The true meaning of Easter
04-14-2009, 09:35 AM
#21
Fork Horn
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
dandbuck what IS Easter? Easter is a celebration that Christ is risen and his spirit is IN ME and he waits to welcome me to heaven when it is my time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
Look up WHAT the Easter bunny and egg hunts are - they're as anti-Christian as Halloween and wedding rings. Like I said, MY KIDS know there is no Easter bunny, finding the eggs are a scavenger hunt fun for them, I feel this is not wrong. I'm not teaching them that some bunny hid them there for them to find, they know I hid them for THEM to find, and play, and be kids. By the way, what part about a wedding ring is not Christian?
Hey, do what everyone else does, but for me? No thank you, I'll not be a part of it. I don't think I do, do what everyone else does, that's why my kids know Jesus and who he is, and that they can have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus.
This Easter weekend I went on a 3 day turkey hunt with my 74 year old Dad. Sitting in a blind, watching the sun rise, the sparrows lighting on the branches outside my blind, the fox squirrels, listening to thunder and sitting through pouring rain ....... and hearing turkeys gobble too ...... all of that was what God allowed us/me to have, through the crucifixtion and resurrection of Jesus .... and being thankful in my own private way I believe was much more beneficial to my soul than than to the kids souls out hunting, opening up plastic eggs made in China and eating chocolate rabbits.
I don't want my kids caught up in what everyone else does and miss the meaning of things. What Easter is, what Christmas is ........ its all but lost to be honest with you and every people who see it and know it still get lost. This whole statement i do not understand, i don't get what you are saying. Actually I do not understand if you are a believer or not. God Bless, i agree to disagree.
Dandbuck
dandbuck what IS Easter? Easter is a celebration that Christ is risen and his spirit is IN ME and he waits to welcome me to heaven when it is my time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
Look up WHAT the Easter bunny and egg hunts are - they're as anti-Christian as Halloween and wedding rings. Like I said, MY KIDS know there is no Easter bunny, finding the eggs are a scavenger hunt fun for them, I feel this is not wrong. I'm not teaching them that some bunny hid them there for them to find, they know I hid them for THEM to find, and play, and be kids. By the way, what part about a wedding ring is not Christian?
Hey, do what everyone else does, but for me? No thank you, I'll not be a part of it. I don't think I do, do what everyone else does, that's why my kids know Jesus and who he is, and that they can have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus.
This Easter weekend I went on a 3 day turkey hunt with my 74 year old Dad. Sitting in a blind, watching the sun rise, the sparrows lighting on the branches outside my blind, the fox squirrels, listening to thunder and sitting through pouring rain ....... and hearing turkeys gobble too ...... all of that was what God allowed us/me to have, through the crucifixtion and resurrection of Jesus .... and being thankful in my own private way I believe was much more beneficial to my soul than than to the kids souls out hunting, opening up plastic eggs made in China and eating chocolate rabbits.
I don't want my kids caught up in what everyone else does and miss the meaning of things. What Easter is, what Christmas is ........ its all but lost to be honest with you and every people who see it and know it still get lost. This whole statement i do not understand, i don't get what you are saying. Actually I do not understand if you are a believer or not. God Bless, i agree to disagree.
Dandbuck
04-14-2009, 10:37 AM
#22
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
Hmm, sounds like a bunch of self serving stuff to me. Remember, "he who loves the world or anything in the world, the love of the Father is not in him, The world and all that is in it, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life are not of theFather, but is of the world".
hmmmm yes,I think there is a huge difference
It just amazes me. People like Brad wants to live by the law, and not by grace
We all have our own little set of idols, brad's may be turkey hunting, or hunting period, or his idol could be sowing discord among brothen, mine is archery, woodworking, hunting, eating, etc.
200 years ago you'd have burned me alive, die and I'm not guilty, walk away from the flames and I'm a warlock huh?
But there is truth we all have our battles - I just fight the ones that seem to be at the top of the heap first, like the bastardizations of Easter and Christmas that are so plainly obvious.
Its all about the heart
I'll tell you if the intent was there, TRULY there, then egg hunting would be of no appeal to you at all, in fact the whole concpet would make you want to puke because it has NOTHING to do with the risen Christ but rather pagan, man made material things that serve your purposes, not anything else but that.
Easter is a celebration that Christ is risen and his spirit is IN ME and he waits to welcome me to heaven when it is my time.
