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PreacherTony 10-01-2008 08:02 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: ron3775

My biggest thrill is the anticipation. You heard so leaves rustle, was that a deer or squirrel? Sounds to big to be a squirrel, not moving quick enough either. What is it. Heart starts pounding and you swear that if it beats any harder, whatever it is, they're going to hear it. Thats what I love about hunting.
Ron ..... why not just take a camera ..... in the above scenario, NOTHING would be different .....I'm telling you, if you look deep inside, you will see the kill as the CLIMAX of the hunt ..... the exclamation point if you will ...... in the above scenario, it's the anticipation of THE KILL that makes all that awesome exciting ....at least for me ......

ron3775 10-01-2008 08:09 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 
Heres the reason that I can't say anything about "The Kill". I haven't been able to kill any with my bow. I have only been archery hunting for 3 years. 2 of those years I had my son at my side giving him first shot on any deer that came in. Last year I did shot one with a bow, but he was later shot by a rifle hunter so I never got to cherish "The Kill". I am hoping that things are different this year as my son is now hunting in a different area then I am. Hopefully after Saturday I can experience that same feeling that you are talking about.

RackLuster 10-01-2008 08:12 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I don't admit it. [:-] I've used rage broadheads the last two years and i am not impressed.

yes, they make a huge entrance hole but it does you no good when the deer is hit high and there's no exit hole. I much prefer a broadhead that will blast through the bone (and come out the other side).

It happened to me last night. i hit a doe high in the shoulder with muzzy 2 blade. not a good shot, but my penetration was absolutely, flat out terrible. I've had muzzy's blow through shoulders at 170 fps, now i shoot 270 fps and I can't? When that deer was running away I thought the arrow was going to fall out, that's how little of it penetrated. i'm going back to muzzy.

I had a hard time recovering 2 of the 3 deer i've shot with rage.
I think I'd just spend more spare time practicing my shooting.;) Blaming the BH (BH choice is unimportant for this exercise) is a cop out.
gmmat - my point was, for a marginal shot (they do happen, even to you:D) rage may not the best option. yes, they blow the deer wide open when you hit the rib cage. But any head is going to do the job in those cases. my concern is that rage may underperform on marginal shots.

blaming me and saying i need to practice more - is a cop out.

marginal shots happen to the best of us. if they haven't happened to someone yet, then they haven't hunted long enough. i believe 100% that if i was using my old muzzy broadhead the arrow would have penetrated through the bone and out the other side of the deer. creating a much better blood trail then the rage did.

i don't mean to cause an argument. I'm simply saying that it's not all about the size of the entrance hole for me. cripes - the last thing i want to do is start another rage argument. that's a dead horse that needs to be left alone :D


GMMAT 10-01-2008 08:18 AM

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Rackluster....

NO HEAD is gonna go through hard bone.....other than a rib bone. Not one of them. THAT was my point. Keep your arrow away fromthe hard bones that'll stop BH's ....and stop blaming a BH for a bad shot. That was all I was saying.

PT.....hey...serious question. If you "need the kill"......I've got a scenario for you...

Let's say I could take you out with me this afternoon, here. Do you shoot the first deer you see? I'm trying (honestly!) to understand this "need". If I took you with me this afternoon.....would your need to kill have you shooting the first (all deer, here, are legal) deer that walked by?

Thanks!

MN/Kyle 10-01-2008 08:23 AM

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I remember when I went out in the woods thinking I needed to kill[>:]


And Rage Broadheads are for the birds! (literally)

RackLuster 10-01-2008 08:34 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

NO HEAD is gonna go through hard bone.....other than a rib bone. Not one of them.
i guess we'll just disagree on this one.

PreacherTony 10-01-2008 08:35 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

PT.....hey...serious question. If you "need the kill"......I've got a scenario for you...

Let's say I could take you out with me this afternoon, here. Do you shoot the first deer you see? I'm trying (honestly!) to understand this "need". If I took you with me this afternoon.....would your need to kill have you shooting the first (all deer, here, are legal) deer that walked by?

Thanks!
No ..yaknow, that's a great question ... the answer is no tho ..... I wouldn't shoot a fawn or anything else YOU wouldn't want me to shoot ..... they would be awesome fun to watch ...... so it's not just to kill ....it's to kill the intended target .... great question ...

GMMAT 10-01-2008 08:39 AM

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"Kill the intended target"

I can buy that.;)

BTW....if you're here......carte' blanche permission to shoot whatever will make you happy.

PreacherTony 10-01-2008 08:45 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle

I remember when I went out in the woods thinking I needed to kill [>:]
The "need" or desire to kill is what hunting is all about, Kyle .... you are a young man ..... if you think it's all about everything BUT the kill, take a paint ball bow out with you ...if ya nail one in the kill zone, he gets a little bruise, and you get ALL of what bowhunting has to offer YOU


And Rage Broadheads are for the birds! (literally)
:eek:

MN/Kyle 10-01-2008 08:45 AM

RE: The Kill - Revisited .......
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

"Kill the intended target"
There we GO!


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