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RidgeFACTOR 01-14-2009 03:44 PM
MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Here's the Mathews Monster whoever would like to see it. Myself I'm a MAthews man and see no REEZEN to change from my "ole" reliable Swithback XT.

http://mathewsinc.com/mathews-bows-11251-44-ViewProduct-1473-324.asp

Vabowman 01-14-2009 04:47 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
yep.....that's a a rip off of the X Force.:D

Huntinman23 01-14-2009 04:59 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Vabowman

yep.....that's a a rip off of the X Force.:D
see that is what I thought it looked like when i first saw it...

kdsberman 01-14-2009 05:04 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Nothin against Mathews, but thats definetly an "X-Force".

Vabowman 01-14-2009 05:06 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
when they first came out swampcollie told me they were an X force and now I can see why...same looking bow..

wingchaser_labs 01-14-2009 05:38 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Vabowman

yep.....that's a a rip off of the X Force.:D
Almost all companys have a solo cam in their line up so whats the big deal. Bows are bows andif you design it from scratch its not a copy so whats the big deal........ If you write a paper in your own words but base it off of someon elses stuff thats not plagerism and if you paint/draw something based off of someones picture or painting thats not plagerism/copying so whats the big deal about bows. WCL

BigDaddy12t 01-14-2009 05:47 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Yep, I would have to agree, looks like an xforce to me.

travis25/06 01-14-2009 05:52 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
isn't that bow made by mcpherson for mathews. i read some where because it is a dual cam mathews wouldn't take full credit as they r the single cam god

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-14-2009 05:54 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Almost all companys have a solo cam in their line up so whats the big deal.
They all have a single cam, not a solocam. Solocam is Mathews and you type that as though they invented a single cam? ;)

Ben / PA 01-14-2009 05:55 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
I like stating the obvious as much as the next guy especially when it comes some poking fun at a manufacturer that claims to be innovative, BUThaven't we been here and done this?[8D]

mondoman86 01-14-2009 06:53 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
When is mathews gonna edit that page??? Didn't the PSE get better speeds, and more efficency with a higher brace height? I think Mathews, or mcpherson same thing lol need to do some updating! lol

bowtech die hard 01-14-2009 07:38 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Huntinman23

ORIGINAL: Vabowman

yep.....that's a a rip off of the X Force.:D
see that is what I thought it looked like when i first saw it...
I agree also. The other thing I wanted to point out, and I'm not saying it's a bad bow at all I'm just pointing out the obvious....I think it's rediculous that mathews came out with a dual came bow after all the clout of " catch us if you can, we are single cam bows" That kind of crap kind of pisses me off, and the reason that I say that is because I know lots of mathews fans that talked a lot of crap about dual cam bows and how terrible they were. Bowtech made it work and I'm thinking that mathews is now a little scared and has to throw in a dual cam bow just to keep some of their customers from switching. Which is a good marketing strategy that makes sense. But it really upsets me that they were so anti dual cam and then bam there they are coming out with one. I was really upset when I first saw this bow a couple months ago. I don't know you can bash me if you want that's just how I feel.

mondoman86 01-14-2009 08:59 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard

ORIGINAL: Huntinman23

ORIGINAL: Vabowman

yep.....that's a a rip off of the X Force.:D
see that is what I thought it looked like when i first saw it...
I agree also. The other thing I wanted to point out, and I'm not saying it's a bad bow at all I'm just pointing out the obvious....I think it's rediculous that mathews came out with a dual came bow after all the clout of " catch us if you can, we are single cam bows" That kind of crap kind of pisses me off, and the reason that I say that is because I know lots of mathews fans that talked a lot of crap about dual cam bows and how terrible they were. Bowtech made it work and I'm thinking that mathews is now a little scared and has to throw in a dual cam bow just to keep some of their customers from switching. Which is a good marketing strategy that makes sense. But it really upsets me that they were so anti dual cam and then bam there they are coming out with one. I was really upset when I first saw this bow a couple months ago. I don't know you can bash me if you want that's just how I feel.
Thats the same way I fealt about it. They could talk the talk, but They couldn't walk the walk. They ran there mouths about how solocams were superior in everyway, and at one time I'm pretty sure when Hoyt came out with there cam and half. Mathews said They has previously invented that style of cam, and it was inferior to there solocam. They've claimed ofcreating everything that the other bow companies are makeing, and selling great. Now They have to eat crow, and start building bows that have some of the options They ragged on. Such as dual cam, split limbs.

