Roadkillwarrior

I agree, we should support one another. The thing I like about hunting is because you have so much freedom, there is no set standards that are enforced so we are alowed to make a decision on what satisfies us as hunters. We all really are out there to meet the same goals for the most part, spend some time in the woods, share the experience with fellow hunters, maybe shoot a deer now and then. Hunting is a way of life for alot of people, kind of like a hobby, but I don't like to look at it as a sport or competition.

WV Hunter

LOL....looks like Dopler fell OFF the Radar - or maybe he's just out dragging in his basket rack 6pt

Kid

18 pages!? Why do we spend so much time humoringpeople like dopler? Here's an idea, dopler. PM me and i will give you a list of hunting methods and deer that i have approved for you. You cannot deviate from what i tell you that you must do when it comes to deer hunting, for i am truly Lord and Master over all who Deer hunt. SHEESH! Get a life!

Dopler

Well, I read some of these posts, 18 pages overnight, pretty good response. Most of the responses were one liners from people who are part of the problem so I won't even dignify them with direct responses. Thiswill be my last post/visitto this thread as I'm going to have the last word here.Several of you had great responses. I guessthe X-factor that I did not consider is that some people are willing to go through life without succeedingso why should I expect that these type of people to raise the bar and their goals, to all of you, just go right on shooting the first spike buck you see.To those of you who agreed with me, congratulations, you get it, you're in the top 5% and you're a credit to the very fabric of game management. You're the type of people who are stewards of the land and will ensure that generations to come have quality managed game areas. By passing on samll bucks, you're helping the herd grow by ensuring that the best genetics advance as nature intended.[/align][/align]There was a guy on there who said I've been kicked off other sites, wrong, this is the only one I've ever belonged to. He even gave my assumed name? How did you conjure this up? Anyway, read back through the responses and figure out who was more civil, meor theposts against mine?[/align][/align]One guyleft a post on here sayingthat hedoes not want trophy bucks around in plentiful numbersbecause hunting them would be no fun because there would be too many. How cana guyargue withmentality like this?[/align][/align]A few guys left comments saying that shooting does is worst than shooting bucks because doesgive birth to bucks. Before typing such nonsense, please at least take the time to google the concept of QDM and read thewritings of wildlife biologistsfor yourself onhow it improves the deer heard and also reduces crop damage.Uninformed people just make things up and write them, I don't get it? [/align][/align]Derek, Guilty as charged, I am an arrogant SOB, what can I say,I'll always be that way I guess?[/align][/align]I don't have the patience to *****foot around on issues. When I see a guy driving his fork horn around on his truck for three days in warm weather until the meat goes rancid whilestopping at bar to bar to brag aboutit makes my blood boil. Why wouldn't he do that with a doe? But, he won't because it's a BUCK as smallas it may be. This is the type of thing that we've all seen. This type of activityisan extreme example/mentality of whatmost people are defending here.[/align][/align]The base argument for QDMis such a sound one that sometimes I can't believe that more people don't realize it--just because you shoot a small buck does not make you more of a manso why not just shoot a doe for meat? If you wait, you will harvest bigger bucks period! That's the base problem and it's ingrained in peopleand they can't change.I proudly announce my opinion and I really don't care who it bothers as it's fact.I won't ever let someone whoshoots little buckshunt on my land. There have been several good posts in response to this thread, yours being one of them Derek; however, 85% of the posts have been frompeoplewho will just never get itno matter how the argument is drafted and I only say that after reading through some of what was posted based on their merit (or lack thereof). Good luck to you too Derek, I can see you'rea man of reason even though you disagree with my methodology. Heck, I disagree withit myself from time to time.[/align][/align]To all of the people who asked to see my deer over and over again, well, it does not really matter. I didn't come on here to brag, I came on to talk about factual proven game management which most of you dismissed because you're just misinformed. If you must know, I've taken 9 pope and young deer. I have not taken a buck in three years, I've taken 6 does in the last three years. If youinsist on seeing some of my deer, I have a camospace page, Englishbowhunter is my account name, go on there and friend request me and I'll answer you on Monday after I get back from my hunting trip and you'll be able to see some of my deer. [/align][/align]Any of us hunters who own land or haveleases don't want guysthat shoot little bucks next to us. That'sjust a fact so deal with it I guess?[/align][/align]Oh, I must say that I laughed at the guy who took a picture of his own ass and then put a hat andlips on it, it was creative at least butyou might want to think about laying off the cheese burgers for a while. [/align][/align]If just one of you decide to raise up your goals this year and take the challenge then this post was worth while. Let the little1.5 year old bucksthathave nosurvival sensego and let them grow![/align][/align]

Handles

Some of you are hiding behind the law and personally I think that shows weak moral fiber. Let's get off the bucks for a moment and talk fishing which most us do. How many largemouth bass have you thrown back over the years (or whatever your favorite species is). Do you keep every singlelegal fish that you catch?
I know thatin most parts ofour countrythat's the way it used to be and fishing became very poor. Very few fish were reaching maturity and the entire fishery suffered. Many fishermen complained of not catching any big ones. Now fishermen havesacked-up andrealized that if they let go a 14" fish today, it has the chance to become a 16,18, etc as well as helping produce more offspring for better overall fishing. Most fishermen have done this without mandates from the law, they have done it for two reasons 1. to enhance the fishery 2. So that they and their fishing buddiesmay increase the odds of catching what is in their minds a "trophy" fish.
Let the kids keep a few 12" bass if it's legal? You bet! New fisherman? Absolutely!
A small buck is no different than that bass or walleye or muskie. We don't need the law to tell us that "Hey, I've already caught/shot a dozen or so like him, maybe I don't need to keep/shoot this one ." Many of you are republicans who would rather self govern, rather than have someone tell us what we can or can't do. Time to prove it with deer hunting just like you have with fishing and quit hiding behind what may or may not be legal in your part of the woods.

IAhuntr

Blah, blah, blah...

brucelanthier

The people with opinions that I care about, concerning what I may shoot..... none of them have posted in this thread .

Pa Trophy Man

Handles-

To expound a little more off of what you are saying... I love bass fishing, but if bass suddenly didn't grow any larger than 12'' would i stop fishing for them?? Hell no, I can go fishing all day and catch nothing, one measily 12" fish or a twenty pound hawg - it doesn't matter because i will still be enjoying my time outdoors. If i am enjoying myself and observing the law who has the right to tell me i shouldn't be proud because i only caught a "small" fish or shot a "small" buck? This guy (Dopler)and other guys like him need to realize that hunting is an individual sport and a blanket like his "herd" management will suffocate those who enjoy hunting for reasons other than large antlers.

dmen

dopler aka David Morris?

DeerandbearhoG

Dopler, and the the other 3 QDM snobs, who posted on this topic, still havent seen any pics of your trophy rooms full of QDM whoppers yet. Co'mon, give us a little inspiration to pass on the scrub bucks, you're too mature of a hunter, to shoot.

Phonies!