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RE: Rob's Buck on Video
Well opinions being what they are, from the time I saw the initial video I said "dead deer walking". Time will take it's toll and the buck will die from infection. Of course he's walking and eating and drinking what do you think he's gonna do, lay on the couch and watch football? As time takes it's toll and the infection turns septic he'll move less and you'll find his bones when shed hunting this spring.
I hope I'm wrong but the angles just don't support a missed cavity theory. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II its a gut shot, behind the lungs, over the liver even .... very likely a dead deer in a few days IMO ![]() BS. ![]() |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d Well opinions being what they are, from the time I saw the initial video I said "dead deer walking". Time will take it's toll and the buck will die from infection. Of course he's walking and eating and drinking what do you think he's gonna do, lay on the couch and watch football? As time takes it's toll and the infection turns septic he'll move less and you'll find his bones when shed hunting this spring. I hope I'm wrong but the angles just don't support a missed cavity theory. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d Well opinions being what they are, from the time I saw the initial video I said "dead deer walking". Time will take it's toll and the buck will die from infection. Of course he's walking and eating and drinking what do you think he's gonna do, lay on the couch and watch football? As time takes it's toll and the infection turns septic he'll move less and you'll find his bones when shed hunting this spring. I hope I'm wrong but the angles just don't support a missed cavity theory. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer Okay nimrods (affectionally) here's the close ups for ya'll to debate futher.;) CLOSE UP VIDEO SEGMENT. Jeff, As to your analagy of your intestinal puncture, it's not comparable, because a small fish bone is certainly NOT a RAGE 2" cut BH!!!! Though I see your point to some extent, if a Rage hit that animal and got into it's intestines, I believe it would be DEAD already!!! Bob, I disagree 100%, as I've stated above. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
I haven't read any of the posts on here but did not want to take away from a great hunt on the other thread.
My first impression on the hit in question was all meat. You can clearly see the entry and exit wounds when the buck first emerges, you can also see it again with about 32 seconds remaining. You can see without a doubt a tunneling of swollen meat, muscle or what have you from entry to exit. I would not think you could see anything like that with a cavity being breached. Maybe lumps at each point but not a clear path. 3 days and browsing like there is no tomorrow also goes against a gut shot, not that it's not possible but you wouldn't think the deer would be up and about traveling. With the arrow being deflected before impact why couldn't it alter again on second impact? It's lost trajectory, speed and stability. Second impact, the nock raises above the tip, arrow flexes and the course is altered resulting in a skewed path. I've had arrows in a target at almost a 45* angle when a vane tore, what path would that have taken on a deer? It happens and It will happen again, only this time it was taken on video and set up to be scrutinized, other times it's only told in words. Unfortunate?Yes, but it gives you a little more insight after seeing it than just hearing about it. If it survivesinfection and the naturalcauses of demise it may very well walk under the same stand next year to put everyone at ease, on video none the less. Edited to add I know this buck was not shot by Rob. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Oh I should have known better than to discuss this with all the veterinarians.....lol. How do you KNOW?....lol Ya'll kill me! This is from the shot placement thread we did a few months back. I'll concede if you place your arrow on the red dot that you'll miss the spine. Will he be "OK"?
What if he "ducks" the shot. Where does that place the arrow. Also after watching the close up video, it could be very well that the shot was made on the neck and those are just tuffs of hair. Although the video is good quality, its not the best, but from what I can see I dont see any wound there. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
Rob/PA Bowyer do you know what IMO means ? In My Opinion - based on what the pic was
I just watched the video and it does look a bit higher than I'd originally have guessed. I still think guts were hit, I cannot imagine the broadhead not entering the body cavity at that angle and the exit hole where it is My buddy shot a buck in a similar fashion two years back. It was rifle killed a few weeks after he bow shot it - chasing does, acting normal, and the broadhead had clipped the liver and they said that area was terribly nasty infected, the liver way way on its way to failing. |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer Okay nimrods (affectionally) here's the close ups for ya'll to debate futher.;) CLOSE UP VIDEO SEGMENT. Motown might also be on to something as well!;) |
RE: Rob's Buck on Video
ORIGINAL: Critr-Gitr My two cents is the shot is over the spine. My main reasoning is the elasticity of skin. If those broadheads weren't razor sharp then it could very well have "lifted" the skin before it cut the exit hole, giving a false impression of how low the exit is. Add a weird arrow angle or deflection off a branch (or even the top of the spine itself) and the possibilities are endless. But one thing for sure, he ain't sick yet... That leaves me with flesh wound untill proven different. Just my thoughts, your mileage may vary. |
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