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dukemichaels 11-24-2008 05:31 PM

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Alot of empty opinions in here today.. huh?

I think we need to soften this up a bit.

Dannnng!

Vabowman 11-24-2008 05:33 PM

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I just thought Id throw in my 2 pennies about outfitters and whitetails..carry on Jeff...this is good stuff.. didn't mean to hi jack..

GMMAT 11-24-2008 05:34 PM

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No, no, no....Landon....lol. No hijacking at all. Just making sure I didn't get lumped in with your thoughts.:D

bawanajim 11-24-2008 05:35 PM

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I am really shocked at the number of people the place $$$$$$$$$$$ in front of their responses. Life cost money, you eat while hunting just like you do working. So many of you place hunting high on your life's goals yet never prepare yourselves to earn the money that serious hunting requires.
Some of you youngsters should dedicate more time to education and earnings potential than you are if you ever expect to hunt some of the more demanding species or locations.

TEmbry 11-24-2008 05:37 PM

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For me, I'd just rather hunt NA big game. Just appeals to me more....Africa is cool, and I would love to do it eventually...but that is waaay down the road. If I did go, it would NOT be on a high fence preserve, just for personal reasons....not knocking those that do it, just isn't for me.

Over seas? Id like to do a NZ Chamois and a Australian Water Buffalo hunt....other than that, I have WAY too much in states hunting to accomplish.

I have alot of goals when it comes to hunting. KY wise? Ive accomplished most of them this year....only lacking a bow turkey right now. I still hope to get a bruiser buck with my bow, annually would be even better:D, but my main goal was to get my first down.

My next goal in hunting is the North American Deer Slam with my bow, hopefully within 6 years but if time restraints make it stretch out so be it. For now, all will be DIY bowhunts (mainly due to money saved). Whitetail is done, next on the list is Sitka Blacktail in 09. 2010 is Mulies and possibly Coues Whitetail in AZ. 2011 is Columbian Blacktail and Mulies again. Any hunts after that is pure speculation, it depends on how these first hunts go as to where I go next.

dprsdhunter 11-24-2008 05:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

LT....

Funny thing is....right now I'm not interested.

What I find mildly irritating are the ones who would talk down or discount another's choice to go there.....yet they'll say nothing (or heck....even do it, themselves) to their buddy who pays $2K to hunt an animal that's ranging freely out his back door.


Yet it seems you dont mind talking down or discounting anothers choice NOT to go there or pay $2000 to hunt whitetails.

TEmbry 11-24-2008 05:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: bawanajim

I am really shocked at the number of people the place $$$$$$$$$$$ in front of their responses. Life cost money, you eat while hunting just like you do working. So many of you place hunting high on your life's goals yet never prepare yourselves to earn the money that serious hunting requires.
Some of you youngsters should dedicate more time to education and earnings potential than you are if you ever expect to hunt some of the more demanding species or locations.
One step ahead of you there man. I'm not going into pharmacy for pure enjoyment.;) Sure, I love science and that whole field of work....but if their salary was cut in half?...maybe not. lol

Not everything in life should be based on money, but nearly everything in life requires money. If one can still be happy with their work and make more money, what is the downside you know?


Like you said, hunting abroad takes alot of dough, god willing, I can one day down the road experience some of these hunts. There are cheaper alternatives for nearly all hunts though. Like you said, food is eaten no matter where you are, so a non factor. Get discounted or free airfare (or carpool out there), and do a public land DIY hunt....and you aren't out all that much money in the whole scheme of things.

Alot of guys will pony up for one or two new bows a year and even more in gear, but complain of how they can't afford to hunt out west.....most species can be hunted for the cost of a new bow or less these days, its doable...just have to do your homework on how and where to go.

bawanajim 11-24-2008 05:53 PM

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Owning your own land is another , While your young buy a home with land, or local undeveloped land.
Who wants to retire with out a honey hole they can call their own?:eek:

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-24-2008 05:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry

Jim,

I've killed 150 inch whitetail, yes they are tough to hunt. I have hunted my asre off for a zebra (any zebra) and haven't come close with my bow. It's all relative though. A 15 inch Mt. lion, a 20 black bear, a 65 inch moose. Pick one...they are all extremely difficult to hunt. I understand Jeff's point.this thread brings to mindthe old Meadowlark Lemon from the Harlem Globetrotters, remember him? Plenty of talent, no doubt about it... butman...the same game, same opponent, same court, same outcome...At what point do you switch it up?
Did you try a sack of carrotts? J/k I know they love them at the zoo.

