Guess I am too old fashioned and an elitist
 

The following was taken from another site. I'll keep my opinion to myself at least for now, other than saying does it really matter if its a monster buck or not, but I could not honestly believe some of the replies. Guess I am an elitist and too old school when it comes to bowhunting?:(

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If you had a monster buck sited at 100 yards with no wind standing broadside and completely relaxed and didnt think you could get closer for whatever reason, would you take the shot?

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I guess my first question would be with what kind of weapon?

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with a bow... I wouldnt even think about taking a shot. I would try to get closer, or back out and hunt him the next day. I'd rather get busted than take a 100 yard shot and probably end up hittingthe deer inits face or hind quarters. I guess some people might take that shot but i personally dont know anyone that would..

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I have a 50 yard pin. When I order and receive the new Octane sight I will have a 60 yard pin, when I went on an elk hunt I was zipping Muzzy tipped Beman Trophy Hunters, 70/90's into the 12 ring of a McKenzie bull elk at 75 yards every time. (Shot my bull at 33 yards.:D)


With that said, I will NEVER take a 100 yard shot on a whitetail REGARDLESS of the size of his antlers.

Maximum effective range is set by me long before I go afield for the year and the size of the antlers DO NOT extend that range.

I just wish all archers thought/practiced the same thing.

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If you take a 100 yard shot with a bow, you shouldn't be allowed to bowhunt IMO.I dont care how good you are, its too much of a risk.

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Most people feel its unethical because they are judging the shooter with thier own skills. I have seen folks where 100 yard is a chip shot. Well, actually only saw 1. For me, sure it would be unethical. I don't practice at 100 yards, I don't think if I did, I don't think I could consistently hit a 3d deer at 100 yards. I need to be able to hit something with a good bit of confidense.

There are folks on here, who I bet can't consistently hit a 3d deer vitals with trad gear even under20 yards, but they still take thier gear out in the field. Nobody bats an eye on here.

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Using a bow.

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But are they going to shoot at a live deer at 100 yards?

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[:-][:-] Hell I'd be leary about taking the shot with a shotgun [8D].

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I saw that too coug and you saw my reply. I am in2 archery as I like the up close and in your face action that archery provides. I can see guys practicing at 100 yds and plus for fun and maybe some freak followup shot(is it really ever gonna happen:eek:)

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I guess that makes me one too Coug!!;)

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I'm interested in some of the "other replies" you're talking about :eek:

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I can hit a soda can at 100 yards every once in a while.[8D]

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So are the same ones who might take that shot at a monster buck willing to take that shot at a doe or lessor in stature buck?

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That one is a no brainer, take the shot and you are crazy. Alot can happen during the flight at 100 yrds I dont care if you can hit nickels at 100 yrds, one half step either way = bad shot. Bad Idea.

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I can't speak for anyone else but my abilities wouldn't allow for a shot like that.

Like someone else said, the size of the antlers doesn't increase my effective range. Seems pretty irresponsible.

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When talking Coues hunting with some Westerners....I was told to just stay home if I wasn't prepared to shoot 80-100 yard shots, since any closer simply isn't realistic. Those deer are TINY and jittery, a 100 yard shot is a shoot and wish situation. I won't stay home, but I won't be shooting at those distances either. I don't have to take home a critter to have a successful hunt.

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Just In case I confused you Coug I was on your side.:D

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My dad and his buddies are proof that this Is not the case. You knew that already though.:D

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TEmbry, you are wise beyond your years:).

No confusion here Schultzy;).

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I'm really Not into Elitist attitudes. I mean No I wouldn't/couldn't shoot at a deer at 100 yards, butI get so tired of.............................

If you shot it over 30/40 yards you are unethical

If you don't hunt with a stick and string you are not a purist.

If you lease ground and kill a Big Buck it doesn't count.

If you hunt with an Outfitter it doesn't count if you nail a Big One .

If you don't hunt public ground you are not a real hunter.

If you use light arrows you won't get any penetration.

If you use a Cross bow you Suck!

It goes on and on!!

Sometimes I wonder how many varied experiences some people have.

Why doesn't everyone just admit it. If you don't do it Like I do then you can't be a good hunter.

This is not directed at anyone, but come on guys is this what we are really all about??

Dan

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Dan I agree with you to an extent, but I also grow tired of the anything-goes-mentality, specifically when it comes to shooting. In my mind it is taking bowhunting in the wrong direction. This is not directed to you bud.

Remember, though I flexible I am also set in my ways;).

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Dan I agree also to an extent with what you said but tell me this- What was wrong with what Cougar posted In his thread?

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I wouldn't do it nor anyone else on my land otherwise they are kicked off.....Oh wait that is my father im talking about. I know a guy that took a fifty fiveyard shotat a buck about 18 years ago and hit the vitals. It was a main frame ten with twelve kickers. As a kid I was thinking that was an amazing shot for that time. Take the technology back then I would say a fifty yard shot 18 years ago would equal out to a 100 yard shot today. I still wouldn't do it but some people do. The guy Im talking about is still one of the best hunters I know today.

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I practice out to 100 yds on occasion. The only reason I do is because I have enough room. I'm usually quite happy when I hit my 3'X3' bag target. And I mean anywhere on that target not any particular ring.I swear it moves on me. In reality I shoot about a 1' group. I might try field archery and get my butt whipped by those guys that know what they are doing but toshoot at any animal at that distance is not something I'll try.

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Doesn't matter if you are shooting a live animal at 100 yards or 15. If you can't look at someone and say you can hit the vitals every time, you shouldn't be using that weapon at those distances.

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I learned how to shoot from Dave Barndsale. He has won multiple tournaments in his life, including Vegas. He can shoot at 100 yards just like it is 20 yards, but even he stressed to me as a young kid to NEVER EVER take that kind of shot on alive animal. This is coming from someone who could make the shot. Just stupid IMO to even comtemplate it.

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Those whose ethics change with the size of the animal have not ethics at all.

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Come on now Mark!! I have a hard time believing that you never miss when practicing at 15 yards with your longbow.;)

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Sure I do. Or have. But right now, if someone came and bet me 1000 dollars on if I could hit9 out10 arrows anywhere 18 yards or under on the vitals of a 3d deer, I would take that bet.

As I am sure 90% of you guys would shooting your compound at 30 or for some 40 yards.

BeforeI shoot at an animal, I need that much confidense I can make it happen. Thats just me.

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I couldn't agree more.

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Now, saying that, I have took shots I have been so confident in. I treated them as chipshots, and missed. It happens.

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Damn. :eek: