Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
09-25-2008 | 02:09 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
ORIGINAL: pigiron
I've been bow hunting since 1985 and what you've just described is almostmy exact senario.......I still have a few ofthe razorbacks laying around.
Actually during one season, I did shoot thosehuge Andersons. Quite impressive to look at, but that's about it.They flew like a wounded goose. Muzzy four blades accompanied a few hunts as well. Thunderhead 125s were key though, and I always went back to them.If I didn't switch this year to Rage, I would still be shooting TH 125s.
As I stated in an earlier thread, I was luredto Rageby the pics of those gaping entry and exit holes. Just last night I killed a doe at 28 yards. It was an absolute amazing blood trail. Found herabout 20 yds from my arrow.
All in all I'm 90% soldon Rage two blades. The only downfall I could find is that I noticed that the actual broadhead flys ever so slightly different than the practice head. I don't know if anyone else had this happen, but to give me a piece of mind, I superglued three of the broadheads to keep them from opening. I just use them for practice now, and don't have to worry about replacing o-rings.....It's the targets that I'm replacing now.
I do wonder though how much heavier the glued heads are. I only applied a few drops.
ORIGINAL: badshotbob
I will be entering my 29th season as a bow hunter. For the most part I've used two types of broadheads - the old Razor Back 5's, and mostly Thunderhead 125's when they stopped making the RB's.).
I will be entering my 29th season as a bow hunter. For the most part I've used two types of broadheads - the old Razor Back 5's, and mostly Thunderhead 125's when they stopped making the RB's.
).I've been bow hunting since 1985 and what you've just described is almostmy exact senario.......I still have a few ofthe razorbacks laying around.
Actually during one season, I did shoot thosehuge Andersons. Quite impressive to look at, but that's about it.They flew like a wounded goose. Muzzy four blades accompanied a few hunts as well. Thunderhead 125s were key though, and I always went back to them.If I didn't switch this year to Rage, I would still be shooting TH 125s.
As I stated in an earlier thread, I was luredto Rageby the pics of those gaping entry and exit holes. Just last night I killed a doe at 28 yards. It was an absolute amazing blood trail. Found herabout 20 yds from my arrow.
All in all I'm 90% soldon Rage two blades. The only downfall I could find is that I noticed that the actual broadhead flys ever so slightly different than the practice head. I don't know if anyone else had this happen, but to give me a piece of mind, I superglued three of the broadheads to keep them from opening. I just use them for practice now, and don't have to worry about replacing o-rings.....It's the targets that I'm replacing now.
I do wonder though how much heavier the glued heads are. I only applied a few drops.
i did have the problem with rage slightly of then the practice but slightly is still a great shot unless or yore than3-5 inch off....i DONT trust rage 3 blade with a deers life. too many bad reviews and if i recall they had a recall on them
2-blade all they way i use them on a black bear...24 yrs shot bear went 15 yrs before the death moan JMO
09-25-2008 | 02:09 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
I shoot mechanicals as a matter of personal preference but will be the first to say that if isn't broke there is no reason to fix it. If your fixed blades are shooting well and you have confidence in them then stick with them. Now that being said, a couple of things stick out to me. You said that you hit the deer in the neck. I am assuming that you didn't intentionally shoot for the neck. Also, you said you made "your share" of misses and or bad shots which is what I would again assume the neck shot was a bad shot and I don't see blaming the mechanical for not doing it's job when you made a bad shot. However, you did mention that the mechanical didn't open which brings me to my next point and question. How long ago did this happen with the mechanical and what kind was it?The reason I ask is that 5 or 6 years ago my friends and I did some pretty extensive testing with mechincals on everything from apples and oranges to steel drums and never once did we have a mechanical fail to open. We had a bunch that were closed when we found them, but all of those were a case of the broadhead opening and then closing again when it came to a stop. Not saying that is the case here but I have killed a bunch of deer with mechanicals and been around a bunch of deer that were killed with mechanicals and I have honestly come to the conclusion that I am just as likely to run a broadhead through bigfoot as I am to shoot a mechanical into something and it not open.
