Great UV thread. Check it out
#21
ORIGINAL: blacktail slayer
I wonder why universities around the U.S teach this to their students then? How have they done test on the UV subject and get the conclusions that they get? Why do some clothes with added ingredients in their dyes light up blue when a blb light is on them; while clothes without the ingredients don't glow blue? Have you ever watched this video? It may explain it better then I can. http://www.atsko.com/videopage.html
Ya I know that there are other things that will light up to a deers eyes in the woods, but a 6ft 200lb man in glowing blue camo is not normal and may give an advantage to the deer over a hunter.
I wonder why universities around the U.S teach this to their students then? How have they done test on the UV subject and get the conclusions that they get? Why do some clothes with added ingredients in their dyes light up blue when a blb light is on them; while clothes without the ingredients don't glow blue? Have you ever watched this video? It may explain it better then I can. http://www.atsko.com/videopage.html
Ya I know that there are other things that will light up to a deers eyes in the woods, but a 6ft 200lb man in glowing blue camo is not normal and may give an advantage to the deer over a hunter.
Word of mouth sure does translate into fact rather quickly.

Ill say it one last time, a piece of clothing, or any other object for that matter, can not, will not, has not, and again CAN NOT have UV rays. It can only have uv dies which reflect already existent UV rays in the atmosphere. UV rays are pure forms of ENERGY, which I need no university lab to tell me my shirt is incapable of producing, especially on the UV level.
Scientists arent even sure which end of the UV spectrum deer can see in, and to what extent. Everything a deer sees is in yellow and blue tints, which means even if you were somehow a big blue marshmallow, you arent the only blue in the woods.
Im not saying it hurts you to use clothes that dont shine purple in a black light, but to say a black lights reflectiveness is as important as hunting skills, scent, and movement is hogwash. Some of these advocates go as far as discarding clothes that they used to use with success simply because they now figured out they glow in a black light. predator, an extremely popular and succesful camo, is supposedly the worst in the business for this UV reflection.....success. Its kind of like using a 3rd and 4th ratchet strap for a hang on stand, sure it wont hurt anything....but it is a waste of time, effort, and money when it works fine the way it is.
Id be interested in reading any actual university non biased study on the matter. I refuse to accept a manufacturers graph as fact, simply because they state it. Where are the links to these countless university studies on Deer's vision in the UV spectrum and how that relates to a black light turning a piece of clothing purple?
Even the OP of the AT thread who is VERY one sided on UV, says that the UV killer spray wont even pass his black light test?
#22
I spend 100% of my time and effort on shooting, scouting, stand placement, and wind direction. Whether I glow or not seemed to have no effect on 79 bowkills in 30 years. Does, little bucks or P&Ybucks, none of them seemed to care, so it's a non issue for me.
#24
I've used it(UV Killer) in the past with mixed results. IMO if deer can truly see some camo glowing its only in the dark and not in daylight. I am not even sure if they can see camo glowing that contains UVs. We do know for certain that animals can see better in darkness than we do soooooo I really don't think it proves anything.
#25
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Fork Horn
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Sorry I will try and find more info. I'm busy with school and work. The last website could keep a person busy trying to find and read up all the vision research.
http://hunting.suite101.com/article.cfm/how_do_deer_see_you
http://www.qdma.com/articles/details.asp?id=48
http://home.adelphia.net/~geffert/deervis.htm
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1279&context=icwdm_usd anwrc
http://www.atsko.com/articles/animal-vision-and-smell/uv-and-color-vision-references.html
http://hunting.suite101.com/article.cfm/how_do_deer_see_you
http://www.qdma.com/articles/details.asp?id=48
http://home.adelphia.net/~geffert/deervis.htm
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1279&context=icwdm_usd anwrc
http://www.atsko.com/articles/animal-vision-and-smell/uv-and-color-vision-references.html
#26
I yield, it makes me no difference. I dont want to read all these threads.
Use the products, it cant hurt, I just dont see it helping much.
I just wish some would realize these clothes dont emit UV, just reflect existing UV rays.
The one link i read basically confirmed what I thought. Deer see in yellow and blue, with grays for inbetween. beyond that, no one knows for sure....key phrases such as "it is expected that deer..." not "deer...."
Once again, it wont hurt anything, just be smart about it. Dont throw out camo because a black light makes it glow. Hunt smart, play the wind, dont move when they can see you and you will be fine.

Use the products, it cant hurt, I just dont see it helping much.
I just wish some would realize these clothes dont emit UV, just reflect existing UV rays.
The one link i read basically confirmed what I thought. Deer see in yellow and blue, with grays for inbetween. beyond that, no one knows for sure....key phrases such as "it is expected that deer..." not "deer...."
Once again, it wont hurt anything, just be smart about it. Dont throw out camo because a black light makes it glow. Hunt smart, play the wind, dont move when they can see you and you will be fine.
#27
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Fork Horn
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ORIGINAL: TEmbry
I yield, it makes me no difference. I dont want to read all these threads.
Use the products, it cant hurt, I just dont see it helping much.
I just wish some would realize these clothes dont emit UV, just reflect existing UV rays.
The one link i read basically confirmed what I thought. Deer see in yellow and blue, with grays for inbetween. beyond that, no one knows for sure....key phrases such as "it is expected that deer..." not "deer...."
Once again, it wont hurt anything, just be smart about it. Dont throw out camo because a black light makes it glow. Hunt smart, play the wind, dont move when they can see you and you will be fine.
I yield, it makes me no difference. I dont want to read all these threads.

Use the products, it cant hurt, I just dont see it helping much.
I just wish some would realize these clothes dont emit UV, just reflect existing UV rays.
The one link i read basically confirmed what I thought. Deer see in yellow and blue, with grays for inbetween. beyond that, no one knows for sure....key phrases such as "it is expected that deer..." not "deer...."
Once again, it wont hurt anything, just be smart about it. Dont throw out camo because a black light makes it glow. Hunt smart, play the wind, dont move when they can see you and you will be fine.




