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My horse looks just like this one. Doesn't everyones?

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So feeding someone who doesn't have enough to eat, is disrespectful to the animal I killed in order to do so?????
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Of course it is rybo!! Don't you know anything[:o][&:]:D

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Where did you get that number from?:eek:;)

But yes, I do not treat a deer like a Godly creature. What I mean is, well I guess if I thought about them like that, then I wouldn't kill them. This is a hard one for me to answer.

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Ryan,

I've consultedwith the sacred tarsal gland. You are right. These guys are creepy.:D

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I also respect the animal enough to try to make sure the animal doesnt suffer anymore than necessary other than that its food to me.

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Ok, rybo, let me give you two real life scenerios I just witnessed this week. And you can see where I am coming from

One, I am hunting with a guy who does not eat deer meat, and won't even try. But strangely enough, he loves to hunt. So he has had a bad year, and not killed yet. So one night his luck turns, and arrows a 4 pt. But he doesn't stop there, he shoots a 5pt. While in the truck on the way home, he explains I can have these deer. I explain, my freezer is about full, and told him to enjoy these deer. And besides, he busted the pee bag on the meat on one and the gall bladder on another. What does he care. He gets mad and asks, "what am I going to do with em". I tell him, he should eat them and ask him why heshot em. He explains, "I wanted to get some deer under my belt so I can say I actually killed one this year". Well, all the butchers HFTHin the area are no longer accepting donations as they usually do this time of year. I have no idea if he found someone to take them. I told him, I will take the backstraps. And since i dragged them out for him, he agreed.

Scenerio two (three weeks ago), a person in my family is injured and can't walk well.And I have a feeling not doing well financially. Can't hunt this year. He asks me if I have some extra deer meat. I give him out my personal cuts,4 hind qtrs. I also offer him 20lbs of hamburger I freshly ground. He refuses the hamburger which chaps a little. But thats ok. He does a great job smoking hinds anyway. So I am left with 4 hind qtrs. And now if I so desire will shoot a nice buck or big doe.

Do you see the difference?

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BC...I'm not trying to stir the pot....but you're throwing the baby out with the bath water with those examples.

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I MD (I am assuming this was in MD)you need to kill two does before you can shoot a second buck. I am sure there is something here I don't know but how did this guy get 2 bucks in on night if hadn't shot any does?

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With "respect" in the thread...where's TDWW??

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Freakin guess? Another thing that ruined my day. In his defense, the second deer he shotwas wounded from the adj. farm. And he did have the decency not to shoot a largesymetric 6 that came under his stand and hour later. I will give him that. Bruce, this was sat. I can't say I ever seen so many wounded deer in the woods in my life. It was a sad state of affairs on the Eastern Shore.

The rest of thestory I didn't mention is, he got on the radio, and said this 5 pt is wounded. I got on there and told him, I shoot wounded deer if they have trouble walking, thats just me. That didn't mean I was going to burn my tag and take him home with me. Many more wounded deer came over.

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FYI, deer don't have gall bladders. ;)

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Really? Then I am very curious on what was in that long bladder about twice the size of a peebag that had muddy looking substance in it in front of thepelvic bone

Either way, it goes, I don't want it on my meat. Deer ahve to have somebile or emzymes to break down food I would think?

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That would definitely ruin my day.

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BigCountry,

I don't know about your buddy who doesn't know how to properly field dress a deer and who according to Bruce also violates game laws, but you are way off in painting such a broad stroke on this one.

Just like others, I have a farmer friend who has a lot of depradation tags and has ALLOWED me the PRIVILEGE to kill a lot of deer if I choose. My goal is 10. So far only 4. 30 days of season left. Doubt I make 10, but I bet I get another 2-3 anyway. I have given all 4 to appreciative families with more in line. While these are large families with limited income, I don't know that I'd call them needy or poor. I know they don't consider themselves needy.

I have no NEED to kill 10 deer this year, but I WANT to. All the meat is going to good use, but you are right it isn't about that. Giving the meat away is secondary. Satisfying my ego and the overall enjoyment of bowhunting is my priority. I have no SHAME in that.

So whats your point?

