DNR is worthless and ruining what was a wonderful tradition.

earnabuck 09-29-2009 12:24 PM

Funny, I gun hunt in Iron County, near Mercer. Our best year ever was 2000, We shot 9 deer among 6 hunters and 3 nice bucks. Since then we have averaged about 1 or 2 deer per season with minimal sightings. I am not knocking the DNR because they don't manage deer for the hunters to always be successful but I do believe that wolves have impacted the quantity and make hunting much more difficult.

soulless 09-29-2009 12:47 PM

shoot every wolf you see.. ....we dont eat wolves but we do eat deer so what's up with the wi DNR... dumb@sses

Red 5 stdby 09-29-2009 12:57 PM

I agree that the DNR has mismanaged the deer herd in the north. The wolves are becoming a problem. Look on the WI DNR website, it lists how many people's dogs have been killed by the wolves. The number increases every year. Bear numbers are up as well. They nearly doubled the permits this year. Unfortunately it's a govt. agency that is largely influenced by politics than common sense. Don't blame the wardens and field officers. Blame the decision makers in Madison!

natimage 09-29-2009 04:30 PM

The DNR really has nothing to do with it though does it? Nor the lawmakers in Madison...it's the lawmakers in DC since it's a federal endangered species

magicman54494 09-29-2009 05:00 PM

This will be the first year in a lot of years that I won't bow hunt the north. I will rifle hunt if we get snow. I love tracking and need the large area to do that. Last season I saw 2 deer in the Clam Lake area bow and gun combined. I estimate (based on sitings, tracks along the road, and tracks in the snow) that there are about 8 deer per square mile in my area. My estimate may be high because I target areas that contain deer. This season I hunted out of state with my bow and got to do a real hunt where I got to see deer and had chances at some nice ones. DNR beware - you got my bow license money this year but I think you will sell one less next year! I hunt 2 other states besides Wis. and those 2 states blow away any hunting I have ever seen in Wis. I think eventually other Wis hunters will catch on and hunt elsewhere. I have grown tired of complaining and just go out of state now. Here's the laugher, the DNR claims that my area up north is 22% over populated! Oh and BTW, it's not all the wolves fault. The biggest problem is the DNR has got us to kill way too many. Poor management! I wonder what will happen if we get a tough winter?

sportsman22 09-29-2009 05:05 PM

Two wolves killed my neighbor's (up north in Philips) two hunting dogs. Valued at $3,000 a piece.

Whenever I see a wolf, they tend to disappear. Weird.

peakrut 09-29-2009 05:12 PM

I agree the Wi DNR is jacked up but what are we going to do about? Suggestions?

W9ARcher 09-29-2009 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by peakrut (Post 3458395)
I agree the Wi DNR is jacked up but what are we going to do about? Suggestions?

I hear that Wolves are allergic to lead, especially in the belly.

I hunt near Weyerhaeuser and got my first wolf pack on my trail cameras this year. Though we saw deer last year and harvested our typical dozen deer, I'm not seeing as many feeding in the fields this summer.

A hunting gang in the Blue Hills north of us got 3 deer for 15 hunters last year. This is a group that typically only shoots bucks (no QDM practice there) and fills 80% of their tags. They said it's like the deer just vanished.

Gonna be an interesting season.

passthrough24 09-29-2009 09:51 PM

We use to spend a lot of time hunting in northern wisconsin and I have some great memories from years ago...sadly the hunting up there is all by destroyed, Im not sure if it is because of the wolves or overharvesting by hunters. It is sad to see this great resource all by destroyed. I hope that eventually the DNR gets things figured out so someday maybe my children can enjoy hunting in this awesome area.

wis_bow_huntr 09-30-2009 03:11 AM

We never had a problem in clark county with wolves until this year. They are worse than the bears. Atleast the DNR openly admited that the bear population was higher than they thought and it sounds like they are going to issue more kill tags for bear applicants next year. But now what to do about the Wolves. This isnt just a clark county issue, its a state wide issue. We dont need wolves roaming our farm lands killing our cattle and horses and we really dont need them killing any hunters or anyone else for that matter. Wolves have no fear of humans, found this out about a month ago personally. DC really needs to get their act together before its too late and get the wolves off the endagered species list. Hunting isnt much fun anymore when you have to carry a side arm for protection and youre always watching your back in and out of the woods....We as hunters need to make a stand and let our voices be heard before someone ends up dead.