GMMAT 11-24-2008 06:17 PM

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Yet it seems you dont mind talking down or discounting anothers choice NOT to go there or pay $2000 to hunt whitetails.
Your comprehension skills are mighty rusty. I NEVER talked down or discounted their choice. I'minquiring as tothe double standard some seem to harbor (in reference to one v. the other). I've only had to say this 3-4 times in this thread....including a few posts back.

PreacherTony 11-24-2008 06:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

So you'll pay $2K+ to travel to another state ......to hunt animals that dwell in your own back yard......

......but you wouldn't consider a hunt to another continent to hunt animals you'll never SEE in your home country (probably)?

What the mindset?

I can see me doing it, one day. Hunting the same animal with the same weapon will bore the hell out of me, eventually.
You asked why people are answering you the way they are ....read your original post Jeff. You NEVER mention those that wouldn't hunt Africa, judging those that would .... you kinda make it seem the other way around ..... why would those who spend money to hunt whitetails in other states NOT spend the same money to hunt Africa .... you went on to say how you would be bored just hunting whitetail with a bow eventually, insinuating that others are wierd that would be happy to just hunt whitetails


I repeat that hunting whitetails with the same weapon.....year after year.....will eventually (would) bore me to tears. I'll likely expand my horizons via different animals r different weapon (traditional archery tackle) in the future. I'm not slamming on anyone who chooses to hunt whitetails with a compound year after year. I'm just not understanding why people wouldn't appreciate an expansion of their hunting experience.

How many (________) whitetail deer does it take before you feel an inner need to expand your hunting experience?

NY/Al 11-24-2008 06:24 PM

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These threads are getting really annoying....[&:]

dukemichaels 11-24-2008 06:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: NY/Al

These threads are getting really annoying....[&:]
Oh just wait.. in about 6 weeks when all the seasons start to end.. it gets REAL interesting in here.

Lots of drama. Funny stuff is coming our way.

Can't wait to see who's on who this year. (not sexually off course).

GMMAT 11-24-2008 06:27 PM

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insinuating that others are wierd that would be happy to just hunt whitetails
That's BS, PT....and inflammatory, again.

Those are YOUR words. I never said that.

I even told GregH I didn't think he was boring.:) I said "I" would be bored. Don't read what I say and inflect what you want it to say. Just read it. I explained myself VERY clearly in this thread.....in case the original message was misconstrued. In fact....I've done it over and over and over......

1shotkill1993 11-24-2008 06:28 PM

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I would spend more money to hunt monster whitetails here in the states than I would going to another country to hunt.

NY/Al 11-24-2008 06:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: dukemichaels


ORIGINAL: NY/Al

These threads are getting really annoying....[&:]
Oh just wait.. in about 6 weeks when all the seasons start to end.. it gets REAL interesting in here.

Lots of drama. Funny stuff is coming our way.

Can't wait to see who's on who this year. (not sexually off course).
See ya next fall![8D]

bawanajim 11-24-2008 06:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: dukemichaels


ORIGINAL: NY/Al

These threads are getting really annoying....[&:]
Oh just wait.. in about 6 weeks when all the seasons start to end.. it gets REAL interesting in here.

Lots of drama. Funny stuff is coming our way.

Can't wait to see who's on who this year. (not sexually off course).

The seasons behind the fences never end, no licence, no season just a buck of your check books dream.[:@]

GMMAT 11-24-2008 06:31 PM

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I'm talking about guys who would close their minds and seemingly put down another's choice to hunt abroad. If you're Ok hunting what you like.....I applaud that. I don't have to agree or understand it. If you're gonna hint at putting down the other guy's choice.....that's being close-minded (at BEST).

BTW....PT....This is all the way back from page 2.....the last time you tried to flame me on this thread. I thought I explained myself pretty good.

