Heating Up Carbon
 

I switched from alum to carbon, on my alum I would heat up my shaft and
insert' s. I then turned my 3 blade muzzy' s until they matched my 3 fletching' s.
Can I do this with my carbon shaft and insert' s?

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

Usually not. Most people use two part epoxy to glue inserts into carbon shafts and if you put enough heat to it to melt the glue it will melt the carbon around the end of the shaft. From what I have seen on the tech forum it is uneccessary to align the fletching with the broadhead.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

heat the insert, roll it in the glue then put it in the shaft. DO NOT apply heat directly to the shaft.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

Like the two others said no heat for the carbon it will destroy the arrow or worse case it will make it brittle and you won' t know until it fails on an animal. I have been using regular fast setting fletch glue for my inserts the two part epoxy did not seem to do as good a job as fletch glue. Hope this helps.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

Aligning the broadhead blades with fletching is not necessary. If you absolutely have to remove or turn the insert for other reasons you can screw in a field tip and apply heat to the field tip until it heats the glue enough to remove or turn the insert.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

And then throw the arrow away because you got it to hot.[:o] I had someone hunting with me last year and staying at the house. He said he had to turn one of his heads. I said you can' t do that with carbons. He said, " I do it all the time" . He therein proceeded to melt down a carbon. It' s still in my garage.:D

It' s not necessary to line up broadhead vanes with your fletchings. If you feel you must do it do what Len does. When he makes up his arrows he puts a broadhead in the insert, places it in the arrow and spin tests them before gluing so he gets the truest straightness and alignment possible. He marks the shaft and broadhead, puts on the epoxy and inserts it. He twist it around 2 or 3 times to even out the glues before aligning the marks. I would think you could do the same thing for aligning broadhead blades.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

Thank,s you guy,s saved my carbon,s from being ruined.




THANK YOU

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

David,

What do you do if or when you get a wobbly carbon arrow due to a insert , throw it away?[:o] Your buddy got the heat too close to the carbon;) I' ve been doing it for nearly ten years , I learned the trick from my proshop owner who' s been doing it for as long as carbons have been around.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

If I can' t get a true flight with a broadhead it becomes a practice arrow. The first thing I do when I get a dozen new arrows is put on field points and make sure they all shoot close. Then each arrow gets a broadhead. I test them all several shots at ranges out to 30 or 35 yards. The special one.... the VERY BEST fliers keep their broadheads, get new inserts and go in the quiver or arrow box for hunting. All the rest become practice arrows.

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

I just order mine with the inserts loose, then install them with broadheads and a spin test, similar to the way that Dave suggested.
Charlie

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

I don' t think it' s necessary to line your fletching and blades up.But it is important that your inserts are in straight and the arrows will spin without wobbling.I allways install my own inserts.I use slow setting epoxy and screw a broadhead in and spin it like a top to check for alignment before the glus dries.

CB

RE: Heating Up Carbon
 

If you need to heat an insert in carbon, just screw in a tip and apply heat to that while you hold the shaft at the very end, right next to the insert. If you get it too hot, you' ll know it.

I just use hot melt so this works for me. I don' t know about epoxy.

-Chief

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WEll not all people use epoxy i use low heat hot melt try this and u will be ok and u will beable to turn your inserts just fine

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People always told me hot melt would not work on carbon, guess they were wrong. I have been using krazy glue from wal mart. It holds better than the epoxy and easier to use. I think I' ll swith to hot melt though, I' ve thrown arrows away with bad inserts because I couldn' t get them out.

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BOWFANATIC,

Been doing that for years too. It works very well.

JRW

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I don' t think is necessary to align your blades with the fletch but if you want to this is what I do. Screw a broadhead into the insert then put 2 drops of bohning powerbond on the insert. Next, stick the insert into the shaft and slowly rotatate the insert around while pushing the insert in. This spreads the bond out evenly. Wipe of the excess so you don' t get a bunch on the end of the shaft. Line your blades up with the fletch, then put your arrows on an arrow spinner and spin it while comparing the end of the broadhead to a fixed point like a line or dot on a piece of paper. Any wobble will be noticeable and since this bonding glue has a 8 hour cure time, you can adjust the insert until it spins true. If is spins straight, it will shoot straight. If you can' t get it at all, take it out, discard the insert and start the process all over again. Set the arrows somewhere with the nock down and allow them to dry. Hope this helps.