I shoot mechanicals as a matter of personal preference but will be the first to say that if isn't broke there is no reason to fix it. If your fixed blades are shooting well and you have confidence in them then stick with them. Now that being said, a couple of things stick out to me. You said that you hit the deer in the neck. I am assuming that you didn't intentionally shoot for the neck. Also, you said you made "your share" of misses and or bad shots which is what I would again assume the neck shot was a bad shot and I don't see blaming the mechanical for not doing it's job when you made a bad shot. However, you did mention that the mechanical didn't open which brings me to my next point and question. How long ago did this happen with the mechanical and what kind was it?The reason I ask is that 5 or 6 years ago my friends and I did some pretty extensive testing with mechincals on everything from apples and oranges to steel drums and never once did we have a mechanical fail to open. We had a bunch that were closed when we found them, but all of those were a case of the broadhead opening and then closing again when it came to a stop. Not saying that is the case here but I have killed a bunch of deer with mechanicals and been around a bunch of deer that were killed with mechanicals and I have honestly come to the conclusion that I am just as likely to run a broadhead through bigfoot as I am to shoot a mechanical into something and it not open.
The shot was unintentional, I was not aiming for the neck. I was shooting my recurve, which at about 75# draw weight should supply more than enough energy to open a mechanical, regardless of shot placement. So, I'm not following your logic that a mechanical will not open if the shot is not perfectly placed. If that's a characteristic of a mechanical, than I think I've found my answer.
09-25-2008 | 02:12 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
I certainly think that with the onset of high speed cinematography, and the development of rear deploying blades, that mechanicals have come a long long way in the last ten years.
I'm still a fixed blade man myself, but there are certainly not many mishaps with Rages, Rocky Mountains or those Piston Point/Undertakers.... in my opinon, there is almost no way possible for them NOT to open on impact.
I'm still a fixed blade man myself, but there are certainly not many mishaps with Rages, Rocky Mountains or those Piston Point/Undertakers.... in my opinon, there is almost no way possible for them NOT to open on impact.
09-25-2008 | 02:13 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
So, I'm not following your logic that a mechanical will not open if the shot is not perfectly placed. If that's a characteristic of a mechanical, than I think I've found my answer.
What's your arrow weight and speed?
09-25-2008 | 02:15 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
I guess the only reason I would like to try a decent mechanical is for the bigger exit hole resulting in more blood on the ground quicker. I suppose though that correct shot placement has always resulted in watching the deer pile up within 60-80 yards anyway.
09-25-2008 | 02:18 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
I think you mean huge ENTRANCE holes......or at least that's what you'd get with the rear deploying models currently being employed.
So what's your arrow weight and speed?
So what's your arrow weight and speed?
09-25-2008 | 02:21 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I think you mean huge ENTRANCE holes......or at least that's what you'd get with the rear deploying models currently being employed.
So what's your arrow weight and speed?
I think you mean huge ENTRANCE holes......or at least that's what you'd get with the rear deploying models currently being employed.
So what's your arrow weight and speed?
09-25-2008 | 02:22 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
badshotbob,
My logic was that IMO you can't blame a broadhead for not making a good shot on a deer. If you had hit the deer where you were suppose to then this conversation would be moot because you would have found your deer piled up shortly there after. Not knocking a bad shot because we all make them, I am just saying that this 1 instance is not a valid test for any broadhead. My other point isthat "the mechanical failed to open" is essentially a fallacy that I have yet to see proven. I am not saying that it's never happened, I am just saying that the IMO that the instances of it happening are so rare that I doubt anyone else here has either.
My logic was that IMO you can't blame a broadhead for not making a good shot on a deer. If you had hit the deer where you were suppose to then this conversation would be moot because you would have found your deer piled up shortly there after. Not knocking a bad shot because we all make them, I am just saying that this 1 instance is not a valid test for any broadhead. My other point isthat "the mechanical failed to open" is essentially a fallacy that I have yet to see proven. I am not saying that it's never happened, I am just saying that the IMO that the instances of it happening are so rare that I doubt anyone else here has either.
09-25-2008 | 02:24 PM
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RE: Any reason to switch to mechanical broadheads?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I don't think anyone said this.
What's your arrow weight and speed?
So, I'm not following your logic that a mechanical will not open if the shot is not perfectly placed. If that's a characteristic of a mechanical, than I think I've found my answer.
What's your arrow weight and speed?
I am assuming that you didn't intentionally shoot for the neck. Also, you said you made "your share" of misses and or bad shots which is what I would again assume the neck shot was a bad shot and I don't see blaming the mechanical for not doing it's job when you made a bad shot.
I am assuming that you didn't intentionally shoot for the neck. Also, you said you made "your share" of misses and or bad shots which is what I would again assume the neck shot was a bad shot and I don't see blaming the mechanical for not doing it's job when you made a bad shot.
What's your arrow weight and speed?
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