Scent Blocker/Scent Lok...
07-09-2010, 05:31 AM
#42
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Heaven IA USA
Posts: 2,597
So for those of us that do not use carbon clothing and have similar experiences with deer down wind, yes even when hunting on the ground, how do we explain that? It can't be the Scent Blocker clothing because we are not wearing any. Yet if we had it on, perhaps it would lead one to believe that the reason for not being winded was indeed the Scent Blocker/ Scent-Loc garment.
When I see the "professional hunters" on these programs one after another, echoing the Scent Blocker/Scent-Loc propaganda almost word for word, it causes me to just shake my head. As a child there was a wonderful story that I was told that carries with it life lessons applicable even to this day. Originally written by Hans Christian Andersen the jist of the story goes like this:
An Emperor who cares for nothing but his wardrobe hires two weavers who promise him the finest suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "just hopelessly stupid". The Emperor cannot see the cloth himself, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing unfit for his position or stupid; his ministers do the same. When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they dress him in mime and the Emperor then marches in procession before his subjects. A child in the crowd not knowing any better, calls out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but holds himself up proudly and continues the procession.
In my opinion Shultz and Scent Blocker made a marketing decision and settled. It has little or nothing to do with the truth.
When I see the "professional hunters" on these programs one after another, echoing the Scent Blocker/Scent-Loc propaganda almost word for word, it causes me to just shake my head. As a child there was a wonderful story that I was told that carries with it life lessons applicable even to this day. Originally written by Hans Christian Andersen the jist of the story goes like this:
An Emperor who cares for nothing but his wardrobe hires two weavers who promise him the finest suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "just hopelessly stupid". The Emperor cannot see the cloth himself, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing unfit for his position or stupid; his ministers do the same. When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they dress him in mime and the Emperor then marches in procession before his subjects. A child in the crowd not knowing any better, calls out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all. The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but holds himself up proudly and continues the procession.
In my opinion Shultz and Scent Blocker made a marketing decision and settled. It has little or nothing to do with the truth.
07-21-2010, 09:27 AM
#44
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 349
Has anyone heard anything about this?
Quote:
"I guess you saw the superior statement from Scent Blocker. That statement earned then a lawsuit in Minnesota. They essential laughed in the face of the court. On June 23,2010 a new lawsuit was filed against them im Minnesota District court.(0:2010cv02584)."
Quote:
"I guess you saw the superior statement from Scent Blocker. That statement earned then a lawsuit in Minnesota. They essential laughed in the face of the court. On June 23,2010 a new lawsuit was filed against them im Minnesota District court.(0:2010cv02584)."
07-21-2010, 05:11 PM
#45
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
So for those of us that do not use carbon clothing and have similar experiences with deer down wind, yes even when hunting on the ground, how do we explain that? It can't be the Scent Blocker clothing because we are not wearing any. Yet if we had it on, perhaps it would lead one to believe that the reason for not being winded was indeed the Scent Blocker/ Scent-Loc garment.
When I see the "professional hunters" on these programs one after another,h.
When I see the "professional hunters" on these programs one after another,h.
Anyways how could you ever tell if "you've never seen more deer" if there is nothing to compare it too. You beef is with the tube. Stop paying to be insulted and turn if off. The suit works on the same principle as a chem suit and they work.
You wear rubber boots?
07-21-2010, 05:15 PM
#46
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
Has anyone heard anything about this?
Quote:
"I guess you saw the superior statement from Scent Blocker. That statement earned then a lawsuit in Minnesota. They essential laughed in the face of the court. On June 23,2010 a new lawsuit was filed against them im Minnesota District court.(0:2010cv02584)."
Quote:
"I guess you saw the superior statement from Scent Blocker. That statement earned then a lawsuit in Minnesota. They essential laughed in the face of the court. On June 23,2010 a new lawsuit was filed against them im Minnesota District court.(0:2010cv02584)."
07-22-2010, 03:43 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Heaven IA USA
Posts: 2,597
You wear rubber boots?
09-01-2010, 09:47 AM
#48
Spike
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2
More positive news for Scent Blocker. Works as claimed and even better that other Scent Elimination.
Highlights of Court Findings:
9). The parties further stipulate that Robinson’s carbon-embedded clothing contains substantially more carbon and uses a different application process than other carbon-embedded hunting clothing products currently on the market.
