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Arrow too heavy??
My brother just got his set up and his arrows weigh 374 gr. and he's pulling 57#. The bow is maxed out at this weight. Is this arrow too heavy for 57#?? Does he need to go lighter?
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Well im shooting a 70lbs bow and im 373gr. and im shooting a commander and am getting 305fps. so I dont know i would go smaller if he can.
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My arrows are at about 374 shooting 55# and all is well...
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I dont think there is any such thing as too heavy but he is going to lose some speed the heavier it gets.
I think 350 gr. is about mid range so he seems to be a little on the heavy side but it sure isnt going to hurt anything. He could always go to a lighter weight broadhead to pick up a little more speed though. rick |
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OF course it's not too heavy. If anything, I'd like to see it just a tad higher for hunting. He's only running about 6.5 grains per pound. I'd rather see 7-9. It's easier on the equipment, makes the bow quieter and will shoot through Dodge engine blocks. For me, he's as low as I'd want to see him.
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I shoot a 501gr arrow from my 60lb Vectrix XL. Only 250fps, but about67.5 ft/lbs of KE. THAWCK!
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I shoot 300gr. at 60lbs 65 ft/lbs of Ke. and I am sure it won't bounce off the skin!!:D
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How many feet per second?
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ORIGINAL: davidmil OF course it's not too heavy. If anything, I'd like to see it just a tad higher for hunting. He's only running about 6.5 grains per pound. I'd rather see 7-9. It's easier on the equipment, makes the bow quieter and will shoot through Dodge engine blocks. For me, he's as low as I'd want to see him. |
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I'm shooting 480 grain arrow at 60#. Shoots like a dream.:)
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He can go lighter. However, being so close to the season I would be hesitant to change things up now. If the broadheads are flying well he's good to go. I'm assuming he's hunting deer.
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ORIGINAL: twildasin I shoot 300gr. at 60lbs 65 ft/lbs of Ke. and I am sure it won't bounce off the skin!!:D |
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There is no such thing as too heavy!!!
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I shoot right around 6.9 gpp at 70 lbs. Could be heavier, or lighter...I really like this weight range compared to previous lighter arrows.
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ORIGINAL: davidmil ORIGINAL: twildasin I shoot 300gr. at 60lbs 65 ft/lbs of Ke. and I am sure it won't bounce off the skin!!:D |
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ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 ORIGINAL: davidmil ORIGINAL: twildasin I shoot 300gr. at 60lbs 65 ft/lbs of Ke. and I am sure it won't bounce off the skin!!:D heavier arrows absorb more of the bows energy, meaning less energy left to do damage on the bows components. very simplistic physics. 5 gpp can easily be shot, but is the BARE minimum...unless you are the infamous king, he is allowed much less.;) |
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ORIGINAL: TEmbry ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 ORIGINAL: davidmil ORIGINAL: twildasin I shoot 300gr. at 60lbs 65 ft/lbs of Ke. and I am sure it won't bounce off the skin!!:D heavier arrows absorb more of the bows energy, meaning less energy left to do damage on the bows components. very simplistic physics. 5 gpp can easily be shot, but is the BARE minimum...unless you are the infamous king, he is allowed much less.;) And Quick shoots his sub 5gpp arrows because his bow is warrantied for arrows well below that. I'm not aware of any reports of his equipment blowing up in his face. If I recall correctly, he's got a few nice trophy's on the wall thanks to his sub 300grain arrows.:D |
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 all the down-range kinetic energy,weight, or penetration capabilities are worth a hill of beans if the buck jumps the string of your slowpoke[:'(]240fps bow and is in the next county when your 500+gr. log of an arrow finally gets there!!! my 74 lb. switchback xt drives 27" maxima 350's(2"blazers,100gr.tips) which weigh 368gr(a hair under 5gr/lb. of draw weight)I've probably shot 4000 arrows with NO troubles!!!the bow sports a five pin sight with which I can ,with equal ease,hita six inch ring at twenty or sixty yards!! let's see a 54lb. bow with a 500 gr. arrow do that!as for penetration,all four deer I killed last year(two bucks,two does)were clean pass through shots.and none came close to jumping the string!!even at 40 yards!!!!! heavier arrows may be able to "shoot through a dodge engine" but an engine doesn't have the reflexes of a 5yr. old whitetail buck!!!! the new parallel limb bows have much less limb travel and tonsmorebuilt in vibe absorbthan older bow designs,therefore can withstand lighter arrows without damage.shoot a mathews,then we'll talk;) |
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Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't.
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ORIGINAL: 320fpsmathews all the down-range kinetic energy,weight, or penetration capabilities are worth a hill of beans if the buck jumps the string of your slowpoke[:'(] 240fps bow and is in the next county when your 500+gr. log of an arrow finally gets there!!! my 74 lb. switchback xt drives 27" maxima 350's(2"blazers,100gr.tips) which weigh 368gr(a hair under 5gr/inch)I've probably shot 4000 arrows with NO troubles!!!the bow sports a five pin sight with which I can ,with equal ease,hita six inch ring at twenty or sixty yards!! let's see a 54lb. bow with a 500 gr. arrow do that!as for penetration,all four deer I killed last year(two bucks,two does)were clean pass through shots.and none came close to jumping the string!!even at 40 yards!!!!! heavier arrows may be able to "shoot through a dodge engine" but an engine doesn't have the reflexes of a 5yr. old whitetail buck!!!! the new parallel limb bows have much less limb travel and tons more built in vibe absorb than older bow designs,therefore can withstand lighter arrows without damage.shoot a mathews,then we'll talk;)
320fpsmathews, I shoot a 480 gr arrow right around 270 fps. In my books that ain't bad for a log! My bow is whisper quiet, I thought my bo was quiet before. Well it's even more now, I thought it didn't have any recoil, well it sure as heck doesn't now!! Penetration is really nice, and my arrows fly so much nicer. I'm not afraid of the deer jumping the string cause they wont hear it. For hunting, I wouldn't have it any other way. If you haven't shot a heavy arrow, you need to try it. |
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320FPS IS SLOW COMPARED TO MY HCA SPEED PRO 352FPS...YOU NEED BOTH A GOOD WEIGHT AND RESONABLE SPEED...