You keep telling yourself that ....... doing unChristian things isn't very Christian at all is it?
MY KIDS know there is no Easter bunny, finding the eggs are a scavenger hunt fun for them, I feel this is not wrong.
Of course youi don't feel its wrong - because if you admitted it was wrong,
you'd have to show humility and admit wrongness.
Few people have that capacity, and there is peer pressure because hey, everyone is doing it, right?
I bet you trick or treat too don't you?
This whole statement i do not understand, i don't get what you are saying. Actually I do not understand if you are a believer or not. God Bless, i agree to disagree.
Dandbuck
I am a confusing person, no doubt.
I very much have grown hard to organized religions. I have come to hate the commercialism of Easter and Christmas. The two have become things they were not to ever have become.
I mean if you explained to the Apostles that in 2000 years, kids would be hunting colored, hollow, egg immitations filled with candies etc I am certain that would have befuddled them because it has NOTHING to do with Jesus and rising from the dead, does it?
Does it?
Well, it DOES if you trace the pagan lore and connection of eggs and symbolism of rebirth. I believe its a Jewish thing of sorts with salted egg? But what it IS today?
Nothing of it has Christ in it, does it?
Yet, make a post and get a bunch of heck yea's without ever thinking about it.
04-14-2009, 10:47 AM
#23
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
not at all like the chocolate bunnies, easter egg hunting, baskets, pretty dresses, good lunch food and a token appearance at your local church huh ?
hmmmm yes,I think there is a huge difference
don't pretend to know me ......... you do not
say anything against the main stream .... question how the pagan rituals of easter eggs and Jesus can be anywhere in the same sentence and your motives are questioned?
200 years ago you'd have burned me alive, die and I'm not guilty, walk away from the flames and I'm a warlock huh?
But there is truth we all have our battles - I just fight the ones that seem to be at the top of the heap first, like the bastardizations of Easter and Christmas that are so plainly obvious.
Is it?
I'll tell you if the intent was there, TRULY there, then egg hunting would be of no appeal to you at all, in fact the whole concpet would make you want to puke because it has NOTHING to do with the risen Christ but rather pagan, man made material things that serve your purposes, not anything else but that.
Hmm, sounds like a bunch of self serving stuff to me. Remember, "he who loves the world or anything in the world, the love of the Father is not in him, The world and all that is in it, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life are not of theFather, but is of the world".
hmmmm yes,I think there is a huge difference
It just amazes me. People like Brad wants to live by the law, and not by grace
We all have our own little set of idols, brad's may be turkey hunting, or hunting period, or his idol could be sowing discord among brothen, mine is archery, woodworking, hunting, eating, etc.
200 years ago you'd have burned me alive, die and I'm not guilty, walk away from the flames and I'm a warlock huh?
But there is truth we all have our battles - I just fight the ones that seem to be at the top of the heap first, like the bastardizations of Easter and Christmas that are so plainly obvious.
Its all about the heart
I'll tell you if the intent was there, TRULY there, then egg hunting would be of no appeal to you at all, in fact the whole concpet would make you want to puke because it has NOTHING to do with the risen Christ but rather pagan, man made material things that serve your purposes, not anything else but that.
Quote from Brad:
The Brad here is what you get in person. Hunting.net is a way to argue/debate and experiement with differnt styles etc. Gads I've been there for like 8+ years and how many user names ? It can become stagnant, so I attack things differntly there etc.
I show you scripture, and you only bring up you opinion. One either believes in the Holy Bible or they don't Brad.
04-14-2009, 11:18 AM
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 494
RE: The true meaning of Easter
I bet you trick or treat too don't you?
This whole statement i do not understand, i don't get what you are saying. Actually I do not understand if you are a believer or not. God Bless, i agree to disagree.
Dandbuck
I am a confusing person, no doubt.
I very much have grown hard to organized religions. I have come to hate the commercialism of Easter and Christmas. The two have become things they were not to ever have become.
I mean if you explained to the Apostles that in 2000 years, kids would be hunting colored, hollow, egg immitations filled with candies etc I am certain that would have befuddled them because it has NOTHING to do with Jesus and rising from the dead, does it?
Does it?
Well, it DOES if you trace the pagan lore and connection of eggs and symbolism of rebirth. I believe its a Jewish thing of sorts with salted egg? But what it IS today?
