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Vabowman 09-28-2008 06:42 PM

Rage users....
 
In my recent endeavors to try new things, Im going to shoot some Rage 2 blades this year....now for those who use them, do you replace the blades after a kill??? How hard is it to do this?? I have read several reviews that say that when you try to replace the blades, the allen screw that holds them in gets stripped or cross threaded or something b/c of the shot head.... several guys say they only get one kill out of a head....that is too expensive for me!! what's the deal....??

Rory/MO 09-28-2008 06:47 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
Most stories I've heard, is that the blades fall out in the deer. That's also what happened with my brother's doe earlier this year..

Mallardkiller 09-28-2008 06:50 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
mine have passed thru a deer and the blades still close and redeploy like new

nfleming399 09-28-2008 06:55 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-28-2008 06:59 PM

RE: Rage users....
 

ORIGINAL: Mallardkiller

mine have passed thru a deer and the blades still close and redeploy like new
I hope like hell EVERYONE is either replacing or resharpening the blades.

ONE SHOT RULE: Blades get ONE SHOT and they are done for hunting unless they are resharpened or replaced! ! ! !

NChunterman 09-28-2008 07:02 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
If the allen screw strips call RAGE and they will send you a brand new pack. FREE OF CHARGE. The buck I killed mangled the blades but no problems replacing them.

TEmbry 09-28-2008 07:10 PM

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I shot mine through a 4" small tree at around 50 yards by accident on a deflection....cut the arrow out, both blades stil intact, one was badly bent. Ill replace the blades and put it back in the quiver.

Vabowman 09-28-2008 07:11 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
ok good thanks! now I have a very dumb question.....all the pics I have seen look like the entryholes are horizontal and not vertical...I thought that was weird being that arrows should have spin on them and i thought I would see all kinds of different entry hole variations side ways, long ways, diagnal..etc, or am I wrong...do you need to have them screwed in a certain way?? or just screw em in andlet it rip??Im completely an idiot about mech heads...sorry for being annoying

TeeJay 09-28-2008 07:14 PM

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Yes replace them.
No it isnt tough.
They havnt striped yet for me, dont cross thread them. You can use a 1/2 grade 8 bolt if you start it crooked its going to strip out. Not Rages problem.

sr77 09-28-2008 07:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: Mallardkiller

mine have passed thru a deer and the blades still close and redeploy like new


I hope like hell EVERYONE is either replacing or resharpening the blades.

ONE SHOT RULE: Blades get ONE SHOT and they are done for hunting unless they are resharpened or replaced! ! ! !
Ding, ding, ding.....we have a winner. No ifs ands or buts. New blades are a must.


Shane

Dr Andy 09-28-2008 07:27 PM

RE: Rage users....
 

ORIGINAL: NChunterman

If the allen screw strips call RAGE and they will send you a brand new pack. FREE OF CHARGE. The buck I killed mangled the blades but no problems replacing them.
They weren't doing this last year. Must have gotten a ton of calls on the subject. I did manage to find them (little allen screw) in a very large well stocked hardware store. Most had the screws in the next size larger.
As for replacing blades I'm with Rob on this one. Blades get one shot!

Brian/SC 09-28-2008 07:31 PM

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I have reused a Rage 2 blade on 3 deerw/o needing to replace the blades. However, Ialways clean the heads and resharpen the blades after each use. I did try and remove the blades after the first kill and the allen screw did indeed strip. I have to admit that the Rage broadhead design and performance is quite impressive. Although, I'm switching to Rocky Mtn Snypers next week. In fact, they should be arrivingto my house tomorrow.
Wait a minute...my wife just told me I recieved a package in the mail yesterday. Women...better late than never I guess.

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Vabowman 09-28-2008 07:38 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
I plan on replacing the blades after I shoot them once. Now does anyone know if it matters how they screw in to your arrow.. does the head or bladesneed to be horizontal or something?? or can you just screw em on and roll out??

Dr Andy 09-28-2008 07:40 PM

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Screw them in and shoot.

Vabowman 09-28-2008 07:43 PM

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good enough for me, thanks....I know 0 about mech heads, but Im going to try them this Sat for the opener...can you buy the replacement bladeseasily???

Dr Andy 09-28-2008 07:46 PM

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Yes, I always buy a set of blades when I buy new BH's. BTW, I was very impressed with the Rage last year, shot one doe, but I'll be using the Slick Tricks 125g this year. They fly just as good as the Rage and I like the extra weight up front.

Vabowman 09-28-2008 07:50 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
ST 's will also be in myquiver, however, I am not very pleased with them as far as there quality...they fly great, but I have had at least 3 that I can't get the blades to lock down, there is a little rattle in them no matter what...

Dr Andy 09-28-2008 07:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

ST 's will also be in myquiver, however, I am not very pleased with them as far as there quality...they fly great, but I have had at least 3 that I can't get the blades to lock down, there is a little rattle in them no matter what...
Did you lose the little washer that goes on behind the blades? mine fit tight.

Vabowman 09-28-2008 08:00 PM

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no I have it... I called them and they said that I to make sure I used the flat side of the washer and I did, still have issues... not all of them, but half of them...

annika3 09-28-2008 08:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: nfleming399

I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.
Are you serious?

I'm not trying to tell you how to hunt but that is very irresponsible.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-28-2008 08:07 PM

RE: Rage users....
 

ORIGINAL: nfleming399

I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.
THAT is totally irresponsible!

