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You werent feeling it, you made the right call!
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ORIGINAL: DropTine249 because we need a deer on film ? |
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Didn't you have cameraman troubles earlier in the year too?
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You don't have to be hunting with a cameraman......;)
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you did the right thing!
i see so many times people on tv shoot small 3.5 yr old that they normally would not shoot just to make a tv show.I understand its business for them but boy am I glad I dont have to shoot under my standards for a film. Good job again! |
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Who's running this show?
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Just curious what a good camera man earns??It seems like a job without much gloryrequiring morework than the hunter puts in. Why does a guy sit in a tree for 10 hours just to watch someone else shoot? It can't be the bennies..
I know the names of an awful lot of professional hunters but can't recollect even hearing the name of a good film guy. It must be very complicated to do their job well and it must be tough finding a good one. |
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You work in very close quarters with a guy your not very happy with and sharing the same tree all day long must suck. It must really get tough this late in the season with all the time and effort involved.
I hope to see a little footage in the near future DropTine.  |
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Dude your production company needs to go, I am guessing it is there camera guy and I would tell them he is
not aloud on your property again. Your land your rules....they dont like it see ya. He is there to film period. |
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Though I think you are gonna get honest answers here, how many of those are relavent to your situation? Meaning...how many guys here are involved in producing hunts? Until you are actually involved in production (ie - have your own money at stake), it is hard to relate.
My honest answers: 1. If the owners really stated no 2.5 yr old harvests, and now they are changing their course and being harsh about it, then you are involved with the wrong company. 2. If you can't get along with the idea of "needing a kill on video", then you oughta rethink being involved with a production company.My prostaffhavepassed some deer that I have not been happy about in the past. 3. There's nothing wrong with someone shooting a 2.5 yr old on or off camera if they so choose just like there is nothing wrong with choosing to pass those deer. |
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ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low Though I think you are gonna get honest answers here, how many of those are relavent to your situation? Meaning...how many guys here are involved in producing hunts? Until you are actually involved in production (ie - have your own money at stake), it is hard to relate. My honest answers: 1. If the owners really stated no 2.5 yr old harvests, and now they are changing their course and being harsh about it, then you are involved with the wrong company. 2. If you can't get along with the idea of "needing a kill on video", then you oughta rethink being involved with a production company. My prostaff have passed some deer that I have not been happy about in the past. 3. There's nothing wrong with someone shooting a 2.5 yr old on or off camera if they so choose just like there is nothing wrong with choosing to pass those deer. If you were hunting someone elses's land would you care if you shot that same buck? On the cameraman....I could not hunt with someone I did not like. In this case, if you do like him... I think he made the right call into being a bit upset. If sounds like he is in it for the business reasons. Good luck however it plays out. I would love to see the vids at some point. |
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As much as I enjoy good hunting video's,I find it kinda sad that harvesting these animals has become such a business for so many. I think that we get so caught up in the hype of these videos that many hunters expect to go out and see big bucks on a regular basis. I find it a bit refreshing to see how it really is in the field. It's a struggle to get a mature buck in range. It's reality and people can relate to that.In saying that, if I were you, I would not comprimise my standards. If you don't want to take a 2.5 yr old buck, then you should let him walk. If they get pissed, then they can find another property to film on.
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ORIGINAL: DropTine249 Planter. This cameraman isnt JUST a cameraman, he is also a hunter. We all film and we all hunt, he is just the best at operating the camera, because it is his and he has put forth the effort to learn its functions. He does the most of our filming and I do most of the hunting, out of our 5 man team. |
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Wouldn't this buck be BIGGER than anything you have ever shot before?:eek:[:-]
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Your right,don't ever second guess yourself.If the camera man doesn't care for it,time for a different camera man!
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I let em go all the time.Check out my sig. you know what ya gotta do.
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There's more drama in this production co. than any soap opera.
Can you show me some more of you guys harvest photos, again???? I'd like to see what the "standard" is. |
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Seems to me a production company wants footage of deer being taken.