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ORIGINAL: LSUBOWHUNTER 320FPS IS SLOW COMPARED TO MY HCA SPEED PRO 352FPS...YOU NEED BOTH A GOOD WEIGHT AND RESONABLE SPEED... How do you like your HCA Speedpro, btw? |
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I LOVE THE BOW. IT IS QUITE,SMOOTH, AND SUPER FAST. I LIKE EASTON AXIS AND BEAMAN TEAM REALTREE WHICH IS 9.6GR PER INCH I BELIEVE AT 29 INCHES AND 100GR BROADHEADS PUSHING 400 OR MORE GRAINS, THE AXIS ARE LIGHTER AND SHOOT A LITTLE FASTER FOR TARGET SHOOTING. AND AS FAR AS SPEED 270 FPS AND UP IS PLENTY FAST..
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Thanks for the input, LSUBowhunter. I'm considering getting one with the mini-trinary cam.:)
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geez i don't know david,is 30 yrs. bowhunting whitetail,mule deer,elk and pronghorns in western montana "very much hunting"?? I grew up sharing hunting grounds with the likes of chuck adams and gene wensel.but i'm a "newbie" on your little chat room, so what do I know??? i'll just sit quietly and try to absorb all your brilliance
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ORIGINAL: davidmil Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't. Noooooooo,:eek:delivering an arrow to a living target isn't about speed.and neither is DRAG RACING!! 
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ORIGINAL: davidmil OF course it's not too heavy. If anything, I'd like to see it just a tad higher for hunting. He's only running about 6.5 grains per pound. I'd rather see 7-9. It's easier on the equipment, makes the bow quieter and will shoot through Dodge engine blocks. For me, he's as low as I'd want to see him. |
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ORIGINAL: davidmil Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't. I uped my setup from 380 gr. last year to 490 gr. this year and could not be happier, my bow shoots like a dream, and is much quieter. Also, in a recent article in the NFAA magazine, the author suggests that trying to fling broadheads above 280 fps is not such a good thing. |
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ORIGINAL: 320fpsmathews geez i don't know david,is 30 yrs. bowhunting whitetail,mule deer,elk and pronghorns in western montana "very much hunting"?? I grew up sharing hunting grounds with the likes of chuck adams and gene wensel.but i'm a "newbie" on your little chat room, so what do I know??? i'll just sit quietly and try to absorb all your brilliance
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ORIGINAL: early in I shoot a 501gr arrow from my 60lb Vectrix XL. Only 250fps, but about67.5 ft/lbs of KE. THAWCK! I'm shooting a 465 grain arrow at 62lbs out of my 82nd at 280 fps, just shy of 82 ftlbs of KE. Double THWAACK! Rocks the targets. |
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I have two different arrow set up to hunt
GT CAA at 440 grains flying 295 FPS = 85 ft lbs KE GT 22's at 417 grains flying 301 FPS = 84 ft lbs KE This is all done at 63 lb draw weight. Ya, 63 lbs and I can still hit em like a truck.[8D] I love this bow. |
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ORIGINAL: Ben / PA I have two different arrow set up to hunt GT CAA at 440 grains flying 295 FPS = 85 ft lbs KE GT 22's at 417 grains flying 301 FPS = 84 ft lbs KE This is all done at 63 lb draw weight. Ya, 63 lbs and I can still hit em like a truck.[8D] I love this bow. |
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ORIGINAL: MGH_PA ORIGINAL: Ben / PA I have two different arrow set up to hunt GT CAA at 440 grains flying 295 FPS = 85 ft lbs KE GT 22's at 417 grains flying 301 FPS = 84 ft lbs KE This is all done at 63 lb draw weight. Ya, 63 lbs and I can still hit em like a truck.[8D] I love this bow. He's a monkey, you should see me try to shoot that sumbeach. You shoot 30.5" DL, right? Must be nice[8D] |
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30 inch with a d loop so ya. And, the monkey thing, also comes in very handy with setting treestands.[8D]
Rob tried to shoot my bow the other night, but do the length and the night setting in he choose to let down. Letting down, even properly fit is a challenge. The 101 likes to send more than keep.[8D] |
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yeh how would you deal with my issue?? 26.5" draw!!!!! it sucks!!!
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ORIGINAL: Vabowman yeh how would you deal with my issue?? 26.5" draw!!!!! it sucks!!! |
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ORIGINAL: thehairlessone! I don't think there is any such thing as too heavy At some point, he may be too heavy, but that 370-something isn't bad at all, and if he's shooting it well, then why change. Trying to go LOW Weight isn't always the best way. |
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WHAT EV!!!! the proof is in the freezer and hangin' on the wall!!! NUFF SAID !!!go shoot your telephone poles,i'm THRILLEDfor you !!!
  all you guys please explain this to me,if slower heavier arrows penetrate better than lighter faster arrows,why are the target makers building denser thicker targets which they claim are "rated for 400fps bows ??.seems like if the old style targets stopped your "target rocking" 250fps arrows, surely they'll stop these puny lightweight arrows,right ???? HHHMMMMMMMM....... |
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ORIGINAL: 320fpsmathews WHAT EV!!!! the proof is in the freezer and hangin' on the wall!!! NUFF SAID !!!go shoot your telephone poles,i'm THRILLEDfor you !!!
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