New Record Elk Confirmed
01-07-2009, 09:28 AM
#11
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
ORIGINAL: Vito1
He paid a heck of lot more then that. That was just for his tag. He had 6 MossBack guides working for him and scouting for over a month. That can't be cheap. If he has the money to pay for it and it makes him happy, I say go for it. Would I do it...no, butpeople huntfor different reasons.
ORIGINAL: Talondale
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
It's an incredible bull though and being that it's been verified as wild I'm sure it was no easy task getting him on the ground even with all of that help.
Congrats to him. That's a record that's not likely to fall any time soon.
01-07-2009, 09:48 AM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
ORIGINAL: HuntingBry
I'd havea little more respect for it if the guy not only paid that money, but also came out to do some scouting for himself with the guides. Then again, a guy that makes that much money may not be able to get the time away from work to scout.
It's an incredible bull though and being that it's been verified as wild I'm sure it was no easy task getting him on the ground even with all of that help.
Congrats to him. That's a record that's not likely to fall any time soon.
ORIGINAL: Vito1
He paid a heck of lot more then that. That was just for his tag. He had 6 MossBack guides working for him and scouting for over a month. That can't be cheap. If he has the money to pay for it and it makes him happy, I say go for it. Would I do it...no, butpeople huntfor different reasons.
ORIGINAL: Talondale
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
It's an incredible bull though and being that it's been verified as wild I'm sure it was no easy task getting him on the ground even with all of that help.
Congrats to him. That's a record that's not likely to fall any time soon.
What is the difference (besides amount of money paid) between this guy and say a guy that comes out to Illinois to hunt with an outfitter for a week and shoots a great buck? I mean the guy that came to Illinois most likely will not do any scouting of his own (I know some outfitters do not allow hunters to walk), they go to the stand that their guide pointed them to and simply made the shot when it was presented.
I know there is a huge difference in the amount of money that was paid and I know this guy's tag allowed him to hunt some state ground (that I assume cannot be hunting normally), but all-in-all both case are very similar.
01-07-2009, 10:21 AM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
Guys, the governors tag programs are great for the wildlife, whether you are jealous of them or not. That 150K he paid for the tag at the auction ALL goes back into the wildlife, and goes a heck of alot further than my 500 tag would. If a guy wants to basically donate 150K to wildlife, I say why not let him hunt the primo unit?
His use of guides may have been excessive, but there have been no proven cases of foul play or unethical practices....which speaks even more for the bull. He hunted a few weeks for this animal, just as everyone else in the unit did (PUBLIC land). It wasn't a fly out, shoot, and leave deal like the WA governor's tag was allegedly.
I don't get why we would slander someone for putting their money to a good cause?
Money helped his chances significantly, but it certainly didnt buy this animal. It gave them the run around for several weeks, as well as all other public hunters out there. Some were beginning to doubt whether it would even be killed or not.
The difference between this hunt and a midwest whitetail hunt is on the whitetail hunt you show up walk to a stand that you have never seen before and sit and wait. This guy was out hunting the hills for a few weeks to bag the animal...different. Im not against whitetail guided hunts either, I hope to do one someday...but you can't deny an elk hunt is different than one.
His use of guides may have been excessive, but there have been no proven cases of foul play or unethical practices....which speaks even more for the bull. He hunted a few weeks for this animal, just as everyone else in the unit did (PUBLIC land). It wasn't a fly out, shoot, and leave deal like the WA governor's tag was allegedly.
I don't get why we would slander someone for putting their money to a good cause?
Money helped his chances significantly, but it certainly didnt buy this animal. It gave them the run around for several weeks, as well as all other public hunters out there. Some were beginning to doubt whether it would even be killed or not.
The difference between this hunt and a midwest whitetail hunt is on the whitetail hunt you show up walk to a stand that you have never seen before and sit and wait. This guy was out hunting the hills for a few weeks to bag the animal...different. Im not against whitetail guided hunts either, I hope to do one someday...but you can't deny an elk hunt is different than one.
01-07-2009, 10:31 AM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
ORIGINAL: Vito1
He paid a heck of lot more then that. That was just for his tag. He had 6 MossBack guides working for him and scouting for over a month. That can't be cheap. If he has the money to pay for it and it makes him happy, I say go for it. Would I do it...no, butpeople huntfor different reasons.
ORIGINAL: Talondale
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
That guy paid $150,000 to hunt that elk?!
01-07-2009, 10:47 AM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
ORIGINAL: rage2blade
Congrats to that guy! That is a major accomplishment no matter how much he spent. Like tembrysaid, the money is going towards good use.
