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GMMAT 09-05-2008 11:42 AM

Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
I went through some of the photos printed from stand and came up with a little "aim for the exit hole" / shot placement thread. Feel free to add your own comments (please do). I think this might help some of the VERY new guys.....but to most of you it will be "old hat".

We'll have to make some "assumptions" on these....and the first is....NO IMPEDIMENTS are in your line of fire. That is for another thread.....whether you would shoot, or not. For this exercise....we'll assume all shots have a cler shooting lane.

No. 1 -



No. 2 -

No. 3 -



No. 4 -



No. 5 - For NO. 5 I'll add the added caveat of you being 20' perched in your stand. I think it shows the importance of aiming for the exit hole, better, to assume this.



No. 6 -



No. 7 - OK.....just for fun;)



No. 8 -



No. 9 - Again....NO IMPEDIMENTS, and I was 23' up....and he was about 25-30 yds.



No. 10 -



No. 11 -



No. 12 -



I may be "off" on a few....but if so it'll stir up good conversation as to why others feel that way.

Purely educational. Is this worthwhile?

Have at it.;)





njbuck22 09-05-2008 11:46 AM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
IMO, you all the shot placements were right on.

bawanajim 09-05-2008 11:51 AM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
3,8,10& 12 have the near leg back ,that is not the time to take that shot.

5 is just a bad angle not a shot I would take.

But the cow drops inside of thirty yards even with a fixed blade .;)

TexasBowHunter 09-05-2008 12:00 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Jeff, Good thread, I have done this with my daughter and wife the past couple of years in magazines. I pre-mark the pages and give them a marker and turn them loose, I think it is a good way for someone who has never shot an animal and doesn't know the anatomy very well.....

MN/Kyle 09-05-2008 12:02 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
#9 seems a little back, to me.

And shoot the turkey in the head, wimp:D

MOTOWNHONKEY 09-05-2008 12:13 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
My only change would be #5. I think it's high.

DowningAir 09-05-2008 12:17 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
That's a good tip.I might have to try that out sometime. Good thinkin'!

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GMMAT 09-05-2008 12:42 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

3,8,10& 12 have the near leg back ,that is not the time to take that shot.
premise of the thread is we're GONNA take the shot presented. Whether or not the angle is right or impediments exist.....those are itmes for another thread.

Hey MOTOWN....

Chris I made a caveat on No. 5 that we were 20' up on that one. Would that/does that change you rmind on the angle? Interested.

Kyle.....

If you'll go back and look at No. 9 again....the angle is quartering away. The exit hole would ALREADY be in the brisket.....or...in front of the offside leg if shot where I have it marked.

DT....your top photo....is awfully close to the leg....and it'll have your exit hole into the offside shoulder. See my reply to Kyle on your second photo. Your third....refer to what I asked MOTOWN....and remember we're up 20'. Your number 4 is personal preference. I wanted to give myself a little more margin for error....but no issues if you chose that spot. A low miss is a complete miss....and there's nothing wrong with that if you're gonna miss, altogether.

fingerz42 09-05-2008 12:47 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
i have to agree with Gmmat.. #5 of yours droptine is quite a bit low for being up in the tree 20'... Maybe you didnt see that part of the picture.. Given if you were at ground level your yellow dot is right on, but for 20' up.. to low.. JMO..

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-05-2008 01:00 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
1. I'd aim slightly lower, about an 1.5".

3. Slightly lower

4. about an 1" lower

5. Lower and left.

7. lower on the calf

8. about an inch lower

But we'd both have just as dead deer.

Well done.

peakrut 09-05-2008 01:02 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Very goodJeff all would be kill shots, I just think #3 is still walking but can be stopped of course.
#5 I would probably aim lower as I seem to always hit high at 20' high.

Sorry Germ not mature enough.[8D]

Germ 09-05-2008 01:02 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Here you go Jeff, few more for you







Germ 09-05-2008 01:07 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

Sorry Germ not mature enough.[8D]
That's why my camera is pointed at them:D

GMMAT 09-05-2008 01:14 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
1. I'd aim slightly lower, about an 1.5".

No issues, Rob. Thats why we do this. I just noted the elevation it seemed the hunter/photographer's view had.

3. Slightly lower

Again.....elevation made me make the choice I did. It seemed from the hunte/photographer's view that there was elevation enough to warrant the placement I made. No wrong answer, though.....and talking to you abou tthis last year has made me lower my POI. Thanks.

4. about an 1" lower

No issues, buddy;)

5. Lower and left.

Again....no issues! I just know the exit is gonna be in the lower brisket, anyways. Personal preference....and probaby a LOT to do with confidence in hitting the lower mark;). My margin for error would be greater.

7. lower on the calf

LOL....I actually thought of you when I made this choice....and thought about the threads RE: area below the spine being vitals. I picked a happy medium and let it fly.

8. about an inch lower

Again.....personal preference....and through the boiler room with either.

Thanks for playing!:)

MN/Kyle 09-05-2008 01:22 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Kyle.....

If you'll go back and look at No. 9 again....the angle is quartering away. The exit hole would ALREADY be in the brisket.....or...in front of the offside leg if shot where I have it marked.


Agreed. Splitting hairs. It's the only one that really stuck out to me, I would have shot a little bit forward.

I'm going to go try on some real critters now:)

Have a good weekend.

MOTOWNHONKEY 09-05-2008 01:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Hey MOTOWN....

Chris I made a caveat on No. 5 that we were 20' up on that one. Would that/does that change you rmind on the angle? Interested.
Your mark is deff. a dead deer. I would just drop it just above where Droptine put the yellow mark. His other yellow marks are to far forward for my likeing though.

pinetag 09-05-2008 01:26 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Here are my shots for these 3...




pinetag 09-05-2008 01:28 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
well that didn't work?

