The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
11-11-2008, 07:18 PM
#41
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central IL
Posts: 778
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
I have been seeing good chasing all this last week, only by small bucks about 1.5 years old until today. Today I had 2 shooters, about a 150 inch 9-pointer and about a 130 inch 10-pointer chasing a doe hard with two other small 1.5 year olds following slowly.
11-11-2008, 07:24 PM
#42
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: charlottesville, virginia
Posts: 1,732
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different.
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different.
11-12-2008, 06:12 AM
#44
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky...
Posts: 304
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
Be patient men, it's going to happen. But, we can't expect to see anything if we are not out there in the woods.
This is only 30 days out of the entire year that we can expect see big bucks and bucks we never seen before.
But, let's keep in mind that if we want to real conservationist, we gotta do some herd management and take out some does!
11-12-2008, 06:32 AM
#45
Bartender
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,634
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
Throw South eastern Wisconsin in with you Germ.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Because Iowa has a good buck to doe ratio.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
11-12-2008, 06:46 AM
#46
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Castile N.Y.
Posts: 2,090
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
ORIGINAL: peakrut
Throw South eastern Wisconsin in with you Germ.
Throw South eastern Wisconsin in with you Germ.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Because Iowa has a good buck to doe ratio.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
Hit the nail on the head there.....
11-12-2008, 11:20 AM
#47
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 721
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Because Iowa has a good buck to doe ratio.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
Check page 5 of the DNR handbook to get a feel for how our ratio looks: http://www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/08huntingregs.pdf
11-12-2008, 12:40 PM
#49
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Southeast, VA
Posts: 2,119
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
Rutting hard in va early in, if your getting frustrated switch it up a little. This week I slept in and hit my stands around 7ish, been seeing deer all week between 9 and 2. I wouldn't come out at 10:30 this weekbased on how they've been acting around here.
11-12-2008, 01:01 PM
#50
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: The 2008 Rut That Wasn't?
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
The ratio in Iowa is not very good at all. Only the Northwest 1/4 of the state hasa decent ratio while the remainder of the state is offering nearly unlimited antlerless tags to try to balance the herd and get the doe numbers where they need to be.
Check page 5 of the DNR handbook to get a feel for how our ratio looks: http://www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/08huntingregs.pdf
ORIGINAL: Germ
Because Iowa has a good buck to doe ratio.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
That's precisely where the rutting moon theory loses some of its edge. Whereas you haven't even seen chasing yet, the bucks here in Iowa have been on their feet and chasing does hard core for the last 5 or 6 days.Both locationsare in the same rutting moon phase, but the action is vastly different. I spotted a huge buck 10 yards from the road on the way from work yesterday and turned around and pulled up right next to him. He didn't move. There's only one time of the year a 150 class buck stands his ground to a human in a truck. I gave him a mouth grunt knowing his doe must be close by. Sure enough upon grunting she stood up from the road ditch she was hiding in not five feet from my door. She looked at him, then slowly trotted off while he follwed in behind. That's nothing other than full rut behavior.
Look at who is having issues
states like
NY
PA
MI
WV
Plain and simple to many does and not enough mature bucks
Check page 5 of the DNR handbook to get a feel for how our ratio looks: http://www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/08huntingregs.pdf
Your ratio my be bad, but it's the fact you have 3.5 and older bucks that make the differnce.I may have 1 or 2 in my area, I really think none right now. I watch Todd see 11 in one afternoon. That would take me 15 years to see in MI