PreacherTony 09-28-2008 08:07 PM

RE: Rage users....
 

ORIGINAL: annika3


ORIGINAL: nfleming399

I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.
Are you serious?

I'm not trying to tell you how to hunt but that is very irresponsible.
I totally agree ...... I don't understand why guys don't realize the importance of an ultra sharp head?!?!?!?!?!!?![:@]

NY/Al 09-28-2008 08:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: nfleming399

I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.
THAT is totally irresponsible!
I agree.

If you can buy a high dollar bow and arrows and all that jazz, you atleast owe it to the deer (and yourself) to have a set of 15 dollar replacement blades for those muzzy's, just constructive criticism here. Its not like they are hard to come by, i dont even re-sharpen blades for mine any more, i just put in brand new ones and throw the old ones out. Do it for the deer.

WesternMdHardwoods 09-28-2008 08:15 PM

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Landon~~ I am sorry to hear about the trouble your having with your Slick's!! I guess I can play part of the blame since I was one of the ones raving about them to you!!! I really am not sure what the problem could be??

Not trying to hi-jack but what arrow are you using? I just wanna know in case I ever run into such a problem???

WesternMdHardwoods 09-28-2008 08:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: NY/Al


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: nfleming399

I used a Muzzy MX-4 a few years ago when they first came out, killed two deer with the same head a week apart and never sharpened it. I still have it and its still plenty sharp enough. Muzzy has always made a great product. You can't really go wrong if durability is what you're after. I use their MX-3's now, top notch.
THAT is totally irresponsible!
I agree.

If you can buy a high dollar bow and arrows and all that jazz, you atleast owe it to the deer (and yourself) to have a set of 15 dollar replacement blades for those muzzy's, just constructive criticism here. Its not like they are hard to come by, i dont even re-sharpen blades for mine any more, i just put in brand new ones and throw the old ones out. Do it for the deer.

Not trying to argue any points here, but maybe he CANT afford a high dollar bow and arrows? I KNOW we owe it to the deer to replace the heads, but before we all get to far on this guys case...maybe ask him if he knows he can resharpen blades? I know its not the best thing to do, but it can be done and maybe he is not aware of that??

.... I am not argueing just wanted to defend him before we got to out of control, I do change blades on my heads...so dont YELL at me...haha:D!!

Vabowman 09-28-2008 08:24 PM

RE: Rage users....
 
Hardwoods, I still think they are good heads, just not as durable as i thought.... I will still shoot them this year... But I want to try the Rage before I come on here and criticize them or anything else I have done before, including shooting girrafes!! :DIm shooting the Axis ST arrows, but they do it on Carbon Express arrows as well...

Primitive Weapon 09-28-2008 08:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: WesternMdHardwoods


Not trying to argue any points here, but maybe he CANT afford a high dollar bow and arrows? I KNOW we owe it to the deer to replace the heads, but before we all get to far on this guys case...maybe ask him if he knows he can resharpen blades? I know its not the best thing to do, but it can be done and maybe he is not aware of that??

.... I am not argueing just wanted to defend him before we got to out of control, I do change blades on my heads...so dont YELL at me...haha:D!!
Dude, what's up with the bold font?

As for your concerns, regardless of his situation, I believe it was still irresponsible because he probably had at least 2 other BH's in the quiver that were perfectly fine.

WesternMdHardwoods 09-28-2008 08:36 PM

RE: Rage users....
 

ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon


ORIGINAL: WesternMdHardwoods


Not trying to argue any points here, but maybe he CANT afford a high dollar bow and arrows? I KNOW we owe it to the deer to replace the heads, but before we all get to far on this guys case...maybe ask him if he knows he can resharpen blades? I know its not the best thing to do, but it can be done and maybe he is not aware of that??

.... I am not argueing just wanted to defend him before we got to out of control, I do change blades on my heads...so dont YELL at me...haha:D!!
Dude, what's up with the bold font?

As for your concerns, regardless of his situation, I believe it was still irresponsible because he probably had at least 2 other BH's in the quiver that were perfectly fine.
Thats very true! I just re-read his post and it seems he is aware that he can sharpen his blade but feels he dont need to so can I put my foot in my mouth now or later???

As far as the bold font, go back through any of my 1500 post and this is what you will see!! I find it easier to read, I could always go back to using the green like I used too?????

NY/Al 09-28-2008 08:43 PM

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Hardwoods, I wasnt trying to make him feel little or anything, just offering some advise. If hes a hunter he will see what happenend, and hopefully learn from it, thats how we all get where we are. I wasnt saying he has a high dollar set upsuch as a brand new jobbie, but any bow will most likely cost him something, and since the head is whats really, above all, killing the deer, that it should the the most looked after part of the whole deal IMO. Just my 2 cents.

Peace

Gundeck 09-29-2008 08:51 AM

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I know I will get blasted for this, but let me put in my two cents. Of all the things I have heard on this thread, I don't think reusing a blade is a major crime. It seems like people are ready to crucify someone over using the same blade two weeks in a row. I always sharpen my blades or replace them. That said, you have guyson TV using HOMEMADE ARROWS. There are guys shooting 60 yard shots at moving targets. Guys on here are shooting deer in the neck. How many guys headout on the first day without spending at least a few hours shooting their bows? I think there are a lot more issues regarding shot placement and penetration that come before reusing a blade in the list of evils. Just my two cents.


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