wingchaser_labs 01-14-2009 09:00 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: travis25/06

isn't that bow made by mcpherson for mathews. i read some where because it is a dual cam mathews wouldn't take full credit as they r the single cam god
No its from the Mcpherson series made by Mathews. Matt Mcpherson is the founder and owner of Mathews. I guess technically all the bows are made (designed) by Mcpherson for Mathews... Anyways it is a Mathews bow and they are taking full credit for it right now the good and bad credits they have produced with this release of a prototype. WCL

fingerz42 01-14-2009 10:06 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Ofcourse its gonna look like the X-force.. to get those kinds of speeds they need preloaded limbs. So yeah its gonna look basically the same. Big whoop. Bottom line is I could care less about these speed bows anyways. I'll stick with my DXT.

Vabowman 01-15-2009 03:48 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
where did I say I cared?? I just stated what it was...it's a rip off of the X force...so what...I won't shoot it either way...but it is an X force.....you make the call.....

wis_bow_huntr 01-15-2009 03:55 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Just like Mathews to copy a PSE design...:eek:

Vabowman 01-15-2009 03:59 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
I like Mathews bows..I do not like the X force. Im not understanding why this is a problem for some..does it not look like an x force? does it not have very simillar design?

Western MA Hunter 01-15-2009 04:03 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: RidgeFACTOR

Here's the Mathews Monster whoever would like to see it. Myself I'm a MAthews man and see no REEZEN to change from my "ole" reliable Swithback XT.

http://mathewsinc.com/mathews-bows-11251-44-ViewProduct-1473-324.asp
I was justing thinking about that last night while shooting my XT at the indoor league.

LittleChief 01-15-2009 04:25 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
BUThaven't we been here and done this?[8D]
Too many times, and it gets really old.[>:] Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, and they have every right to voice it. It just sucks sometimes to read through a lot of juvenile babble, bickering and mud-slinging to pick out useful information in a thread that you're interested in.[&o]

I shoot a Drenalin, and I love it, but I have no allegiance to Mathews at all. It just happened to be the bow that I liked best. It's quiet, accurate, reliable, plenty fast enough and I'm deadly with it. Sure, the Monster looks almost identical to the X-Force.Who cares? I couldn't care less who copied what nor do I care that PSE has turned out a bow that shoots even faster. All I can say is that I would never want a hunting bow with that brace height, and to be honest, I think it's an ugly bow.[8D]

fingerz42 01-15-2009 05:19 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Ofcourse it looks the same they both have PRELOADED LIMBS. Thats why they look the same. Bow companies can only do so much, I dont think its that they copy one another as much as it is they can only do so much. Does the X-force have AVS technology? No, oh then it isnt a "copy."

Vabowman 01-15-2009 05:25 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
can I not have an opinion? Im not bashing any company..Im just calling it as i see it...I may be wrong, but it just looks very simillar.

NY/Al 01-15-2009 05:40 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Vabowman

can I not have an opinion? Im not bashing any company..Im just calling it as i see it...I may be wrong, but it just looks very simillar.
You stated yours and everyone else is stating theirs. :eek:

JeffB 01-15-2009 05:48 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
All you guys ranking on Mathews need to get a grip- I suppose you don't remember this entirely original creation from Pete Shepley Enterprises back in 1999 or so (along with the "absolutely not a blatant copy of the Mathews ultramax" PSE Carerra). Or the PSE tazman which was a direct rip of the MArtin Rage.

Vabowman 01-15-2009 06:25 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
never bashed any company...Ny, I was catching heat for just saying it looked like a rip off of the X force...this is petty dude, I don't care that they did it, just made the statement that they did.

