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MichiganWhitetails74 02-15-2009 05:17 PM

Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
Tell me what you would recommend for arrow maker and also broadhead weight. I'm not looking for a huge discussion on KE just what you think a good set up wouldbe based on your experience. Right now my Whisker is set up for run of the mill carbon express or gold tip with medium shaft diameter. (But I'm willing to change whisker size...I will be staying with the whisker though)

My Alphamax 32 is set as follows:

70pounds
Draw: 27.5 inches
Probably will stick with my 100 gr. NAP Spitfires or Rage 2 blade

Fill in the blanks?
Arrow Length, Brand name, size(#), vanes type,

I will also be running luma-nocks.

THANKS!!!
MW


TEmbry 02-15-2009 05:42 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
I like my camo FMJs but everyone is different.....

I am too busy playing Duck Hunter to run the numbers..[8D]

TFOX 02-15-2009 05:58 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
Easton Prohunter 390 ACC with Tracer nocks.This is assuming a 26" arrow raw shaft or 26 1/2" true measurment.

I also prefer feathers and from the tuning I have done with the WB,I would use them with the WB as well,of course that would require some refletching from time to time but imo,the difference would be worth it.;)

Kelly/KY 02-15-2009 06:04 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
MW..same setup, I'm shooting Carbon Express Aramids 350s. Loving them. Although, the Easton FMJs were my second choice.

Best of luck.

Kel

MichiganWhitetails74 02-16-2009 03:27 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
Thanks!

MeanV2 02-16-2009 04:30 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
I'd definitely take a look at the Carbon Express Maxima, Maxima Hunters, or Aramids.

I agree with TFOX about the Feathers. IMHO they are the best way to go.

Dan

MichiganWhitetails74 02-22-2009 06:58 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
I grew up shooting feathers and want to get back to them...

Do you guys really see a benefit to going with the Aramids or the Maxima?

Educate me on the postives...I have read the specs on both styles...However my thinking is...Do I really care about getting the arrow with the most strength? In my mind set...I'm just thinking if I send a standard carbon express or a gold tip XT...if I put it in the right place on the animal..should I care aboutwhether my arrow holds up if I don't pass through? I know if the arrow doesn't breakon a NO PASS thru its going to act like a meat grinder...

I'm leaving myself open here...Because I do not know much about Aramids or the Maxima....What will it give me that the standard Gold tip XT won't?

Thanks GUYS!

Brian

OHbowhntr 02-22-2009 07:55 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
Varied opinion....

Unless you're shooting high level competition, you won't notice difference between .001 and .003 straightness arrows, and I think with that thought in mind, there are a variety of arrows you could use. I don't have my OT2 available, as I'm at work right now, but I believe that you should be shooting a 400spine arrow with a 100gr tip at 28" to be spined right (I'll double check in the a.m.) If you want to go with a SHORT 26-26.5 arrow I think you'd want a 125gr tip to balance out the spine a little better, and up your FOC to get a little better flight.

To me personally, the BEST arrow for the money I've found is the one in my signature which you would need a 55/70 series in. Fletch it how you like, but I'm not a big fan of getting stuff refletched too often if I don't have to, and BLAZERS, or another similar vane, would be on my arrows if I were to shoot a WB.

MeanV2 02-23-2009 03:08 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
If I'm cutting $$ somewhere it's not on my arrows or Broadheads. It's like having a match grade rifle and using generic ammo.

I think the Maxima series arrows are the best all carbon arrow I have used. I have used the regular Maxima, Maxima Hunter, & Aramid. They are all great shafts.

Can you get by with cheaper shafts? Sure! but I won't;)

Dan

OHbowhntr 02-23-2009 09:24 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
What looks like it should spine best will be a Maxima 250 with a 125 gr tip at 27.5", any of the Easton or Beman 400 series set-up the same, or an Easton 2-49 ACC, or the arrows in my signature (cheap only in price not quality) for $52/dozen raw shafts are the best bang for the buck I've found. They also spine touch more firm than a Beman 400 series, so you'd want an extra inch of shaft length 28.5 w/ a 125 gr tip.


Dan,
I hear what you're saying, but in all honesty, I don't feel like I'm skimping at all with what I'm shooting. I know most people wouldn't expect a Cabela's branded arrow to be comparable to the brand name arrows, but shooting them next to Gold Tips, Bemans, and an over-priced $100/dozen bunch of PSE Carbon Force Radial Weaves, I found that they were the most consistent of the bunch. And I've not had any complaints with any of the 4 dozen or so I've purchased over the last 4 yrs.

FWIW, I do shoot ST's I bought from you because I think their the BEST BANG for the BUCK as well!!!