Congrats to that guy! That is a major accomplishment no matter how much he spent. Like tembrysaid, the money is going towards good use.
I'll never get the opportunity at a lot of hunts, simply because I don't have the $$, but I'm not going to belittlesomeone who can.
I doubt if you were willing to spend 1,000,000 you could break that record, but you can try if you like.[8D]
Dan
01-07-2009, 12:13 PM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
Guys, the governors tag programs are great for the wildlife, whether you are jealous of them or not. That 150K he paid for the tag at the auction ALL goes back into the wildlife, and goes a heck of alot further than my 500 tag would. If a guy wants to basically donate 150K to wildlife, I say why not let him hunt the primo unit?
His use of guides may have been excessive, but there have been no proven cases of foul play or unethical practices....which speaks even more for the bull. He hunted a few weeks for this animal, just as everyone else in the unit did (PUBLIC land). It wasn't a fly out, shoot, and leave deal like the WA governor's tag was allegedly.
I don't get why we would slander someone for putting their money to a good cause?
Money helped his chances significantly, but it certainly didnt buy this animal. It gave them the run around for several weeks, as well as all other public hunters out there. Some were beginning to doubt whether it would even be killed or not.
The difference between this hunt and a midwest whitetail hunt is on the whitetail hunt you show up walk to a stand that you have never seen before and sit and wait. This guy was out hunting the hills for a few weeks to bag the animal...different. Im not against whitetail guided hunts either, I hope to do one someday...but you can't deny an elk hunt is different than one.
Guys, the governors tag programs are great for the wildlife, whether you are jealous of them or not. That 150K he paid for the tag at the auction ALL goes back into the wildlife, and goes a heck of alot further than my 500 tag would. If a guy wants to basically donate 150K to wildlife, I say why not let him hunt the primo unit?
His use of guides may have been excessive, but there have been no proven cases of foul play or unethical practices....which speaks even more for the bull. He hunted a few weeks for this animal, just as everyone else in the unit did (PUBLIC land). It wasn't a fly out, shoot, and leave deal like the WA governor's tag was allegedly.
I don't get why we would slander someone for putting their money to a good cause?
Money helped his chances significantly, but it certainly didnt buy this animal. It gave them the run around for several weeks, as well as all other public hunters out there. Some were beginning to doubt whether it would even be killed or not.
The difference between this hunt and a midwest whitetail hunt is on the whitetail hunt you show up walk to a stand that you have never seen before and sit and wait. This guy was out hunting the hills for a few weeks to bag the animal...different. Im not against whitetail guided hunts either, I hope to do one someday...but you can't deny an elk hunt is different than one.
TEmbry made a very good point about the fact that this guy did have "hunt" this elk, even if he had guides scouting well in advance for him. That is more than most can say for a guided midwest whitetail hunt.
01-07-2009, 12:28 PM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
I don't know if Iwould say he "hunted" the elk. I would say that he shot it. They called him one evening and said they had the bull located. He hopped on a plane and arrived at camp at 4 am. The guide took him out at first light and he shot it. That is the story I read as told by the man who shot it. This came after he had missed the bull2 weeks prior. Like I said before, he had the money to pay for it and he killed a phenomenal wild elk. Other hunters were allowed to hunt this area at the time he killed it. My hats off to the guides that were able to locate the bull for the shooter. The shooter does give all the credit to the guides which is honest of him.
I agree with kb, I don't see a difference in how much you pay for a guided hunt. It's the same to me. Somecan afford a higher price than others.
I agree with kb, I don't see a difference in how much you pay for a guided hunt. It's the same to me. Somecan afford a higher price than others.
01-07-2009, 12:46 PM
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RE: New Record Elk Confirmed
I don't mind guided hunts or paying for them. I'm not even commenting on the ethics of such a hunt. If that's your thing, go at it. I would do something similar if I had more money, and may do it still. But I'm a chea..., I mean thrifty and the thought of spending that kind of money to hunt ANYTHING is ridiculous to me. Of course I've also seenpeople slapdown stacks of cash on a blackjack table and I can'thelp think what a waste. Yes, thismoney went into supporting wildlife, and the charity aspect of it does help a little, and a lot of guys were employeed for the seasonscouting this thing forhim so some good was done but I just couldn't spend that kind of money, even if I had it. I also wouldn't buy huge houses,expensive cars, andexpensive clothes/watches etc if I had$10 Million. It's just me.