Germ 01-15-2009 06:40 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
First it does "look" like the x-force. The cam system is completely differnent in the way it functions.
Most speed bows look like each other. To achieve those speeds takes a similar desigin.;)

Mathews did not invent the solocam, Martin did I beleive. Just like Bowtech did not invent Binary cam, Darton did;) Elite thinks they invented everything and then they get sued[8D]

DuncanVa 01-15-2009 06:51 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
hey guys im laughing right now at everyone saying its a pse x force...its the other way around!! McPherson sold the rights to the design to pse and made a ton of money off of it, now he's releasing the design into his Mathews line obviously tweaking it to make it better than the pse version, so in conclusion Matt McPherson is a loaded genius

LittleChief 01-15-2009 06:55 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Vabowman

never bashed any company...Ny, I was catching heat for just saying it looked like a rip off of the X force...this is petty dude, I don't care that they did it, just made the statement that they did.
Landon.... That wasalmost a contradiction in term.:D:D:D I don't care if they did or didn't copy the design. Oh yeah - I still think that they're ugly.[8D]

JeffB 01-15-2009 07:01 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: DuncanVa

hey guys im laughing right now at everyone saying its a pse x force...its the other way around!! McPherson sold the rights to the design to pse and made a ton of money off of it, now he's releasing the design into his Mathews line obviously tweaking it to make it better than the pse version, so in conclusion Matt McPherson is a loaded genius
And where did we hear this startling revelation? Local dealer?

NY/Al 01-15-2009 07:21 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Vabowman

never bashed any company...Ny, I was catching heat for just saying it looked like a rip off of the X force...this is petty dude, I don't care that they did it, just made the statement that they did.
Lmao.

Vabowman 01-15-2009 08:39 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
???????.........

shed33 01-15-2009 08:42 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
I want to shoot one, I've been meaning to run up to a tiny little town in Northern Idaho.. "Hope" to be exact and stop in at a little Ma and Pa bowshop that carries Mathewsbows, shoot the chit a little visiting with good folks and check out the "Monster" anything with that name I at least gotta shoot.. :D

MathewsShooter30 01-15-2009 10:32 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Mathews is the best[8D]

BowtechHunting 01-15-2009 10:54 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
Looks like a X-Farce.

bowtech die hard 01-15-2009 03:28 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: MathewsShooter30

Mathews is the best[8D]
Personal opinion I guess but where do you get off saying that?

TFOX 01-15-2009 07:31 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

Almost all companys have a solo cam in their line up so whats the big deal.
They all have a single cam, not a solocam. Solocam is Mathews and you type that as though they invented a single cam? ;)

You mean they didn't:eek:,their commercials tell me they did,they also invented the roller guard,according to the same commercials.:D

BigJ71 01-15-2009 08:11 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard

ORIGINAL: MathewsShooter30

Mathews is the best[8D]
Personal opinion I guess but where do you get off saying that?
Because it's well known that Mathews makes the best bows around.......didn't you get the Email?

That's not just an opinion.......it's MY opinion.:D:D:D[8D]

Does look like a PSE though.

Michbowhunter 01-15-2009 09:10 PM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

First it does "look" like the x-force. The cam system is completely differnent in the way it functions.
Most speed bows look like each other. To achieve those speeds takes a similar desigin.;)

Mathews did not invent the solocam, Martin did I beleive. Just like Bowtech did not invent Binary cam, Darton did;) Elite thinks they invented everything and then they get sued[8D]
I agree, although it looks similar to the x-force, the cam system is completely different, and it has other features not found on the x-force.

Also, if I'm not wrong, Bear Archery invented the Single Cam technology, which was sold to Matt McPherson, who now holds the patent.

twildasin 01-16-2009 04:26 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
I opened the link and saw a PSE X-Force:D

JeffB 01-16-2009 04:29 AM
RE: MATHEWS MONSTER
 
ORIGINAL: Michbowhunter

Also, if I'm not wrong, Bear Archery invented the Single Cam technology, which was sold to Matt McPherson, who now holds the patent.
You are wrong :D

The first "one cam" was the martin dynabow from the 70s (which I believe they bought from someone, but I could be mistaken) . It has a recurve upper limb and a normal compound limb and single cam at the bottom. Bear/Jennings licensed Matt's singlecam technology. Along with the sale of McPherson Archery , Matt then had the necc capital to start up Mathews.


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