Avatar pic is a pair of the Cabela's Arrows, one of them is still shootable!!! :D

MeanV2 02-23-2009 09:30 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
4 Dozen!! You must be Hard on arrows!;)

The info on arrows is just my opinion, and I respect yours. Just don't agree!:D

Dan

Sooner State Hunter 02-23-2009 09:58 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
AM 32 - 27"/65# 26.5" (shaft length) Beman MFX Team Realtree 400 with 100 grain tips and 2" blazer vanes. Total arrow weight = 401 grains. G5 Expert II rest. Paper tuned, walk back tuned, broadhead tuned (no adjustments needed) and everything checks out.

OHbowhntr 02-23-2009 11:30 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

4 Dozen!! You must be Hard on arrows!;)

The info on arrows is just my opinion, and I respect yours. Just don't agree!:D

Dan
I still have about 3 dozen that are in shooting condition, just different set-ups hunting vs. target arrows, 7 of them got the RH treatment, and 3 of those were just trying to set up new sights. The arrows I referenced are .003 straightness rated, and are actually quite consistent. Likewise I respect you opinion and appreciate the help, guidance, and products I've gotten from you, but these are seriously GOOD arrows for the LOW price that they sell for.

MN/Kyle 02-23-2009 01:05 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
I converted from the easton FMJ to the Beman MFX team realtree.

I love them.

TFOX 02-23-2009 01:10 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
For the record,I ran your setup through Archers Advantage and for great broadhead flight,the arrows I recommended are perfect for your setup.

MichiganWhitetails74 02-23-2009 07:21 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 
I appreciate your time and dedication..all of you guys..thanks...

Now ..another question for interpretation...I always get this mixed up.

You have raw arrow length and then you have REAL arrow length..

Raw = no nock? Real equals with nock? Right?

I'm going to be shooting the luma nocks (added weight)...I'm all scrambled now..I need to go back and re-read the posts...

I'm a traditional guy..I've never had a problem over the years with compounds....but I've always just added a half inch to my arrow....27.5 inch draw...28 inch arrow..I'm a mess...I need to learn more..from the reads..it looks like you guys are saying to go with a 27.5 inch arrow as well...I need to get out a tape measure and draw my bow in the man cave...I need to look at some things...stay with me...

I really want to learn the percision of all of this....I have killed many....no doubt...I just really want to learn more on this topic of balance and precision.

MW

Sooner State Hunter 02-24-2009 06:00 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 

ORIGINAL: Sooner State Hunter

AM 32 - 27"/65# 26.5" (shaft length) Beman MFX Team Realtree 400 with 100 grain tips and 2" blazer vanes. Total arrow weight = 401 grains. G5 Expert II rest. Paper tuned, walk back tuned, broadhead tuned (no adjustments needed) and everything checks out.
I measured my arrows last night and the shaft length (no nock, no tip) is 26" not 26.5.

OHbowhntr 02-24-2009 10:07 AM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 

ORIGINAL: MichiganWhitetails74

I appreciate your time and dedication..all of you guys..thanks...

Now ..another question for interpretation...I always get this mixed up.

You have raw arrow length and then you have REAL arrow length..

Raw = no nock? Real equals with nock? Right?

I'm going to be shooting the luma nocks (added weight)...I'm all scrambled now..I need to go back and re-read the posts...

I'm a traditional guy..I've never had a problem over the years with compounds....but I've always just added a half inch to my arrow....27.5 inch draw...28 inch arrow..I'm a mess...I need to learn more..from the reads..it looks like you guys are saying to go with a 27.5 inch arrow as well...I need to get out a tape measure and draw my bow in the man cave...I need to look at some things...stay with me...

I really want to learn the percision of all of this....I have killed many....no doubt...I just really want to learn more on this topic of balance and precision.

MW
If you're going to be shooting Luma-Nocks, I think that makes it even more of an argument for 125 vs. 100gr tip, to keep your FOC up. And I. likewise, add a little to my arrow rather than shorten it. I believe you get a little better flight with a little longer arrow, but can't prove it other than my experience seems to trend that way. Extreme example crossbow bolt vs. 30" compound bow arrow makes it pretty obvious, but I don't think you could prove a whole lot varying 1.5" on a 26-28" arrow.

MeanV2 02-24-2009 12:46 PM

RE: Need Advice - Arrow selection for my AM32
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr
If you're going to be shooting Luma-Nocks, I think that makes it even more of an argument for 125 vs. 100gr tip, to keep your FOC up. And I. likewise, add a little to my arrow rather than shorten it. I believe you get a little better flight with a little longer arrow, but can't prove it other than my experience seems to trend that way. Extreme example crossbow bolt vs. 30" compound bow arrow makes it pretty obvious, but I don't think you could prove a whole lot varying 1.5" on a 26-28" arrow.
I hear what you are saying Doug, and my belief is that the culprit is usually lack of FOC in the short arrow flight. I could be wrong as I haven't run that through any testing.

Dan


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