PreacherTony 11-24-2008 06:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


insinuating that others are wierd that would be happy to just hunt whitetails
That's BS, PT....and inflammatory, again.

Those are YOUR words. I never said that.

I even told GregH I didn't think he was boring.:) I said "I" would be bored. Don't read what I say and inflect what you want it to say. Just read it. I explained myself VERY clearly in this thread.....in case the original message was misconstrued. In fact....I've done it over and over and over......
it's not inflammatory, Jeff! It's why you are getting some of the responses you are.... don't get sensitive on me now ...... you were NOT clear in the beginning ....admit it ... I agree with you on your clarification post ...but this thread is where it is because of the end around way you went about it ...... I still love ya, bud!:)

dprsdhunter 11-24-2008 06:34 PM

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GMMATT----- I think it is just a persons personal intertests in where/what they want to hunt-nothing more nothing less. I personally have no desire to hunt African game -why?--I just dont. I am happy chasing whitetails and yes I would spend money to hunt them elsewhere rather than going to Africa. My interests--my choice ---my money.
If you feel some day that you will be bored hunting whitetails and wish to go to Africa or hunt other game then I hope someday you go do it.

silentassassin 11-24-2008 06:35 PM

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I understand Jeff's point.this thread brings to mindthe old Meadowlark Lemon from the Harlem Globetrotters, remember him? Plenty of talent, no doubt about it... butman...the same game, same opponent, same court, same outcome...At what point do you switch it up?

When it starts getting old and or I start to lose that fire in my belly to do it. I am not knocking what you do. I think all the kills that you have is quite an accomplishment. HOWEVER I am on the other end of that spectrum. Shooting a striped horse doesn't float my boat. I would love to go on an elk hunt but at this point I would have to forego a whitetail hunt to do it and at this point in my hunting journey; big whitetails is what is what I love to hunt. Big whitetails are what have filled my dreams since I was a child. I don't have the desire to go hunt anything but big whitetails. When/if that gets old, I will look for something else to get me as exited as whitetails do now.

GMMAT 11-24-2008 06:37 PM

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PT....dang! How many times do I have to explain it, though?:D

thehairlessone 11-24-2008 06:37 PM

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not me!

rick

TEmbry 11-24-2008 06:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What I find mildly irritating are the ones who would talk down or discount another's choice to go there.....yet they'll say nothing (or heck....even do it, themselves) to their buddy who pays $2K to hunt an animal that's ranging freely out his back door.

To play devil's advocate....why would someone pay $6k+ to hunt Africa when they could do 3-4 guided whitetail hunts (or 10+ DIY)in different regions of NA for the same price as one african safari?

That said, I agree for the most part. I think Africa would be cool, as would hunting a 300 lb Canadian Whitetail. It's all about the hunting for me, I love seeing new places and chasing new things. Growing up in KY, Turkey and Whitetail are my bread and butter that i WILL hunt every year from here on out, but I love switching it up just as much....my taste of pronghorn hunting and out of state turkey hunting has me hooked. traveling on hunts is a blast.


Droptine, if looking to complete all species in NA...you HAVE to go to Canada. A few caribou species are found only in Canada.

GMMAT 11-24-2008 06:40 PM

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To play devil's advocate....why would someone pay $6k+ to hunt Africa when they could do 3-4 guided whitetail hunts (or 10+ DIY)in different regions of NA for the same price as one african safari?
I don't care which one they do......just don't make light of the other guy's choice or discount his accomplishments.

"Striped Horse" is a good example.;)

PreacherTony 11-24-2008 06:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

PT....dang! How many times do I have to explain it, though?:D
This is HNI :Dneed you ask? lol

It all goes back to the original post .... edit that and this thread dies ......

MichiganWhitetails74 11-24-2008 06:41 PM

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Anyone that thinks they dont want to move to another area is missing out. IMO

I'm in it for the experience..I've been all over the world hunting. I do it for the experience..it's like a trip to Florida with my wife and little girls...its the memory/vacation/ experience.

I hunt the world (not for just the kill) but for the moment and memories of something I have a passion for.

I told my wife the other night..."I said, Honey, I think I'd like to start going on white-tail hunts in various states. "she said, sounds cool.

