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Rob/PA Bowyer 12-17-2008 05:57 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.

TEmbry 12-17-2008 05:58 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Not me, if there is a gap big enough, Ill take the shot...but, I wouldnt take a shot knowing it would likely hit brush, that is just bad news waiting to be printed.

txjourneyman 12-17-2008 06:02 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.
That about sums it up!

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crenshaw 12-17-2008 06:08 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Not going to do it. I will admit in my youth I thought i could squeeze it through, never worked out!!

I wont even take the chance, Ill just wait for the animal to clear.

GMMAT 12-17-2008 06:11 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Isn't the bottom line ......whether or not you're willing to take a chance on injuring the animal or not......regardless of your head choice? Aren't both head types going to be deflected/affected if they make contact?

Its really then.....an ethics question on whether or not you'd chance it.

I say it depends on the opening. I've taken a shot through an "opening". I've turned down SEVERAL that didn't have one.

early in 12-17-2008 06:14 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
DT, that is themain reason I let this decent (for my area)8pt walk. He came in with a 6pt at 10yrds! There was a real small bush that was RIGHT next to him. I drewand waited for him to take two more steps that would have putthe front of him totally in the open. That didn't happen. He simply turned around and followed the route the 6pt took, and walked right in front of my cam.
There is NO DOUBT I could have sent my Muzzy through that little bush and still sent it through that bucks vitals. The bush wasright against his body. In other words, there was no space between them to make the arrow deviate from it's course. I just wanted the "ethical" shot which cost me not shooting that buck.



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early in 12-17-2008 06:18 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Aren't both head types going to be deflected/affected if they make contact?

Didn't he ask us not to make this a broadhead debate?:eek: And that answer is,probably not in the same way.;)

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GMMAT 12-17-2008 06:21 AM

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That's what I did with my post, EI. Jesus...lol.
I basically said the difference didn't matter!

And nice "pass", BTW....;). I knew there was more to the story.

early in 12-17-2008 06:24 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

That's what I did with my post, EI. Jesus...lol.
I basically said the difference didn't matter!

And nice "pass", BTW....;). I knew there was more to the story.
Jeff doesn't that meet your "pass" requirements?:D:D

txjourneyman 12-17-2008 06:25 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
That small bush may not deflect an arrow but what happens when the head hits a branch the size of my little finger? How much KE is lost? How much penetration is lost? What happens to that deer when you get 2" of penetration because the bush absorbed all the KE and killed all the momentum?

rybohunter 12-17-2008 06:26 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
If the brush is touching the deer I probably would, but I’ve never actually been faced with that option. . Otherwise no. I’ve put arrows thru some small openings, but as far as just trying to shoot thru a “mesh” of small limbs, no way. An arrow can deflect far off in short time.


There was nothing I wanted more on this planet than to kill an elk this fall, but I wasn’t going to force an arrow thru the brush in the hopes of doing so. Taking mere moments longer in search of an opening (which likely would have been found) cost me twice, but such is hunting.

Rory/MO 12-17-2008 06:55 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
I passed up a TON of shots earlier in the year, because either there was brush, or I didn't feel 100% about shooting. I look back and am glad that I didn't shoot when I didn't feel comfortable.

nodog 12-17-2008 07:13 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Practise it and then decide. One thing you'l learn is what you can and cannot shoot over/under and at what distance the object your trying to avoid has to be. With any shot I wouldn't decide untill I gave it serveral. I'm not out there to watch game walk.



Siman08/OH 12-17-2008 07:16 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
He is still unharmed because i would not shoot through brush.



burniegoeasily 12-17-2008 07:36 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.
That pretty much should be the end of this thread.

Don't Do It.

buttonbuckmaster 12-17-2008 07:58 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
I don't shoot through brush with a slug gun, I couldn't imagine doing it with a bow.

PreacherTony 12-17-2008 08:31 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.
That pretty much should be the end of this thread.

Don't Do It.
Absolutely right, Burnie ... I am not sure why this question would be even asked???:eek:......scary .....

hardcorehunter 12-17-2008 08:36 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
my opinion. u have no no business shooting through brush with an arrow.

daveyrock 12-17-2008 10:20 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Made this mistake and missed an eight point two years ago...I was hunting from the ground on a well used trail leading through some thick stuff. Had this guy walk right up to me, I mean you would have thought I was in a petting zoo no more than ten yards away the problem was he was behind some brush, even touching it if you will, I had already drawn and he stopped and looked right at me for like seemed like forever he finally turned broadside not being able to hold the bow back anymore I tried to find an opening and released...

Long story short the arrow did deflect and I learned a very valuable lesson...Don't Shoot Through Brush!!!

mauser06 12-17-2008 10:21 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
ive done it.....TARGET shooting. just to see the effects.

long story short, try it...youd be suprised. even tinnnny twigs can throw your arrow off a good ways...and ive done it with my target directly behind the twig...changes the angle and POI QUICKLY....

i wouldnt recommend shooting through anything with a live animal being the target.

