Different fletching / tip, similar arrows. 60 gr. = 22 fps faster
#1
A comparison of two different arrows, the main difference is fletching and tip weight, because both arrows weigh 7.3 grains per inch.
Bow used: PSE X Force set on 53 LB 29’’ draw.
The bow paper tuned with both arrows at the same time, shooting a bullet tear with either.
Arrow 1: CX Maxima 250 with Blazers, wrap, 125 gr. tip. Total weight 385 gr. Speed 283 fps. FOC = 12% has 68.4 LB of KE.
Arrow 2: Redhead Carbon Max 2000 with 4’’ feathers, 85 gr. tip. Total weight 325 gr. Speed 305 fps. FOC = 11% with 67.1 LB of KE.
I shot four 3 shot groups @ 40 yards to compare accuracy:
Arrow 1: 3 in, 4.25 in, 2.25 in, 2.5 in. Average 3 inches
Arrow 2: 4 in, 3 in, 1.5 in, 2.5 in. Average 2.75 inches
The 385 gr. arrow is 22 fps slower than the 325 gr. at launch.
Accuracy at 40 yards is basically equal.
I used a calculator http://home.att.net/~sajackson/ballistics.html for the next part:
Arrow 1:
@ 20 yards: 275 fps 65 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 272 fps 63 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 268 fps 61 LB of KE
Arrow 2:
@ 20 yards: 292 fps 61 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 285 fps 59 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 266 fps 51 LB of KE
I thought some people might find this interesting.
Bow used: PSE X Force set on 53 LB 29’’ draw.
The bow paper tuned with both arrows at the same time, shooting a bullet tear with either.
Arrow 1: CX Maxima 250 with Blazers, wrap, 125 gr. tip. Total weight 385 gr. Speed 283 fps. FOC = 12% has 68.4 LB of KE.
Arrow 2: Redhead Carbon Max 2000 with 4’’ feathers, 85 gr. tip. Total weight 325 gr. Speed 305 fps. FOC = 11% with 67.1 LB of KE.
I shot four 3 shot groups @ 40 yards to compare accuracy:
Arrow 1: 3 in, 4.25 in, 2.25 in, 2.5 in. Average 3 inches
Arrow 2: 4 in, 3 in, 1.5 in, 2.5 in. Average 2.75 inches
The 385 gr. arrow is 22 fps slower than the 325 gr. at launch.
Accuracy at 40 yards is basically equal.
I used a calculator http://home.att.net/~sajackson/ballistics.html for the next part:
Arrow 1:
@ 20 yards: 275 fps 65 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 272 fps 63 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 268 fps 61 LB of KE
Arrow 2:
@ 20 yards: 292 fps 61 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 285 fps 59 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 266 fps 51 LB of KE
I thought some people might find this interesting.
#2
I used a calculator http://home.att.net/~sajackson/ballistics.html for the next part:
Arrow 1:
@ 20 yards: 275 fps 65 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 272 fps 63 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 268 fps 61 LB of KE
Arrow 2:
@ 20 yards: 292 fps 61 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 285 fps 59 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 266 fps 51 LB of KE
I thought some people might find this interesting.
Arrow 1:
@ 20 yards: 275 fps 65 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 272 fps 63 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 268 fps 61 LB of KE
Arrow 2:
@ 20 yards: 292 fps 61 LB of KE
@ 30 yards: 285 fps 59 LB of KE
@ 40 yards: 266 fps 51 LB of KE
I thought some people might find this interesting.
#3
ORIGINAL: MO_Bowhnter
Another reason to bump up arrow weight...look at all that extra downrange KE.
Another reason to bump up arrow weight...look at all that extra downrange KE.
#4
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
To me, thats a no brainer.
#6
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
#7
i'll stick to my 100gr. heads....remember back in the day when we thought 210fps. would never be topped??
....damn, I'm getting old.....[&o]
....damn, I'm getting old.....[&o]
#8
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
It's a good to see the downrange result of using a lighter arrow.
Feather fletching will cost KE at a distance versus vanes on an arrow where weight is otherwise equal.
Of course if someone is restricted to 20 yard shots it won't make as much difference.
#9
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
Take a tip from the trad world, go with more weight for hunting. My slow longbows shoot the heaviest arrows. I try to tune an arrow to around 650 grain for my longbows that pull60+lbs @ 28". And at leat 500+ with weights below 55lbs @ 28".
#10
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
ORIGINAL: im ocd
Right.
It's a good to see the downrange result of using a lighter arrow.
Feather fletching will cost KE at a distance versus vanes on an arrow where weight is otherwise equal.
Of course if someone is restricted to 20 yard shots it won't make as much difference.
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
That extra 60 grns gives you the same KE at 40 yards that your lighter arrow produces at 20 yards...all else equal.
To me, thats a no brainer.
It's a good to see the downrange result of using a lighter arrow.
Feather fletching will cost KE at a distance versus vanes on an arrow where weight is otherwise equal.
Of course if someone is restricted to 20 yard shots it won't make as much difference.


