RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

You really wouldn't take that bet even at 20 yards? Really all the bet is asking is whether or not you believe that you can hit your mark, under hunting conditions, 90% of the time or better.

If you can't do that, I'd say that distance is beyond your effective range.

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

Your bet has little to do with hunting situations.

I will tell you that I have taken 30+ animals at ranges from 10-35 yards and have only lost one (hit the shoulder blade on a twenty yard shot where the deer was on a slow walk).

Nobody is perfect and a bad shot can happen at any range.

I could sit in a tree stand and shoot some pretty tight groups from thirty yards and the kill zone on a 3d target is pretty big...so hmm...maybe I would be willing to steal your $100.;)

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

It's not so much about the fact of whether or not I can or can't hit it. I can hit the 2" Morrell dots pretty much everytime at 20yds. My comment was more about placing a monetary bet on the shot. Pressure like that can do a lot to people that don't handle it well. I doubt I would be pressured enough to miss a lung shot at that distance, but you never know. I'm not risking $1,000 over it, and that's the point:D

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

Isn't there also alot of pressure when you're shooting at a live animal? To me, this bet is the best way to simulate a live hunting situation: one shot (no practice), from a treestand, with broadheads, at a 3d target, AND the added element of pressure. At least you know the target isn't doing to duck the string!

Personally I'd rather lose $1,000 on a bet than wound an animal. My maximum effective range is that maximum range that I'd be willing to accept this bet. For me, that's about 25 yards.

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

You must have more money or ethics than me. No offense, but I can only imagine the brow beating my wife would give me if I lost a grand.:( I won't shoot past 30 in the best case scenario, most of my stands are set up for 20 yard and closer shots.

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

I love that analogy, and wouldn't mind making a quick $100. :D

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

Can I double the wager?;)

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

See my original post to you...

I see what you're saying, but I don't think the pressure put on me by the risk of losing $1,000, is the same as that of missing/wounding an animal in the woods. Let me rephrase that, they both put pressure on you, but the way I (and that's the key word)...the way I would handle a situation when in the back of my mind I'm putting $1000 on the line compared to being in the woods with the adrenalin pumping through me with a deer at 30yds. You certainly have a point, and I'm not here to prove anyone wrong, I'm just telling you right now that I would not handle a situation where I was shooting for $1000 the same as I would if a deer was in my "effective" range. How you handle situations like that varies with each person just as much as everyone's effective range does.

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

Just thought about it some more after shooting all these months...20yds, I think I would take the $1000 risk:D 30yds...who knows. So maybe 20 is truly my effective range;)

RE: How do you define "effective range?"
 

I think that is a great way to determine your "effective range". Mine is 25 yards also and I'll take that bet all day :D.