Any ideas on these two guys age?

I want to say this guy is a 3.5, but I'm hoping he's a two. This is the only pic we have of this guy so it's tough to tell.





Also- what about this dude? When I was flipping through the images I just thought, a lesser 2.5. But the more and more I look at him I'm thinking 3.5 Just kidding- but the more I give him some thought I think he's a 1.5. I'm really hoping hes a 1 year old cause this is an impressive 1 year old for our area and hes got good potential

2.5 and 1.5 I'd say, maybe 3.5 on the top one just because of the big body for a VA deer

2 and 1

2 on the top on e because toward the rump of the deer still is smaller in proportion to the size of his chest area and has long legs still.

I would say 3 1/2 for the first one.... and probably 1 1/2 for the second one... Nice deer.[/align][/align][/align]

How old do you think this guy is? I'm trying to decide if he has bad jeans or not....

Any opinions.

Another pic of him....

can't see the pic....

Sorry about that I posted it up in its own thread thanks.[/align][/align][/align]

first one i think 3.5
second one probly 1.5, but its hard to tell from the pic.



i think probly 1.5

No one else has any inpput? I've seen threads like this go 4 and 5 pages deep. Surely ya'll aren't holding back