Also seems to me that all you guys are getting is footage of deer being 'passed' on. For as many deer as y'all seem to see and pass on, it doesn't make sense that something hasn't hit the ground yet. Probably I would have shot it, but I don't have the pressure of a 'production company' breathing down my neck. Also, does the company only have one camera and one cameraman? [&:] |
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What's wrong with having the deer on film without taking it? Cool none-the-less. Sounds like your cameraman needs to take a chill pill. Good footage one way or the other in my opinion, especially if it shows that you could have taken it and chose not to.
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I just thought of something, DT. Post up a link to the pre-roll footage. That conversation HAS to be a classic!
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Sounds like you need a new cameraman. I film for a hunting show and though my standards usually lower when it comes to shooting a deer on camera, if you are the hunter it is your decision to shoot or not too. the cameraman is cameraman, his job is to keep the deer in frame and get good footage. He should show you respect as the hunter in being selective, if spaces were traded then you should do the same for him.
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Sounds like a bad marrage. Divorce the production co and get back to hunting for fun. These videos are all too sensationalized anyway IMO. The best ones are the ones (if you can find them) that show everyday joes on an adverage hunt where you see spikes, forkhorns and an occaisional 120 or better. That damn Jackie Bushman started all this crap with the videos in the first place[:'(].
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Depends.... if you're married to the camer person or not.[8D] If you're married to them, you better shoot. If you're just dating... well set the ground rules now. LOL Tell the camera man to stuff it. You're the hunter.
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I think maybe you wanna keep that first word in the title of your thread, OUT of your threads ......:eek:
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OK, I read all the pages of this soap opera.You aren't really having fun. It is suppose to be fun. If it's truly your land, throw the bums out and get back to hunting. You said hunting is a spiritual thing to you and at the same time feel this need to become a TV star with production companies, films etc etc. Seems like all you do is have run ins with the others and especially the camera dude. Everyone wants to be a Lee Lacostie or Bill Jordan. At that point, hunting doesn't become MORE fun, probably the reverse. Very few partnerships in life really work out evenly. You got together but obviously didn't feel each others motivations out before beginning. You keep saying MY LAND>>>> MY LAND, and they keep saying OUR CAMERMAN>>> OUR CAMERAMAN>
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Sounds like somethingI experienced when I was filming my hunts two seasons ago..filming takes the fun out of the hunting. It changed hunting from fun to stress.
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The real question is, "what would you have done?"...and you did it. Forget about it and move on.
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Well, I can see both sides of the story and they both conflict with each other, and that's not good. Drop doesn't want to shoot deer that he deemed too small for a video kill. He doesn't want to shoot 2.5 year old deer. Absolutely nothing wrong with that!Having said that...that buck would've been his personal best,and it isdefinitely above average for New Jersey and therearen't many oppurtunities like this, especially when you're limiting yourself to only taking these bucks on video, so there's where I can see the cameramans side of the story.
Face the facts, New Jersey isn't a state where you're gonna have oppurtunity after oppurtunity of getting big, mature bucks on video like you would in another state. The ways and means of growing big deer simply aren't there. I wish they were though. If it were me and my land, I'd tell the "production company" to take a hike and I'd enjoy the fruits ofmy labor without having to worry about satisfying anyone but myself. |
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ORIGINAL: Simp Well, I can see both sides of the story and they both conflict with each other, and that's not good. Drop doesn't want to shoot deer that he deemed too small for a video kill. He doesn't want to shoot 2.5 year old deer. Absolutely nothing wrong with that!Having said that...that buck would've been his personal best,and it isdefinitely above average for New Jersey and therearen't many oppurtunities like this, especially when you're limiting yourself to only taking these bucks on video, so there's where I can see the cameramans side of the story. Face the facts, New Jersey isn't a state where you're gonna have oppurtunity after oppurtunity of getting big, mature bucks on video like you would in another state. The ways and means of growing big deer simply aren't there. I wish they were though. If it were me and my land, I'd tell the "production company" to take a hike and I'd enjoy the fruits ofmy labor without having to worry about satisfying anyone but myself. |
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everyone has to make their own choices.
"in the end you cannot say, Because i was told to do that." i know if i would have shot it simply because i was told i "needed to". I would feel even worse down the road thinking back. |
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