Northport buckslayr 09-30-2009 05:11 AM

We won a huge victory already by getting rid of EAB. In areas without wolves, all we can do know is NOT SHOOT DOES. I know that QDM and the media make it sound like your ethical duty to pop as man does as possible, but that is if your area is overpopulated, it doesnt sound like anywhere in wisconsin is having that problem. Now that hunters arent forced to shoot does, we must excercise some self restraint and let does walk for awhile. It will take at least 3-4 years of minimal doe harvest and mild winters to get the population anywhere close to what it was only 7 or so years ago. As far as the wolves go I guess we just have start writing letters.

W9ARcher 09-30-2009 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Northport buckslayr (Post 3458843)
We won a huge victory already by getting rid of EAB. In areas without wolves, all we can do know is NOT SHOOT DOES. I know that QDM and the media make it sound like your ethical duty to pop as man does as possible, but that is if your area is overpopulated, it doesnt sound like anywhere in wisconsin is having that problem. Now that hunters arent forced to shoot does, we must excercise some self restraint and let does walk for awhile. It will take at least 3-4 years of minimal doe harvest and mild winters to get the population anywhere close to what it was only 7 or so years ago. As far as the wolves go I guess we just have start writing letters.

We probably need to extend this practice to areas with wolves as well. Hadn't thought about this as I usually put 3-4 in the freezer each year, but it's probably best to start hunting bucks only and bring along the camera.

Northport buckslayr 09-30-2009 12:41 PM

ATTA BOY W9ARcher! I am not old school enough to be completely anti doe shooting, but does are basically what control your population and if there are no deer around the only way to increase your population is to let more does survive and have offspring. Without EAB the population has to increase if people are willing to sacrifice a few unfilled tags.

jeepinxj 09-30-2009 12:48 PM

Ya its a little rediculous these days, I hunt in Winchester Wisconsin/ Vilas county. Last year out of 6 people in different trees on 98 acres we saw 1 deer. It would be nice if there was something we could do about it. GUTSHOT???

browningbolt 09-30-2009 01:15 PM

Didnt you all here the answer the DNR gave.If theres no deer where youre used to hunting go hunt somewhere else where there is deer.To me thats no answer to someone who bought land or was family land and now there land is useless for hunting and there paying taxes and payments on this land.What a joke....

diamondrack 09-30-2009 04:43 PM

I understand that you guys are talking about northern wisconsin, but the u.p. in michigan has the same problems. I know there are some places that people still do their share of hunting and are successful but many places have been wiped clean of deer. My Grandparents own to different tracks of land (80acr. in newberry county and 100acr. in baraga county), last two years he hunted almost every single day of all-the-seasons and only managed to kill a decent 8pt., but the sad part is that he seen more wolfs then deer-with about 3-1 ratio.. I hunt in the L.P. of michigan but it still pisses me off that people in whatever position thinks wolfs our more important to our society then deer that many people need to survive, especially in these tough times.

jimmy250favre 09-30-2009 05:22 PM

This is actually a real problem
 
Many people who are reading these posts that hunt/live outside of Wisconsin probably think this is all overreaction. It isn't!!! We have land in the central part of the state and our deer sightings have dropped dramatically in the past couple of years. With that comes a decreased amount of venison in the freezer. We drew a bear tag this year and set up some sites on county land in the central part of the state and had 5 different bear come in. That is a lot of bear. Wolf stories are talked about at every cafe and gas station you go into. Its beginning to get very discouraging going out into the deer woods and consistently seeing NO deer. How does the DNR expect the younger generation to start hunting and keep the tradition alive if there aren't any deer out there to be seen, let alone harvested?!?! Theyve admitted in many articles that the bear population was underestimated dramatically due to a flaw in theyre estimation procedures. Like somebody else said, if they would use common sense instead of "scientific studies and protocol", the DNR could possibly have a more accurate number of wildlife living in particular areas. Something has to change with the WI DNR or WI hunters are going to begin to hunt different states.

soulless 09-30-2009 05:36 PM

fawk.. kill every wolf you see...:devil:



Originally Posted by W9ARcher (Post 3458520)
I hear that Wolves are allergic to lead, especially in the belly.

I hunt near Weyerhaeuser and got my first wolf pack on my trail cameras this year. Though we saw deer last year and harvested our typical dozen deer, I'm not seeing as many feeding in the fields this summer.

A hunting gang in the Blue Hills north of us got 3 deer for 15 hunters last year. This is a group that typically only shoots bucks (no QDM practice there) and fills 80% of their tags. They said it's like the deer just vanished.

Gonna be an interesting season.



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