quartering away shot?
 

ok, how many of you would take a quartering away shot? let's say the deer is broadside at 15 yards. you come to full draw then all of a sudden the deer turns walking away from you quartering. all you have is say 4 to 6 inches between the hind leg and the rib cage to put the arrow. how many of you have the confidence and would take and make that shot.
i have and i have made that shot how about you.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I'm trying to picture the quartering away shot you describe, quartering away shots are your best bet for a kill shot, better than broadside. I always aim so that my arrow finds the oppisite shoulder. Your chances of taking out the lung(s), heart or other vital organs is greater. You have a greater margin of error than with a broadside shot.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

i'd go for it 15 yards away i can hit a quarter <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

RE: quartering away shot?
 

A shot like that,..... deer walking away at about a 45 degree angle,...... most bowhunter would consider that the ideal shot opportunity. The trick is to mentally aim for the spot you want the arrow to exit. Your kill window does get a little smaller, but your tissue damage goes way up.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

If the shot is fairly clear I'm in.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

THAT'S THE SHOT YOU WANT!!!!!!!

RE: quartering away shot?
 

The best shot for me is slightly quartering away. That is the best opportunity for a double lung/heart shot. If I can't see the opposite forward leg to use as a guide for my shot, I don't take the shot. This scenario wouldn't offer me that shot.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

At 15 yards, I would not even hesitate.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I'm all about 15 yard shots...especially quartering away!!! Actually I had one this year on a nice 7pt...He was 13yds away, quartering slightly away...head down...I drew t he bow back...released...and watched as my arrow bounced off every branch in the woods. That arrow changed directions so many times it looked like a laser light show. LOL

RE: quartering away shot?
 

15 yard quartering away shot = dead deer

RE: quartering away shot?
 

At 15 yds I think I'd take the shot. This past season I waited on 20 yd quartering away until she finally gave me the broadside. I prefer broadside shots.

[Deleted]
 

[Deleted by Admins]

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I wonder how deep that arrow is gonna be burried in the ground?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Sounds great to me!!

I know someone who hunts over lots of bait, in a pretty large parcel where he can hold quite a few deer. He has a blind called the &quot;family blind&quot;, in which he video tapes his bowhunt and is able to sit with his entire family-wife, 3 boys, and a girl. He had a nice 10 point in feeding at 20 yards, mostly broadside, for 45 minutes. It was all on video and after 45 minutes the deer walked towards him, turned broadside, then quartered away-which is what he waited 45 minutes for, and shot the deer in the gut at 15 yards. So much for his &quot;perfect shot&quot;, but he did recover the deer.

I love a quartering away shot, the deer is most often looking almost directly away from you, much better for drawing the bow, and the kill area is fully exposed, but I'll take what I can get-broadsides not too bad either!

Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I think that 390's talking about a sharp quartering away shot. 6&quot; showing, steel's flying.....Quartering away is prefered by most bowhunters.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

yes' i'm talking about a tough steep angle shot. not that easy 45 degree quartering away shot. all you have at 15 yards is about 4 to 6 inches to put that arrow in. and by george, if you can group arrows in a 3 inch group at 30 yards at a 3-d deer target, then you should have the confidence to take and make this shot. i think there's alot of hunter's here now that would not take that shot. but as they gain more experience and confidence over the years then this shot will become second nature to them.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

It sounds like a good shot to me. I would take it if I was in that situation and the shooting lane was perfect.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Have done it a few times, right at the last rib and exited through the chest or off shoulder. The deer have never made it past 70 yards. Again it comes down to if you know you can make the shot or not. Any doubt don't shoot.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

6&quot; target at 15 yards, hmmmmm that seems like a pretty big target to me. I would take that shot any day. Good hunting.
Dylan

>>>>--------o-->

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I have and I would again .No problem with it .