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My point is, someone asked for opinions. I gave mine, you gave yours. Well, actually I do not think you gave yours. Its that simple. If it steps on peoples toes, so be it.

You said it yourself and summed it up so well that now furthers my believe its disrespectful when you said "satisfying your ego". To me thats pitiful. But hey, how I feel shouldn't impact your point of view should it? You have to follow your own lead in life.

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I just hope that it doesn't run very far... so it'll be an easy drag!

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God put deer on this planet for us to eat. I respect them in the fact that they are God's creation, but I am not psyco about it. In the end, they are a rack on the wall and meat on the table.

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Newsflash-We all have an ego. Thats the inner mechanism that drives all of us to set goals and to accomplish things. There are super-egos. They tend to be counterproductive although a good number of the most successful people in all walks of life have been clinically labeled as such.

Then there are those who have very little ego. It is usually accompanied with a low self esteem, they feel like victims, and resent others who accomplish things. They are afraid to set goals for fear of failure.

And no Paris Jr., you did not step on my toes nor do I feel a need to seek your approval. We are just exchanging ideas in a friendly discussion. I respect your right toan opinion, I just don't understand it.

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BC,

Every doe I shoot from here on out this season I am going to donate to HSH on your behalf. ;)

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Why? What difference would it make inthe big picture?

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Excuse me Mr. Buck while I cut your junk off .....[8D]

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VERY good point Preacher. I guess I must respect the buck cause his personals ALWAYS get hung in a tree. Now if thats not respect!

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Big picture? If helping feed a family in need or a homeless shelter is not the big picture to you.....I don't know what else to say.:eek:

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Button, I wasn't replying to you. I am replying to rybohunter, who said he was going to donate to HSH on my behalf. If you don't know how forums work, I don't know what else to say.

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My family's donated 5 so far this year:)

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I had a one horned spike come in behind meduring the first week of bow season. He got on the wrong side of the wind and spooked out of there about 40 or 50 yards. He then proceeded to blow at me like 30 times over the next 10-15 minutes until he finally vacated the area. Needless to say the rest of my morning was rather uneventful. I was so pissed during his blowing episode that if I could have gotten close enough to that deer I would have punched him in the face, I'm sorry I know that is disrespectful but that's how I felt.[:@];)

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I've read through this thread and just have to say that IMO, it is very admirable for a person to donate their venison. Way to go!

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Dang, what a read.. LOL

As for the ? Rybo asked, Yeah I have a lot of respect for some deer. Not as much for other deer, kind of like with humans. None of which I would treat like God."Respect" for anythingimo is earned not given.

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I respect the animal and I want as quick of a kill as possible.I do feel bad to see them suffer and with every kill there is a feeling of temporary remorse if I have to see them lay there and kick or twitch. But its a part of hunting and a way of life for me.

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It is not about actions, but the intent behind them.

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amen!

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I've always been a fan of the silent fist pump. Sometimes a fist-pump in a downward punching manner with an audible "Boom!"

Not sure why "boom." There is really no booming. I say "BOOM!" anyway. I'm crazy like that.




I think this all goes back to the eye gayzer and the glamour shots dead animal pictures. Yeah, it's fine to snap a decent pic. But there's a line. When you're gazing deep into the eyes of a bloody carcass, looking like you're about to start making out with the goddamn thing - you've gone too far.

Although now that we've made a joke about it - it's kinda funny. LOL

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LOL@!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you noticed, lately???? SPOOKY!!!!!!!!!!:D

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Doesn't everybody sleep with their racks during the manditory 60 day drying period?[8D]

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I'm a big fan of boom too, but I go a little further with "Boom goes the dynamite!" At the same time I put both fists over my head and shake my ass....just a little.

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I think having the confidence in yourself and your equipement to make a good clean kill. Waiting for a good shot angle. Enjoying a min in the stand after a good shot, making a fun game of connect the red dots on the blood trail, getting to your animal looking it over soaking up the enjoyment. Enjoying venison on the dinner table. A good pic or two is also a plus. Thats about as far as respect goes for me.

As far as the killing of more animals than you or your family can eat. I have no problem with it as long as it is legal, and the meat is completely utilized in some form or fashion.

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Uhhhh...... that's not your ass you're shaking buddy.

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x2.............