Nothing of it has Christ in it, does it?
Yet, make a post and get a bunch of heck yea's without ever thinking about it.
This whole statement i do not understand, i don't get what you are saying. Actually I do not understand if you are a believer or not. God Bless, i agree to disagree.
Dandbuck
I am a confusing person, no doubt.
I very much have grown hard to organized religions. I have come to hate the commercialism of Easter and Christmas. The two have become things they were not to ever have become.
I mean if you explained to the Apostles that in 2000 years, kids would be hunting colored, hollow, egg immitations filled with candies etc I am certain that would have befuddled them because it has NOTHING to do with Jesus and rising from the dead, does it?
Does it?
Well, it DOES if you trace the pagan lore and connection of eggs and symbolism of rebirth. I believe its a Jewish thing of sorts with salted egg? But what it IS today?
Nothing of it has Christ in it, does it?
Yet, make a post and get a bunch of heck yea's without ever thinking about it.
Next, does the Easter Bunny and eggs have Christ in it? No, of course not, that is why, IN MY HOUSE, My kids KNOW there is no such thing as an Easter Bunny. When we go to church on Good Friday and Easter Sunday, they know why. BTW, we go to church year round, not just holidays. If you are upset with organized religion, so be it. I am not INTO religion, i am a believer in Jesus Christ. I have gone to many denominations of church before I finally found a church where i actually get fed God's Word, and FEEL his presence when i am there. To be honest, you mention hypocritical christians (not by those words exactly), and there are a lot of them, to be sure. Try not to let that keep you from finding a church family to help you with your walk with Christ, we all need help!
I'm off my soapbox, like I said, i will agree to disagree with you, and you can keep skirting the question of whether or not you are a Christ believer. Heck, maybe you are just trying to get some people all worked up. I am not worked up, just confused on what you are really saying.
Good Day!
Danbuck
04-14-2009, 11:33 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
Well, I've always made a concerted effort to stay out of theological discussions (especially in the bowhunting forum[8D]), but I have to say that I've never understood the Easter holiday. To me it's just another day. Now before you startpiling wood around the stake and gathering stones, let me explain. Easter is pretty much accepted nationwide as a day that is set aside to commemorate/celebrate the resurrection of Christ, right? Now see? Here I was, raised in the Church, thinking that all those yearsthat's what I was going to Sunday morning service to do on all the other51Sundays throughout the year. Exactly why is this one different? Oh yeah, and why in the heck are rabbits and eggs involved?
04-14-2009, 11:51 AM
#26
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
Point I am making Brad, is your idol, on here seems to be sowing discord.
It can become stagnant, so I attack things differntly there etc.
and I do - doesn't mean its not true though does it?
I show you scripture, and you only bring up you opinion
show me scripture on the rabbit and eggs then - you can't of course. see, you're attacking character, not the issue at hand - I suspect because YOU were chasing the rabbit on Sunday too
One either believes in the Holy Bible or they don't Brad.
show me where its got Easter Egg hunting and the Rabbit then. You can't but you CAN trace the eggs back to the Pagan's that it originated from.
now, you want to talk about Scriptures and using pagan worshipping symbols and how that all ties together?
Ok, to answer a question, do i take my kids Trick-or-treating? No, actually, our church hosts a Kids Candy Carnival on Halloween evening at out local shopping mall. The kids come dressed in costumes, play games, get candy and other prizes, go through a maze, listen to a Christ based comedian or juggler, and just have fun.
sweet - so instead of using the pagan rituals in the community, you've turned the pagan rituals into something "fun" to do at church. sweet ..... uh, but there is one problem, you're still celebrating Halloween, just with a different twist.
Now that said, as Christians are we suppose to not do anything at all and isolate our kids and not participate etc?
The Chrisitian in me says yes, thats exactly what we're suppose to do. I mean, its not biblical in any way, shape or form, is it?
Bottom line, you want your cake and eat it too, don't you? You want everything that non-Christians do, and make believe Chrisitians do, but you want to self justify it so you can do it and not feel badly about it?
Right?
I just don't know that it works that way.