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I'D FEEL COMFORTABLE (SP) TO TAKE THE SHOT.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I would definetly take that shot. That is your best shot for a double lung hit. Plus the deer is looking away from you. I practice that shot all the time on my 3D target. Most of my bow kills have been on deer that are quartering away.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Absolutely.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I would take a quartering away shot like that in a hearbeat!!!! provide the deer is not walking. I won't shoot at a moving deer with my bow.

TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Well I hate to be the odd one out, but I don't think I would do it. If there is any chance I am going to hit the opposite shoulder, I'll pass. My bow just doesn't have what it takes to get a pass thru with the shoulder in the way.

You guys all talk how it doesn't matter what broad head you use as long as you have proper shot placement and wait for the right shot. Then you say you would not hesitate at a quartering away shot where you would have to put an arrow thru 1 third of the deer and pray you did not catch the shoulder on the way out. Maybe if I were shooting 70 or 80 ft/lbs of ke like some of you guys, but I'm not risking it with my 45 or 50 ft/lbs. Maybe if I were pretty high up and the deer was close so the angle was fairly acute, but then that is a hard shot also. You also better know where to hit the deer too. If you aim at it like you were shooting 3-d you are going to be chasing a deer with an arrow sticking out of it for a while.

I am not bagging on you guys that have a lot of experience and can make a shot like this. It's just that you're making this sound like an easy shot to us new guys, and it's not. Especially from the ground or a low stand. I have tried it with my 3-d target, and in order to hit the vitals you almost have to shoot it in the hip. And then when you line up where the exit wound would be, it is dangerously close to the shoulder. But I do agree I would rather have it quartering away than to me. Mess up on that one and you either hit it solid in the shoulder or stick it thru the gut. Bad scenerio either way with my bow.

Don't any body get too riled up, these are just my opinions, with little to base them on except what I have been taught by others.

Paul

Edited by - biteme/paul mohr on 01/24/2002 19:48:00

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Paul, I see what your saying about sticking it in the oppisite sholder. If that happens, your arrow just stays in the deer instead of going clanking off through the trees. The damage has already been done.

It's all over but the Eatin'!!

John

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Paul, I see what your saying about sticking it in the oppisite sholder. If that happens, your arrow just stays in the deer instead of going clanking off through the trees. The damage has already been done.

It's all over but the Eatin'!!

John

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I would take the shot. 6&quot; window at 15yds. is looking pretty big. I will differ from most here though. I am not knocking a quartering away shot, it is a good one. But, I greatly prefer a nice broadside shot over any other. Heart shots are nice, heart/one lung is nice, but time in, time out, a good broadside where you centerpunch both lungs, and pass through the animal quickly, will result in a faster kill, with shorter trail. I base this on a ton of my own experience. I`m not that young, and have been foolish enough to spend most of the money I have made in my life, hunting whitetails in every state I can get to. So, I`m talking alot of bowkills here.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

My experience is lacking, but my ethics are not.
Don't want to give anyone fire power, especially any trolling anti's.
Dylan

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;--------o--&gt;

Edited by - 55#recurve on 01/25/2002 01:17:07

RE: quartering away shot?
 

At 15 yards there aren't many shots or angles I won't take. The only thing left is the dragging.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

paul when taking a quartering away shot hitting the far shoulder the damage is already done the kill will be clean and quick. A quartering away shot is prefered my alot of people i won't hesitate shooting it but I prefer broadside shots.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I read your second post beretta390 and maybe you are trying to describe a different shot but all things it boils down to &quot;using your best judgement&quot; There are few perfect shots and then at that they are quick and have to be timed. To pass on a shot that doesn't feel right - saves a long track, possible lost deer and lets you hunt that deer another day.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

That's the way I like it!

RE: quartering away shot?
 

If I stick the arrow in the shoulder and don't get a pass thru, there will be less blood loss. I was under the impression this is what takes a deer down. Bleed to death. Sure it will die, but where and when. I want a pass thru, period. I already tracked my first deer 400 yards with very little blood because I did not get a pass thru shot. Broad side by the way, took out one lung and the heart. Sure it died, but I am glad it wasn't raining out. I spent 2 hours on my hands and knees turning over leaves looking for tiny drops of blood. That was even after the arrow had been knock out by a tree.