Robinson has produced evidence of expert testing that establishes that its garments containing activated carbon are effective at blocking the transmission of odor through the garments and the amount of carbon used and the process by which the carbon is embedded in the liner of the hunting clothing makes the odor- blocking ability of the Robinson products more effective at reducing human odor than other hunting garments containing carbon as well as non-carbon hunting garments.
10). *Robinson has provided evidence of expert testing that establishes that, after washing and drying, its carbon fabrics continue to be effective at reducing odor permeation.
11). *Robinson has provided expert testing that shows that after washing and drying its carbon fabrics are “reactivated” and such clothing is restored to some extent for continued beneficial use.
Testing and Federal Court Ruling all here.
http://www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/NEWS/Robinson_Outdoors_Court_Finding.shtml
Highlights of Court Findings:
9). The parties further stipulate that Robinson’s carbon-embedded clothing contains substantially more carbon and uses a different application process than other carbon-embedded hunting clothing products currently on the market.
Robinson has produced evidence of expert testing that establishes that its garments containing activated carbon are effective at blocking the transmission of odor through the garments and the amount of carbon used and the process by which the carbon is embedded in the liner of the hunting clothing makes the odor- blocking ability of the Robinson products more effective at reducing human odor than other hunting garments containing carbon as well as non-carbon hunting garments.
10). *Robinson has provided evidence of expert testing that establishes that, after washing and drying, its carbon fabrics continue to be effective at reducing odor permeation.
11). *Robinson has provided expert testing that shows that after washing and drying its carbon fabrics are “reactivated” and such clothing is restored to some extent for continued beneficial use.
Testing and Federal Court Ruling all here.
http://www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/NEWS/Robinson_Outdoors_Court_Finding.shtml
09-01-2010, 09:53 AM
#49
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SE Ohio
Posts: 2,531
Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, but I, after this season, believe ALL of the "scent eliminating" products to be a joke. They don't work!!! Don't waste your money!!! For one, Scent Blocker/Scent Lok say to put clothes into dryer to "Re-Activate".... NOT POSSIBLE that any dryer can get hot enough to re-activate, activated carbon.
I saw one thing while at the local hunting store that made me think, WTF>>> Dead Down Wind had scent eliminating chapstick! That was when I went back to basics and looked back at everything I have learned in the past and started hunting the wind, instead of "HUNTING 360". Needless to say my season went much better after that.
I ended up getting this buck and was proud as hell to get him after all of my troubles this year. (Corn was up WAY too late). I passed up on many animals that were bigger than him but am overall VERY happy with the the way this one hunt turned out!!!
Back to the subject of the thread... I had soooo much frusteration by buying the"scent eliminating" gear this year, then getting busted/not seeing much, that I went back to what I learned just beginning bowhunting. HUNT THE WIND.That is the most important aspect to archery hunting. If you want to get close, they need to be upwinfof you.
I was all into the shoot nothing less than 130-140in class min buck too, but then realized alot of the deer I was getting on trailcam were not going to fit into my schedule of being able to hunt, so I am very happy with what I got. Congrats to all of HNI's members this season on their harvest!!
I saw one thing while at the local hunting store that made me think, WTF>>> Dead Down Wind had scent eliminating chapstick! That was when I went back to basics and looked back at everything I have learned in the past and started hunting the wind, instead of "HUNTING 360". Needless to say my season went much better after that.
I ended up getting this buck and was proud as hell to get him after all of my troubles this year. (Corn was up WAY too late). I passed up on many animals that were bigger than him but am overall VERY happy with the the way this one hunt turned out!!!
Back to the subject of the thread... I had soooo much frusteration by buying the"scent eliminating" gear this year, then getting busted/not seeing much, that I went back to what I learned just beginning bowhunting. HUNT THE WIND.That is the most important aspect to archery hunting. If you want to get close, they need to be upwinfof you.
I was all into the shoot nothing less than 130-140in class min buck too, but then realized alot of the deer I was getting on trailcam were not going to fit into my schedule of being able to hunt, so I am very happy with what I got. Congrats to all of HNI's members this season on their harvest!!
09-01-2010, 09:55 AM
#50
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 205
All activated carbon is is charcoal, hell you can buy a gallon tub for 30 bucks, just sew some pockets into your under arms and load up. But seriously the main cause of odor is perspiration and your breath, gum o flage and orderless deodorant take care of that.