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bawanajim 11-06-2008 05:00 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT



That's hilarious.....lol.

Your line (vessel) WOULD run parallel to the rage blades......:D

I'm out. It's become ludicrous.....and I'm not even touting the rage heads!

Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.


GMMAT

With 2 axis being 1 1/4 you get that width on 2 planes. On a Rage you get 2 inches on 1 plane. you can have the shaft of an arrow pass within 1/100 of an inch of an artery and miss the artery using a Rage
Again......you're having to suppose the worst case scenario. Answer the question posed above.
Jeff,your killing me here the 4 blade head has a total of two and one half inches of cutting area and the rage has tttttwwwooooooooooooo..................

TEmbry 11-06-2008 05:02 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT



That's hilarious.....lol.

Your line (vessel) WOULD run parallel to the rage blades......:D

I'm out. It's become ludicrous.....and I'm not even touting the rage heads!

Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.

I was pointing out that it COULD pass by closer than a fixed 4 blade could. Sorry facts run you away from a debate.

I agree a Rage creates a much bigger swath and devistation...but this doesnt mean it automatically kills anything in its 2" circle, it cuts a straight 2 inch gash...other BHs slice the same amount of tissue, only in a smaller area...4 blades with 1.25" cutting diameter means it is cutting 2.5" of tissue with its blades. Why is having this cut tissue extended out on the end of two blades better than having it perpendicular from the two blades?


Answer this, if you put the arrow in the vital organs, which BH cuts more tissue while going through lungs...a 4 blade 1.25 cutting diameter or a 2 blade 2 inch cutting diameter?

WesternMdHardwoods 11-06-2008 05:12 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim


ORIGINAL: GMMAT



That's hilarious.....lol.

Your line (vessel) WOULD run parallel to the rage blades......:D

I'm out. It's become ludicrous.....and I'm not even touting the rage heads!

Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.


GMMAT

With 2 axis being 1 1/4 you get that width on 2 planes. On a Rage you get 2 inches on 1 plane. you can have the shaft of an arrow pass within 1/100 of an inch of an artery and miss the artery using a Rage
Again......you're having to suppose the worst case scenario. Answer the question posed above.
Jeff,your killing me here the 4 blade head has a total of two and one half inches of cutting area and the rage has tttttwwwooooooooooooo..................

Haha I can see it...you can see it....tembry can see it...a blind man can see it....???

Are the Rage cuts impressive??? Heck Yes
The point of the thread is to see what the widest cutting fixed head is.... and now we are comparing to Rage???? How did it get to this??


Too keep on subject I believe Slick Trick also has a new 1 1/2''or 1 1/4"cutting diameter head out as well!!

GMMAT 11-06-2008 05:16 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.
Has anyone answered this, yet?

Also....if you were gonna have to choose which one to be shot with.....which one would you choose? Refer to the above.;)

TEmbry 11-06-2008 05:19 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.
Has anyone answered this, yet?

Also....if you were gonna have to choose which one to be shot with.....which one would you choose? Refer to the above.;)
define most Jeff. The 4 blade would slice open 2.5" worth of vitals, while the rage would slice open 2" worth, no matter the orientation or where it hit.

If im going to be shot by a BH, it doesnt really matter which one. The 2" gash appears more devistating because it is a linear cut, but in reality they are both cutting the same amount of tissue (actually fixed head more so)



TEmbry 11-06-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 


Ok this pic shows it better....the black blade is a straight 1.25" gash for both heads....the red highlighted blades are any cutting that goes on on top of 1.25"

Why is the extra .75" on the end of the Rage any better than the extra 1.25" on the 4 blade?? Is it because the blades are turned a different direction, they hurt less?:D[&:]

GMMAT 11-06-2008 05:27 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

define most Jeff.
"more"?


If im going to be shot by a BH, it doesnt really matter which one. The 2" gash appears more devistating because it is a linear cut, but in reality they are both cutting the same amount of tissue (actually fixed head more so)
Again...(this is like pulling teeth).....you have NO IDEA of the orientation of the blades prior to entry. Now make your choice.....and tell me why you chose what you did. You're rolling the dice "more" with which head?

If a man was gonna shoot your dog....which head do you want him to use? A G A I N....you have no idea of what the head orientation is going to be prior to entry. Roll the dice?



TEmbry 11-06-2008 05:30 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


define most Jeff.
"more"?

Oh gotcha.;)

In that case, I view 2.5" of a cut "more" than 2".

Thanks for clarifying.

Why does the other two blades go unnoticed? they cut just as sharply as the initial two.

DannyD 11-06-2008 05:33 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Answer me this.....WHich head has a better chance.....by virtue of "odds" of hitting the most vital organs? Remember you're guessing on the orientation of the blades before they enter the chest cavity.

2.5 inches if cutting surface has a better chance tha 2.0

Has anyone answered this, yet?

Also....if you were gonna have to choose which one to be shot with.....which one would you choose? Refer to the above.;)
Uhhh The Rage. It's not as tough as the fixed blade and wouldn't make it through my massive chest muscles:D;)


Oh, btw, I don't currently use a Rage or a 4 blade

TEmbry 11-06-2008 05:46 PM

RE: Widest fixed blade broad head?
 

ORIGINAL: TEmbry



Ok this pic shows it better....the black blade is a straight 1.25" gash for both heads....the red highlighted blades are any cutting that goes on on top of 1.25"

Why is the extra .75" on the end of the Rage any better than the extra 1.25" on the 4 blade?? Is it because the blades are turned a different direction, they hurt less?:D[&:]
For anyone who missed it.;)

I hate to do this, but I have to pull out Kindergarten Mathematics to get this point across, bare with me everyone.

2.5" is "more" than 2".

A. True
B. False


Both Heads have their perks, questionable hit farther back, yes there is a CHANCE that vitals could be knicked, just as their is a chance that vitals could be missed all together depending on how the blades are turned. Questionable hit forward though? Id say a Rage is a hinderance more than a help.

I shoot both type heads, so I really cantbe considered biased on either side really.


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