Germ 09-05-2008 01:29 PM

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pinetag 09-05-2008 01:32 PM

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how'd you do that Germ? I use photobucket on other forums and it works fine.

Germ 09-05-2008 01:33 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
I have skills:D

On HNI you have to hit the little picture button. The markup tags do not work

peakrut 09-05-2008 01:35 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Thats my teamate.

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OKbowhunter20 09-05-2008 01:40 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

1. I'd aim slightly lower, about an 1.5".

3. Slightly lower

4. about an 1" lower

5. Lower and left.

7. lower on the calf

8. about an inch lower

But we'd both have just as dead deer.

Well done.
An excellent point.

I may not aim EXACTLY where you put the dots, but they would be darn close. And like Rob said, it all ends the same, with a dead deer.

And I recognize number 6:)

GMMAT 09-05-2008 01:42 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Have a good one yourself, Kyle;)

OK Germ.....I'll play.

No. 13 -



No. 14 -




No. 15 -















GMMAT 09-05-2008 01:47 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Hey MOHO.....Thanks for playing and telling me "why". I appreciate the feedback, always.

Thought about you last night as I was watching a TV hunting show. Guy gets 160 acres of land to hunt (KS, of course) and there were VERY few trees, there. He killed a SLAMMER out of a ground blind, beside a pond. It was KNARLY.

I still wanna come out there, buddy. We just need the economy and the workload to match the wants....and I have to be able to draw a tag. I am SO interested in hunting somewere with such terrain.

Play the wind, I will....;)

Have a great weekend, pal.

bigtim6656 09-05-2008 02:03 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
nice thread good tips

PreacherTony 09-05-2008 02:12 PM

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Freakin' hilarious!!!!


without reading all the posts, #5 seems high to me as well

GMMAT 09-05-2008 02:13 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

without reading all the posts, #5 seems high to me as well
Did you read the caveat for No. 5, PT? Premise is you're 20' up, looking down. I will agree that the angle shown makes you look about 12' up.

Red 5 stdby 09-05-2008 02:19 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
What about neck shots? Just kidding, I couldn't resist. Great thread, very useful as a refresher after not hunting for 10 months. I like the magazine idea as well.

PreacherTony 09-05-2008 02:20 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


without reading all the posts, #5 seems high to me as well
Did you read the caveat for No. 5, PT? Premise is you're 20' up, looking down. I will agree that the angle shown makes you look about 12' up.
Here be where I be aimin' :) ... BLUE DOT







GMMAT 09-05-2008 02:23 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
No problem, PT.....I just felt like the angle shown was from lower than I called out (20'). From the angle shown.....I like you height.....but I'd aim right of where your blue dot is.

Dead deer.;)

Look at that headgear! I hope I get that shot, this year!:D

PreacherTony 09-05-2008 02:28 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

No problem, PT.....I just felt like the angle shown was from lower than I called out (20'). From the angle shown.....I like you height.....but I'd aim right of where your blue dot is.

Dead deer.;)

Look at that headgear! I hope I get that shot, this year!:D
Honestly, I wouldn't take shot with a bow ....... and I hope you AND I get a chance at a buck like that .... there are a few in my area this year ...:)

GMMAT 09-05-2008 02:33 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
Nothing in my way????

I'll take it. Buck. doe or fawn. I had 3 exit holes out the brisket in '07, I believe.....and all shots were taken within 15yds. MY BH is gonna potentially cut a 6" swath on the way IN.

From 23' up that angle becomes more acceptable.

mauser06 09-05-2008 02:35 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
hey!! i took that last photo!!!:D


good stuff guys...

only one i disagree with is #5...FROM that exact photo angle...id probably "adjust" some (i like to aim lower in general) but all those shots would result in dead deer not very far away...

buddy actually TOOK that EXACT shot(as presented in #5)...12-15ft up...10yds or so(cant remember) entered in the last ribs and blew out the brisket infront of the far leg....i was shocked...i didnt think id take that shot.....but, im shooting ALOT more KE than he is and a good 100gr heavier arrows...he had a complete pass through and dead deer within 30yds...

PreacherTony 09-05-2008 02:35 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Nothing in my way????

I'll take it. Buck. doe or fawn. I had 3 exit holes out the brisket in '07, I believe.....and all shots were taken within 15yds. MY BH is gonna potentially cut a 6" swath on the way IN.

From 23' up that angle becomes more acceptable.
I may reconsider if I get the chance ... but it'll have to be the only opportunity ...... MAN I can't wait to get out there!!!

GMMAT 09-05-2008 02:37 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 
PT......

ONE week from right now....and I'll be at camp with Diesel and his guys......making sure my bow is still "on".....and hunting the next morning.:)

PreacherTony 09-05-2008 02:40 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

PT......

ONE week from right now....and I'll be at camp with Diesel and his guys......making sure my bow is still "on".....and hunting the next morning.:)
I envy you guys that can hunt this early ........ October 18th for me [:@]

Finch 09-05-2008 04:09 PM

RE: Aim for the exit hole....an interactive exercise
 

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

PT......

ONE week from right now....and I'll be at camp with Diesel and his guys......making sure my bow is still "on".....and hunting the next morning.:)
I envy you guys that can hunt this early ........ October 18th for me [:@]
Yeah but they will lose 10 pounds in the heat! In a way, I'm glad VA's season doesn't start until October 4th. It is still warm but it is a tad cooler.:)


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