Form Help/Questipons...
 

finally here is some pics of my shooting form...please pick me apart...
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i have a few questions too....what is causng my left sholder to hurt when shooting??
i can shoot dead on for awhile then out of no where i can be 3 inches low or 4 inches to the right at 20 yards at any given time, why?

Looks to me like the first thing I'd do is shorten my DL.

(According to some of these guys....you can do that by shortening your Dloop....lol) (just kidding)

Yes,the draw length is long.If possible,shorten the bow.

Your release is also long and if possible shorten that as well.

If You can't shorten the bow,try removing the loop and shooting it off the string,that will help you get some of that draw length back that you are losing with it.;)


To be honest though,the release and loop still won't get you where you need to be. You really need a shorter draw length.



You need to fix the grip as well.Try these tips. http://www.bowtube.com/media/6/Get_A_Grip/

never mind

hmm..i shortened my draw length once and i thought it was good...someone draw on my face and show me exactly where would be a good DL..lol i have seen that video and tried to shoot like that...but i am afraid that the bow will fall once i shoot so i grip with my other 3 fingers...any help on the shoulder?? i shot again tonight and omg it hurts soooo bad! :(

A sling will stop the fear.Right now there are several signs that your draw is too long.The first sign is your head is tilted back to get into the string trying to use the tip of the nose as an anchor.The second is your anchor is too far back as well with your release hand(It should be a solid anchor on your face somewhere that you are comfortable with.Most incorporate the jaw bone).Notice the bend in the release hand (it is ****ed down)It should be more in line and the elbow on the release arm should be higher as well.You release is extremely long adding to all the problem and there is no way to get your finger OVER the trigger and apply back tension.

Your head should be vertical to slightly forward in a more aggresive posture.Another dead giveaway is all your weight is on your back leg.Your weight should be distributed evenly and I doubt you could do that if you tried now.

Your bow shoulder should be able to ride BACK into the socket and not up.Not sure where you are with that.

Look at the video I posted earlier and pay close attention to the T posture.

Some more pics for reference.You can use a video camera or a full length mirror,which will give you immediate feedback on what you are doing and what it feels like.




Notice how he has HIS anchors different.They are personal.

Note the hand positions on the grips, too (the bottom 2 photos).

always good advice..ill study the hand placement video...and try the other things you mentioned...what about the release?? are my arrows too long?? the guy at the bow shop made me get just a tad longer arrow so a broadhead would clear the..(i honestly dont know what its call :( ) i looked at my bow and its DL is as low as it can go now and you guys still say its long....i was going to use this bow until next year but if i truly want to be a good archer will i have to get a new bow that fits me soon???even tho season is 20 days away...ah!

you arrows will be a bit long when you get your draw length situation settled. but worry about correcting your grip and DL first. i dunno if you can twist out an inch of DL in the string or not, probably wiser to go with a new bow, but if funds are not available... The shorter release suggestion is a good one, Check out the little goose from scott. it could be a good choice. and tie a nice tight release loop. might help a bit, at least get you a hair closer.

i think i will get a new bow....what are the main things i will need to know before i go to an archery shop?? DL obviously...how do i tell that??

The shop I work at we usually take your wingspan, fingertip to fingertip (relaxed shoulders not stretched) and lets pretend its 73.5 in, we then divide that by 2.5 which equals 29.4 that tells us that we will start out with a 29 in bow with a loop and have you shoot a few while watching your form and we will move up or down from there.

im pretty sure it is 70 or 71 ish..what does DL have in relation to arrow length?? sorry for all the simple duh questions...

Just as anything in life, arrow length is preference for example my DL is 28.5 and my arrows are cut at 29.25 ... its probably all in my head but I like how they fly at longer distances than my old 30 inchers If you don't want to get too technical yet want to keep your grain weight reasonable, its a safe bet to cut your arrows one inch longer than your DL.

Most people today have their arrows 1" SHORTER than their draw length,unless they need the longer arrow out in front of the riser for broadhead clearance.New bows are cleared out for the broadheads and the rest sits back behind the shelf.A general rule of thumb is have your arrow 1" in front of the REST.Draw length is measure to the deepest part of the grip plus 1 3/4" and that means your actuall draw length is shorter than your bows draw length.Making your arrow shorter than your (bows)draw length.

hmm good info...tomorrow or saturday i am going to a archery shop for a new bow...i think with the problem with my release it wasnt tight enough....i THINK i am doin better on how to hold it...ill post a pic sometime to make sure...ohh i just recently found out i was left eye dominant...what if i get a right handed bow...what will the fact my left eye is dominate affect?? also with your right arm...or whichever arm you pull back with...is your forearm suppose to be directly about your bicep?..

Something else you should consider very seriously. Getting ones draw length right is not as easy as just taking a measurement, no matter how you're measured. Sometimes the charts just don't quite fit and some tinkering is involved; something you find out over time. Therefore I highly recommend that you buy a bow that is adjustable for draw length. Some bows come with cams that are draw length specific and this you definitely do not want right now.

And when you look at bows you'll find that there is a sticker on the bottom limb that usually states the poundage range and draw length. Do not accept this as being right as most bows do not really draw what they are marked. Most are too long. Ask the shop to actually measure the bow you are looking at.

Another thing is to pay attention to whether the cam(s) are straight. Too many these days are crooked (called cam lean). Do not accept a bow with cam lean. Make them straighten it out before you pay for it. Actually a good shop should do this routinely. This should also be an indication of whther you are dealing with good people who know their stuff. Accept no BS in these matters.

I wouldn't get too concerned about arrow length at this point. You're going to a shop and if they have their ducks in a row they should be able to set you up with regards to arrow length and spine

whats a cam? but ok thanks for the advice!! i plan to be measured and have the bow measured and shoot and what not before i even think of purchasing...like i said i want it to last 2 or 3 years at least...

i went to vics archery and bought a bow...its a PSE...doesnt day exactly what kind..master mabe??....came with a whisker biscuit, sight and quiver..thought i got a good deal...got my draw length right and he showed me exactly where my anchor was....next to my mouth and also touching my nose.....now i just need to go shoot it! the only thing im gettin used to is the let of...it feels like nothing is there compared to my old bow!!

post some pics of the new gear!