Arrow too heavy??
09-14-2008, 08:33 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: 320fpsmathews
all the down-range kinetic energy,weight, or penetration capabilities are worth a hill of beans if the buck jumps the string of your slowpoke[:'(] 240fps bow and is in the next county when your 500+gr. log of an arrow finally gets there!!! my 74 lb. switchback xt drives 27" maxima 350's(2"blazers,100gr.tips) which weigh 368gr(a hair under 5gr/inch)I've probably shot 4000 arrows with NO troubles!!!the bow sports a five pin sight with which I can ,with equal ease,hita six inch ring at twenty or sixty yards!! let's see a 54lb. bow with a 500 gr. arrow do that!as for penetration,all four deer I killed last year(two bucks,two does)were clean pass through shots.and none came close to jumping the string!!even at 40 yards!!!!! heavier arrows may be able to "shoot through a dodge engine" but an engine doesn't have the reflexes of a 5yr. old whitetail buck!!!! the new parallel limb bows have much less limb travel and tons more built in vibe absorb than older bow designs,therefore can withstand lighter arrows without damage.shoot a mathews,then we'll talk
all the down-range kinetic energy,weight, or penetration capabilities are worth a hill of beans if the buck jumps the string of your slowpoke[:'(] 240fps bow and is in the next county when your 500+gr. log of an arrow finally gets there!!! my 74 lb. switchback xt drives 27" maxima 350's(2"blazers,100gr.tips) which weigh 368gr(a hair under 5gr/inch)I've probably shot 4000 arrows with NO troubles!!!the bow sports a five pin sight with which I can ,with equal ease,hita six inch ring at twenty or sixty yards!! let's see a 54lb. bow with a 500 gr. arrow do that!as for penetration,all four deer I killed last year(two bucks,two does)were clean pass through shots.and none came close to jumping the string!!even at 40 yards!!!!! heavier arrows may be able to "shoot through a dodge engine" but an engine doesn't have the reflexes of a 5yr. old whitetail buck!!!! the new parallel limb bows have much less limb travel and tons more built in vibe absorb than older bow designs,therefore can withstand lighter arrows without damage.shoot a mathews,then we'll talk
320fpsmathews,
I shoot a 480 gr arrow right around 270 fps. In my books that ain't bad for a log! My bow is whisper quiet, I thought my bo was quiet before. Well it's even more now, I thought it didn't have any recoil, well it sure as heck doesn't now!! Penetration is really nice, and my arrows fly so much nicer. I'm not afraid of the deer jumping the string cause they wont hear it. For hunting, I wouldn't have it any other way. If you haven't shot a heavy arrow, you need to try it.
09-14-2008, 08:57 PM
#23
Join Date: May 2006
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: LSUBOWHUNTER
320FPS IS SLOW COMPARED TO MY HCA SPEED PRO 352FPS...YOU NEED BOTH A GOOD WEIGHT AND RESONABLE SPEED...
320FPS IS SLOW COMPARED TO MY HCA SPEED PRO 352FPS...YOU NEED BOTH A GOOD WEIGHT AND RESONABLE SPEED...
How do you like your HCA Speedpro, btw?
09-14-2008, 09:05 PM
#24
Join Date: Aug 2008
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
I LOVE THE BOW. IT IS QUITE,SMOOTH, AND SUPER FAST. I LIKE EASTON AXIS AND BEAMAN TEAM REALTREE WHICH IS 9.6GR PER INCH I BELIEVE AT 29 INCHES AND 100GR BROADHEADS PUSHING 400 OR MORE GRAINS, THE AXIS ARE LIGHTER AND SHOOT A LITTLE FASTER FOR TARGET SHOOTING. AND AS FAR AS SPEED 270 FPS AND UP IS PLENTY FAST..
09-14-2008, 10:07 PM
#26
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: woodstock n.y.
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
geez i don't know david,is 30 yrs. bowhunting whitetail,mule deer,elk and pronghorns in western montana "very much hunting"?? I grew up sharing hunting grounds with the likes of chuck adams and gene wensel.but i'm a "newbie" on your little chat room, so what do I know??? i'll just sit quietly and try to absorb all your brilliance
09-14-2008, 10:34 PM
#27
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: woodstock n.y.
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't. Noooooooo,
delivering an arrow to a living target isn't about speed.and neither is DRAG RACING!!
Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't. Noooooooo,
delivering an arrow to a living target isn't about speed.and neither is DRAG RACING!!
09-15-2008, 08:43 AM
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: davidmil
OF course it's not too heavy. If anything, I'd like to see it just a tad higher for hunting. He's only running about 6.5 grains per pound. I'd rather see 7-9. It's easier on the equipment, makes the bow quieter and will shoot through Dodge engine blocks. For me, he's as low as I'd want to see him.
OF course it's not too heavy. If anything, I'd like to see it just a tad higher for hunting. He's only running about 6.5 grains per pound. I'd rather see 7-9. It's easier on the equipment, makes the bow quieter and will shoot through Dodge engine blocks. For me, he's as low as I'd want to see him.
09-15-2008, 09:31 AM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago,Illinois
Posts: 171
RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't.
Ya'll go right ahead with those itsy bitsy arrows. Just don't tell us you weren't warned. I could care less if you want a cam cutting on your noggin. You want to push the envelope at the bottom end, no skin off my nose, or eye, or ear, or cheek or lip. As far as the remark about a deer jumping the string, you obviously haven't hunted all that much if you believe that 300 fps is going to make that all go away. Many of us have shot them with recurves over and over. Bowhunting is NOT about speed.... it really isn't.
I uped my setup from 380 gr. last year to 490 gr. this year and could not be happier, my bow shoots like a dream, and is much quieter.
Also, in a recent article in the NFAA magazine, the author suggests that trying to fling broadheads above 280 fps is not such a good thing.
09-15-2008, 09:42 AM
#30
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: Arrow too heavy??
ORIGINAL: 320fpsmathews
geez i don't know david,is 30 yrs. bowhunting whitetail,mule deer,elk and pronghorns in western montana "very much hunting"?? I grew up sharing hunting grounds with the likes of chuck adams and gene wensel.but i'm a "newbie" on your little chat room, so what do I know??? i'll just sit quietly and try to absorb all your brilliance
geez i don't know david,is 30 yrs. bowhunting whitetail,mule deer,elk and pronghorns in western montana "very much hunting"?? I grew up sharing hunting grounds with the likes of chuck adams and gene wensel.but i'm a "newbie" on your little chat room, so what do I know??? i'll just sit quietly and try to absorb all your brilliance