It seems that this is slightly contradicting to some of the previous posts I have read. I am correct in assuming regardless of the shot offered to me, a pass thru shot with two holes is always more desirable and what I should strive for. Or am I wrong here. Is it viable to just take any shot that will put my arrow thru the vitals. If I take out both lungs it does not matter where my arrow goes? I am not being a smart ass, I really want to know. This would open up a lot more shots for me. I passed up a nice 10 or 11 point when I shot my seven point because I could not get the shot I wanted. If I would have taken the shot in this thread I could have done it 5 or 6 different times. Instead I chose to shoot the smaller deer because is was broad side with it's head in the weeds.

Or maybe I am making too much out of this and underestimating my bows capibilities. I was trying to use a spitfire mechanical with a 350 grn arrow moving at around 230 to 240 fps, which obviously was not a good combo, but I thought with the smaller cutting dia I could get away with it. Do you guys think the same bow and arrow but tipped with a Steel Force cut to tip head would make it thru a shoulder of a medium sized deer at 20 yards and in?

Paul

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Paul,

I may be misreading you last post, but it seems you are under the impression that if a deer isn't bleeding onto the ground, it isn't bleeding. That is NOT the case. Yes, the complete pass-through, double lung, low exit, blood pouring out on the ground through both holes is the Holy Grail of bow shots. If you hit the off shoulder and don't pass through with that same shot, the animal is still bleeding internally and will die just as quickly. It may be tougher to track since it won't spill blood on the ground as soon, but you will find the chest cavity has a lot of blood in it when you gut the deer. In my opinion, your 400 yard track had far more to do with only hitting one lung than it did with not passing through. But we all have to learn which shots we are comfortable with, and stay within those limits.

As for the hard quartering shot, hit the deer at the back of the ribcage and shoot for an exit IN FRONT of the off shoulder and it will pile up very quickly.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I'd drop him.

400 yards on a heart shot?I've watched every deer die with sight of my stand with a heart shot.What did you do just nick the heart?

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Paul,With the set up you mentioned at 230FPS you are getting 41 pounds of Ke at 240 it's on 44 lbs.That's not enough KE to shoot Mechs.

I would also rather have a double lung that didn't pass through then let's say a liver shot that did.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

Paul, in my opinion, a double lung pass through is the optimum shot. That is the shot I take. Both lungs and two holes are better than a lung and heart with no pass through any day of the week. Especially if you are shooting from an elevated possition where the entrance hole is up high.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

QUARTERING AWAY SHOTS ARE GREAT SHOTS BUT I WOULD AVOID THEM FOR BEARS AND GOATS. FOR ME BROADSIDE IS BETTER ON THESE CRITTERS AS I WANT A BETTER CHANCE OF LETTING AIR OUT OF BOTH LUNGS. IF YOU ONLY GET ONE LUNG THEIR STAMINA IS SO STRONG THEY CAN GO A LONG WAYS. AND WITH BEARS IT COULD BE IN YOUR DIRECTION QTR. AWAY SHOT NEED TO ENTER I THE GUT BEHIND THE RIBS OR YOU CAN GET A DEFLECTION OF THE RIBS. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GET BOTH LUNGS WITH A QRT AWAY SHOT BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T. THE ANGLE OF THE QRT AWAY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. IF YOU HIT THE SHOULDER BLADE YOU ARE WAY TOO FAR FOREWARD. ALSO RIB CONFIGERATION(SP) ON SOME ANIMALS IS DIFFERENT.SO THE GAP IS NARROWER.... APPEARENTLY CAPE BUFFULO RIBS OVERLAP SO QRT AWAY IS BEST....HEAR SAY I HAVE NEVER HUNTERD ONE OR SEEN ONE.

RE: quartering away shot?
 

I actually had that shot once but it was about 22 yards. Buck was walking quickly
and the broadside shot went away before I
could draw the bow. I got him through the
liver.