Size of huntable bucks?
10-28-2008, 10:05 PM
#1
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Wadena, MN
Posts: 4,701
Size of huntable bucks?
Some members on here rant and rave that deer just do not grow large where they live. Are BB breeding? Are these 3/4/5 pt 1.5 yr old doing all the breeding? Is there such a thing as a 3.5-5.5 yr old buck in this area? I have hunted white tail in a hand full of states and the standards are the same in all of them. Now other than Wisconsin I have never hunted east of the Mississippi. Myabe things are different out there. IDK enlighten me.
10-28-2008, 10:17 PM
#3
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
The genetics/genes are here In Minnesota. We've got world class bucks just like the big 3 do, just not near as many anymore. The timing of the rut kills our buck population, right during gun season.
10-28-2008, 10:20 PM
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: S. Illinois
Posts: 1,325
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
i think that A LOT of people dont think there are big bucks in there area because they dont spend enough time in the woods or they shoot a 1.5 or 2.5 yr old buck at first chance
10-28-2008, 10:33 PM
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Virginia / West Virginia
Posts: 4,906
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
It has to do with genetics, and nutrition.
It has to do with genetics, and nutrition.
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10-28-2008, 10:39 PM
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 899
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
When I was with jmbuckhunter (John) this past weekend, I was speaking with his friend, Bob. We were talking about what a deer "needs".
Bob told me this...
A "trophy" whitetail needs 5 things...
1-Age
2-Genetics
3-Age
4-Nutrition
5-Age
It makes perfect sense to me!
Bob told me this...
A "trophy" whitetail needs 5 things...
1-Age
2-Genetics
3-Age
4-Nutrition
5-Age
It makes perfect sense to me!
10-29-2008, 06:18 AM
#8
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
The biggest thing you guys are missing is numbers. Yes we have older bucks in PA, just number the number of them that Midwest states have therefore you have to hunt harder and smarter to even see one. Look at the statistics that were on here before. 1 in 3000 bucks make record books in PA, 1 in 300 in IL....that speaks volumes.
10-29-2008, 06:33 AM
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central PA
Posts: 2,299
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
As stated earlier, genetics and nutrition, in my opinion, are the two most important elements in growing big bucks with nutrition probably being more important. If you look at where most large bucks are taken, they are usually taken in or close to agricultural ground. But, all the nutrition and genetics in the world aren't going to matter if you don't let them grow up.
10-29-2008, 07:52 AM
#10
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Virginia / West Virginia
Posts: 4,906
RE: Size of huntable bucks?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
The biggest thing you guys are missing is numbers. Yes we have older bucks in PA, just number the number of them that Midwest states have therefore you have to hunt harder and smarter to even see one. Look at the statistics that were on here before. 1 in 3000 bucks make record books in PA, 1 in 300 in IL....that speaks volumes.
The biggest thing you guys are missing is numbers. Yes we have older bucks in PA, just number the number of them that Midwest states have therefore you have to hunt harder and smarter to even see one. Look at the statistics that were on here before. 1 in 3000 bucks make record books in PA, 1 in 300 in IL....that speaks volumes.
Hey do a survey on your IL trip....let us know how many 120"+ bucks you see while you are out there. I'm guessing its 10 to 1 vs. what you see back home. Of course I have no idea how many you've seen in PA this year to date, or how much you have gotten to hunt.