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I agree with Robin. Most of those conversations are edited in after the fact when more arrows have already been sent dispatching the animal. While the educated hunter might think that the deer is still alive, the educated editor knows most likely otherwise.

As far as the original question goes, I have emptied my quiver in an attemt to get an arrow into the vitals of a spine shot deer that was moving. That was not my intent though. I will get out of my stand and try to get an angle to get a solid vitals shot if one is not available from the stand. I don't want to put any more arrows than necessary into that animal to kill it so I take each shot carefully. If more are needed more are taken.

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Bob answered this well. I see it SO much when the hunter spines the deer....then sits down (after said high-5's and gives a dissertaion of the hunt. What's that animal doing while he's doing this?

Pan away.....and pan back to hunter....who SHOULD be in a "little" more somber mood......

"After a follow-up shot.....the deer was dispatched and we had our buck". Then.....go about the show....

I've never seen this done....and I watch a lot of hunting shows.

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My first year bowhunting3 years ago I had two spine shots. The first one was about 25 yards away. I didn't have a good angle from where I was for a second shot from the tree. I climbed down and got behind it and put a second one through the top of the spine down thought the vitals. The second one I shot was pretty close to my stand where it fell and I didn't want to climb down. I had a good view for a second shot but it wasn't as good as I would have liked so I took a third.I didn't get anythingmy new bow two years ago, but last yearsot a doe. Made a better shot though the shoulder and front of the lungs. It took a while to find and the arrow burried the opposite shoulder and there was barely any blood until she broke the arrow off after a ways.One things nice about the spine shot is not having to track.

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I thinkthe post you used the quote fromdealt withpanning out directly after the spine shot. I'm not a cameraman or editor by any means, but I believe if you are panning out it would be difficult to insert an edit. Could be wrong though.

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I've spined 2 and luckily both allowed an easy follow up shot to the vitals. There isn't much worse that watching a spine shot deer suffering. I hope to never see it again.

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One of the first things you are taught as a cameraman is to establish the kill and not show needless suffering of the animal. Those quick pans back to the hunter are done so the animal isn't shown thrashing on the ground. From an editing standpoint I would take that and the first quick reaction from the hunter and then edit in the later conversation that was filmed from the same position and perspective after the finishing shots were made. A dither dissolve can make the transition from the first pan away to the later taped interview very seamless.

If someone were to carry on and hoot and holler while a deer is writhing on the ground I would have the same reaction as you and be disgusted with those "hunters" but in most cases things are being handled the proper way without showing the gruesome follow ups.

I do agree that a moment of explanation of what happened would be appropriate in a lot of cases to fill the audience in on what they assume happened, but sometimes egos won't allow for that. Other times it is a conscious decision not to mention it because we are under the microscope and don't want to provide any fodder for our detractors. I'm of the opinion that telling the whole story, good or bad, is the best policy though.

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Ive only spined one deer and I followed it up with two shots. The last one hit the lungs. No need to keep shooting after that Especially when an arrow and broadhead total $25

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Thanks for the explaination and a lot of it make sense to me. I do know of the egos sinceI have been in the same camp as a few. Not metioning names though.

FWIW though if they think they are fooling everyone, they are wrong.

Even I, as a somewhat experienced hunter watches something like what has menn mentioned, I am left with a FW% type of feeling. I question whether the actual kill was very accurate. Assumptions by the viewer aside, the viewer is left to believe he took the spinned animal with one shot if not even an explaination is given.

The makers of the show mayassume that everyone knows what happened, however, this may not be the case.

On a side note, I watched a show the other day where an indivual took a hard quartering to shot on an elk. There was no way that believe he even hit one lung let alone two which was whatwas seemed to be portrayed. [:@]

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It's funny that you say if they think they are fooling everyone, because those egos in some cases cloud their judgement into thinking they are fooling everyone.

As far as the hard quartering to shot, I have seen far too much of that lately on TV and it really hurts everyone in the industry and all hunters in general.

What I would like to do in a perfect world is to show everything as it happens and what cannot be shown is explained so that the viewer has an accurate picture of what is going on. If the footage is good enough to be aired, it should be good enough to be portrayed accurately regardless of how I end up looking. I believe if you do that you will be more respected than if you try to pull the wool over someone's eyes. If the footage is so bad that you feel you have to manipulate it or lie, then you shouldn't try to air it.

Bad shots happen, and we owe it to the animals to do our best to make up for those shots as quickly and efficiently as possible. If it is being taped we owe to the animal to own up to our mistakes as hunters. JMHO

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Good post HuntingBry!