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125py 12-11-2008 10:54 AM

Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
Has anyone tried using big lag bolts instead of screw in steps?? They are a LOT cheaper.If you have tried it does it work good and are they safe?

crenshaw 12-11-2008 10:56 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
I have seen guys use them before. Yes they are cheaper and just as sturdy if put into the tree far enough. The problem is taking them out. I move stands frequently and I like the screw in's better, I can take them with me where ever i go and use them for years and years.

YooperMike 12-11-2008 11:01 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
Used them, don't like steps of any kind really, but I feel safer on the bolts. Use Grade 8, this is very important, as they are the strongest you can get. Pre-drill your holes in the tree with a bit that is one size bigger than your bolts, put them in at an angle, slide your botls in, climb away. By pre-drilling, moving stands is simple, just ake the bolts out. With any amount of pressure on the step, they aren't going anywhere.

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-11-2008 11:05 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
Take your cordless drill and the right sized socket with you and they go in with a breeze. Mark them where you get atleast three inches of threads into the tree.8 inch galvanized lag bolts. The bolt head will help keep you rubber boots from slipping.

magicman54494 12-11-2008 11:10 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 

ORIGINAL: YooperMike

Used them, don't like steps of any kind really, but I feel safer on the bolts. Use Grade 8, this is very important, as they are the strongest you can get. Pre-drill your holes in the tree with a bit that is one size bigger than your bolts, put them in at an angle, slide your botls in, climb away. By pre-drilling, moving stands is simple, just ake the bolts out. With any amount of pressure on the step, they aren't going anywhere.
I have worked with lag bolts a lot. the place they will most likely break is right where the threading stops. I twist them off there all the time. I would want to get them sunk into the tree past that point.
I like steps because they are bent so the step part can bump against the tree making them a lot stronger.
I have snapped steps off too so be careful.

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HuntingBry 12-11-2008 11:17 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
I would strongly recommend against it. I know of 2 different guys that have fallen because of them. Fortunately neither was seriously hurt.

Repeated use can cause them to loosen over time, especially if you are a big guy. Tree steps are $2 a piece and designed to distibute a climbers weight safely. That is a small price to pay to make sure you come home in one piece.

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OHbowhntr 12-11-2008 11:23 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
I agree with Both MagicMan and Bry, I've sheared off a few Lag bolts over the years myself, and the design of a Tree Step is much better than a Lag Bolt for weight distribution, and that in itself would keep me from using Lag bots (that and maybe the fact that fully dress, I weigh close to 250#:D ).

GMMAT 12-11-2008 11:28 AM

RE: Big lag bolts instead of screw in steps??
 
Heck....how much does a grade 8 ....8" lag bolt cost?




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