I think it would be neat to have mounts on my wall from various states for white-tails.

To each his own I guess..

Now I just need to plan and find the $$$$ to continue on across the U.S[&:]

silentassassin 11-24-2008 06:50 PM

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Striped Horse" is a good example.;)
I thought you'd appreciate that;)BUT that's what it is to ME!! I am not knocking you or anyone else that has the desire to go shoot one. I'm just explaining why I have no desire to do it and pointing out that their isa flip side to the coin. You guys may get "bored to tears" or get tired of the "same game, same court, same opponent". But I don't. To me it's a whole new ballgame and a whole new opponenet everytime I step on the court. Don't expect to see someone "knock" what I do in explaining what they do and think that I don't have the same heart felt convictions about what I do versuses what they do. If at some point, hunting a striped horse begins to sound fun or challenging to me than I will go do it. Right now it doesn't, so I don't;)

TEmbry 11-24-2008 07:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
I'm planning on dropping about a grand or a little over this next fall to go hunt bears in MN with Kyle.
And hell, that is before the outfitter fee.

[:-]Do I need to rethink the whole MN bear trip....how steep are these fees?[&:][8D]

Washington Hunter 11-24-2008 07:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: TEmbry


ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
I'm planning on dropping about a grand or a little over this next fall to go hunt bears in MN with Kyle.
And hell, that is before the outfitter fee.

[:-]Do I need to rethink the whole MN bear trip....how steep are these fees?[&:][8D]
Bottle of Jaeger and a 4-pack of Monster better cover it. [&:]

bawanajim 11-24-2008 07:06 PM

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AS a child I killed most ever thing that crossed my path with a Daisey B-B gun. Today I havelearned that I should not

I have chosen challenge over excess. I need nothing more than my own happiness to keep me hunting,it is a seldom day that I could not kill a deer .I choose to hunt more and kill less.:)

Is huntinga giraffe from a tree stand really fair chase.;)

GMMAT 11-24-2008 07:06 PM

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I hear ya, Silent....lol. "Striped horse":)(Im just joking....but wouldn't it be funny if this is how the African hunters viewed whitetails?)






TEmbry 11-24-2008 07:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter


ORIGINAL: TEmbry


ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
I'm planning on dropping about a grand or a little over this next fall to go hunt bears in MN with Kyle.
And hell, that is before the outfitter fee.

[:-]Do I need to rethink the whole MN bear trip....how steep are these fees?[&:][8D]
Bottle of Jaeger and a 4-pack of Monster better cover it. [&:]
Doh! I was banking on a turkey call.[8D]....if I ever get them.[&:]


Let's keep distracting from the Africa vs NA theme, who cares really....You go hunt that continent and Ill hunt this one (or vice versa), both offer challenges, unique in there own way. Neither is more impressive than the other, just different.

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-24-2008 07:11 PM

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Vabowman 11-24-2008 07:13 PM

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Well Jim I guess it puts you both on an eqaul field of vision!!:DSave the Giraffes!!!

Oneshot7 11-24-2008 07:19 PM

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My mindset is the different environments in the US. They are totally different deer, and you can do DIY hunts that dont cost that much. Africa just doesnt entice me, at all. I hope to complete the NA slam before I die, just not the world slam.

silentassassin 11-24-2008 07:20 PM

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(Im just joking....but wouldn't it be funny if this is how the African hunters viewed whitetails?)
Jeff, that statement is really what the escence of this post is to me. That is to say, itshouldn't matter to Huck (and I'm sure it doesn't) what I think about shooting a Zebra because I am surehe gets as much satisfaction as I do from shooting a whitetail. Itshouldn't (and doesn't)matter to me if someone thinks hunting whitetails is boring or old hat because to me it isn't. All that should matter is that it's done legally and ethically and that the guy spending the dough is happy wherever that is.

Vabowman 11-24-2008 07:21 PM

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So Jeff are you saying you are bored with hunting whitetails in general?? Or just boredhunting them in your area?? Im serious, not being a jack ass here, I just really forgot what this was all about...

GMMAT 11-24-2008 07:24 PM

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VA.....

No.

Vabowman 11-24-2008 07:28 PM

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ok then that clears it up for me


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