I'm leaving for home, my day is done. I'll leave this one alone, it doesn't belong inte compoundforum anyway
04-14-2009, 11:59 AM
#27
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
is it? because I view things differently its discord?
and I do - doesn't mean its not true though does it?
show me scripture on the rabbit and eggs then - you can't of course. see, you're attacking character, not the issue at hand - I suspect because YOU were chasing the rabbit on Sunday too
show me where its got Easter Egg hunting and the Rabbit then. You can't but you CAN trace the eggs back to the Pagan's that it originated from.
now, you want to talk about Scriptures and using pagan worshipping symbols and how that all ties together?
sweet - so instead of using the pagan rituals in the community, you've turned the pagan rituals into something "fun" to do at church. sweet ..... uh, but there is one problem, you're still celebrating Halloween, just with a different twist.
Now that said, as Christians are we suppose to not do anything at all and isolate our kids and not participate etc?
The Chrisitian in me says yes, thats exactly what we're suppose to do. I mean, its not biblical in any way, shape or form, is it?
Bottom line, you want your cake and eat it too, don't you? You want everything that non-Christians do, and make believe Chrisitians do, but you want to self justify it so you can do it and not feel badly about it?
Right?
I just don't know that it works that way.
I'm leaving for home, my day is done. I'll leave this one alone, it doesn't belong inte compoundforum anyway
Point I am making Brad, is your idol, on here seems to be sowing discord.
It can become stagnant, so I attack things differntly there etc.
and I do - doesn't mean its not true though does it?
I show you scripture, and you only bring up you opinion
show me scripture on the rabbit and eggs then - you can't of course. see, you're attacking character, not the issue at hand - I suspect because YOU were chasing the rabbit on Sunday too
One either believes in the Holy Bible or they don't Brad.
show me where its got Easter Egg hunting and the Rabbit then. You can't but you CAN trace the eggs back to the Pagan's that it originated from.
now, you want to talk about Scriptures and using pagan worshipping symbols and how that all ties together?
Ok, to answer a question, do i take my kids Trick-or-treating? No, actually, our church hosts a Kids Candy Carnival on Halloween evening at out local shopping mall. The kids come dressed in costumes, play games, get candy and other prizes, go through a maze, listen to a Christ based comedian or juggler, and just have fun.
sweet - so instead of using the pagan rituals in the community, you've turned the pagan rituals into something "fun" to do at church. sweet ..... uh, but there is one problem, you're still celebrating Halloween, just with a different twist.
Now that said, as Christians are we suppose to not do anything at all and isolate our kids and not participate etc?
The Chrisitian in me says yes, thats exactly what we're suppose to do. I mean, its not biblical in any way, shape or form, is it?
Bottom line, you want your cake and eat it too, don't you? You want everything that non-Christians do, and make believe Chrisitians do, but you want to self justify it so you can do it and not feel badly about it?
Right?
I just don't know that it works that way.
I'm leaving for home, my day is done. I'll leave this one alone, it doesn't belong inte compoundforum anyway
The scripture for chasing the rabbit and eggs in the yards, is in the same place where it shows a guy going out for his own selfish reasons with his 74 year old father turkey hunting.
think about it for a while. You'll get it.
04-14-2009, 12:14 PM
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
show me scripture on the rabbit and eggs then - you can't of course. see, you're attacking character, not the issue at hand - I suspect because YOU were chasing the rabbit on Sunday too
show me scripture on the rabbit and eggs then - you can't of course. see, you're attacking character, not the issue at hand - I suspect because YOU were chasing the rabbit on Sunday too
04-14-2009, 12:52 PM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central Wisconsin
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
Well, that was an interesting afternoon. Sheesh, what burr did he sit on all day?
So, he considers himself a Christian because he does not participate in Easter, Christmas, or belong to a church? That's a new one for me. I guess i just hope I read that wrong.
So, he considers himself a Christian because he does not participate in Easter, Christmas, or belong to a church? That's a new one for me. I guess i just hope I read that wrong.
04-14-2009, 01:08 PM
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RE: The true meaning of Easter
ORIGINAL: dandbuck
Well, that was an interesting afternoon. Sheesh, what burr did he sit on all day?
So, he considers himself a Christian because he does not participate in Easter, Christmas, or belong to a church? That's a new one for me. I guess i just hope I read that wrong.
Well, that was an interesting afternoon. Sheesh, what burr did he sit on all day?
So, he considers himself a Christian because he does not participate in Easter, Christmas, or belong to a church? That's a new one for me. I guess i just hope I read that wrong.
We have got used to his comments on here. And most of us usually find them comical.