Jimimac 12-17-2008 10:26 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
I'm surprised that this is even a thread.

Phil from Maine 12-17-2008 10:29 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Not a chance, I would rather let the deer walk..


That small bush may not deflect an arrow but what happens when the head hits a branch the size of my little finger? How much KE is lost? How much penetration is lost? What happens to that deer when you get 2" of penetration because the bush absorbed all the KE and killed all the momentum?
That's not really all to worry about. I took a shot once down an old road. There was a clearing with a big doe graising in it. A small branch had hung down slightly giving what I thought was a slight chance to bothering any thing. Once I let the arrow fly it nicked the branch. I do not think it bothered any for as far as KE went but it did cause the deer to jump. Fortunately the branch was just far enough away so the deer jumping straight up cleared the arrow. Now had it been closer and I struck the deer with the arrow. It would have been a bad hit and would of required alot of hard work tracking to recover it. I wouldn't had preffered that. So there is alot more to concider when shooting through any kind of branches.

The best advice is simply don't do it..

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PreacherTony 12-17-2008 10:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: DropTine249


I'm surprised that this is even a thread.
Why ?:eek:

I wanted to know everyones feelings on the matter, so I asked...I dont see an issue with it.
Do you honestly think that you might find someone who wouldn't think you would have to be a total moron to do that???

Give me a break.....

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Jimimac 12-17-2008 10:39 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249


I'm surprised that this is even a thread.
Why ?:eek:

I wanted to know everyones feelings on the matter, so I asked...I dont see an issue with it.
Because the answer is so obvious I was just surprised the question was even asked. I'm not busting your stones.If it helps some newbie, I'm all for it but I am a little surprised a guy like you who isn'tgreen would pose it.

PreacherTony 12-17-2008 10:42 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: Jimimac


ORIGINAL: DropTine249


I'm surprised that this is even a thread.
Why ?:eek:

I wanted to know everyones feelings on the matter, so I asked...I dont see an issue with it.
Because the answer is so obvious I was just surprised the question was even asked. I'm not busting your stones.If it helps some newbie, I'm all for it but I am a little surprised a guy like you who isn'tgreen would pose it.

precedent has already been set

davidmil 12-17-2008 10:46 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Shoot through brush, it won't work. You don't believe me, go out in the yard and try to shoot "THROUGH" a limb, briars anything. You more than likely will not make it most of the time. Arrows will be broken or lost, critters wounded or missed etc. I don't shoot through brush.... but I will shoot through HOLES in the brush, big difference.

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nodog 12-17-2008 12:28 PM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
My bow is very quiet. Deer don't here it. Shot a deer once, twice through brush. The first was a clean miss, the second won me a contest. It actually came back to see what hit the ground:D I practise the shot and before anyone jumps on this, ask yourself first, have I ever missed? I'd practised the shot during the summer knowing it would have to be made.

Ever read any Howar Hill books?:DHe's a guy I could hunt with. Even at a 50% hit ratio I'm still 100% better than him. LOL:DHe won a few things too.

"Man needs to know his limitations" :D

Ben / PA 12-17-2008 04:49 PM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
DT, just keep that Rage on the front and you can go through anything that is 8 inch in diameter or less. Brush, trees, rocks, its all good.

Cougar Mag 12-17-2008 07:19 PM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
Brush no way! A thin cover of river canes...yes at close range. Rattled in an killed a 7 pt. buck from the ground, had to shoot through a very thin cover of thin, fragile canes or weeds. But a big difference between brush and fragile canes. The canes were all but dead, brush doesn't forgive.

TFOX 12-17-2008 08:17 PM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
I have shot deer on the other side of brush.The brush covered the kill zone,BUT I could still see the kill zone.The key was I KNOW my arrow trajectory and I shot OVER the brush and hit the heart and lungs of the doe.She went 20 yards.;)


The situation dictates the course of action I will take.


Know your eqipment,know your limitations,know the equipments limitations,know trajectory and make informed decisions from there.

BGfisher 12-18-2008 08:01 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 
I see what TFOX is saying. Brush in the sight path and brush in the flight path are two different things. But to deliberately shoot "through" brush is totally irresponsible. I don't care what the situation is. And a leaf or two is not what I consider brush.

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-18-2008 08:29 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: txjourneyman


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.
That about sums it up!
You'da thunk it but here we are 4 pages later. :D [8D]

twildasin 12-18-2008 08:33 AM

RE: Shooting through brush...
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


How do you feel about shooting through brush, small limbs, briars and so on ?
Simple, don't do it.
I messed up once doing it and won't do it again!


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