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Matt / PA 08-26-2008 04:40 PM

** Take Quality Pictures......Ones to be proud of!! **
 
Like Rob's "Recovery Thread" this one has been around for quite a few years as well and is probably in its 7th go around as one of the handful of annual preseason pinned topics.

The topic itself may seem trivial or even silly to somebut it's a fact that how we present ourselves and our lifestyle to the general public is an important consideration to be made before we start snapping those pictures.
We will alsobe creating images in the proccess that we will be proud of and will look upon with admiration again again long after the hunt has ended.
This topic is alsoespecially relevant forHNI given that wehave established the Huntingnet Bowhunting Deer Contest as a yearly tradition, and the need for “Photographic Evidence w/ bow” in that contest.

At the end I willinclude a recent example of how I like to present the outcome of a successful hunt. Please feel free to contribute your own examples as well.

Here ya go!:

You have that animal you worked so hard for, dreamed of all offseason ..….it may very well be an animal of a lifetime in your hands!


What you do next will decide how well that memory will be replayed and preserved for years to come.

You’ve all seen them………and if you don’t hate them I’d be shocked. You know what I’m talking about: Tongue hanging out, laying lifeless in the back of a pick-up truck……..or the absolute most horrible of them all,(insert Psycho shower scene music here) hanging by its neck from the garage rafters!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh!!
What are you doing!
A little fore thought, a small amount of time and some creativity will help you to take pictures that you will be proud to show anyone, ones that will do the moment justice and ABOVE ALL ELSE honor the spirit of the animal you just harvested.

I won’t call these the “Be all End All” guidelines for how to take pictures (I’m NOT a professional photographer by any means) but you can rest assured that if you eliminate most of the things you SHOULDN’T do ,chances are you will be much happier when you get that film back from 1hr photo (cause’ ya know none of us can wait days for developing!)

1. Ok, I know we’re not all John D. Rockafeller……..cameras are expensive plain and simple. You can get as crazy as you want with expensive super telephoto/digital high resolution etc. etc., or you can get by with some simple and inexpensive disposable options. The main thing to remember is this……The best pictures are those taken on the spot, in the woods and fields where the animal lived and died. They not only add needed scenery to a picture but they also help to tell the story as well.
Several factors will determine if this in the field photography can or will happen…….if you have a buddy to help take the pictures you can at minimum keep a decent disposable camera in your day pack. Very little added weight or space taken.
Obviously if you are by yourself you’ll need a “REAL” camera with an automatic shutter feature. There is a company (Savage archery systems) that makes a great little cameral tri-pod that uses arrows for the legs by fitting your nocks into slots on the tri-pod. Works GREAT!

http://www.savagearchery.com/store.php?crn=58

In any event do your best to have a camera (with a flash) handy. You can’t take a picture without SOMETHING!

2. Don’t be afraid to take a BUNCH of pictures…….usually you’ll know if you’ve
taken enough when your hunting buddy starts to complain or starts calling you “Miss America” .;) Whatever you do, absolutely positively DON’T stop after one or 2 pictures…….blow an entire roll or 2 if you have to, or fill up that digital memory card! I have seen too many instances where 24 pictures are taken and maybe 1 or 2 come out truly good so imagine your odds of a frameworthy picture if you stop at 3??:(.

3. Posing the animal is sort of an art form in itself…….you want the animal to look tasteful, and quite frankly, alive. Try to avoid the “Overhead” airplane shots. Have your buddy get down eye level, get close get far , straight on, quartering, hunter sitting, hold it this way, that way………basically be creative.


Check out the poses in the hunting magazines. Find one you really like, remember it and try to duplicate it with your own animal. Better yet, cut the picture out and stick it in your wallet or license holder........when the time comes you'll have that picture right in front of you and you can use it to duplicate the shot.

4. Compose the picture…..think about what is behind the shot and how it will play into the picture. If there is a nice bit of early morning sun hitting the forest floor only a few feet away, by all means get the animal into it. If there is a particularly nice tree etc get it in the picture. Remove all foreign debris like twigs, weeds etc from sticking up in front of the shot. Nothing worse than getting the pictures back and the camera focused on and flashed out a big fat weed a foot from the lens!

Also don't always center the person in the middle of the animal, think about some of the offset type poses where the center of the picture might be somewhere between the animal and the person, especially on close ups.

5. Take the pictures BEFORE the animal is dressed! It will look more full, and more alive. Speaking of alive, sounds extreme, but you might want to invest in a set of taxidermist eyes. It doesn’t take long for a dead deer (or whatever) to get a “Dead” eye. You can easily slip these fake eyes into place and not only will you have nice lifelike eyes, but no “Eye Shine” from the flash.

6. Wipe off all blood, stick the tongue back in or simply cut it off,and for God’s Sake if the arrow is still in the animal REMOVE IT. I know some of you are thinking……” I’m not going to worry about what other people think” Well frankly you should. Being able to proudly show a non-hunter a tastefully done picture showing how proud you are of that animal…….honoring the animal will go a lot farther than a bloody deer hanging from its neck I can guarantee you that! A little Windex or water sprayed around the mouth and wiped clean will make a much better and professional looking picture.

Another tip that was recently showed to me: All lung shot animals will bleed from the nose and mouth and will continue to ooze blood from these openings long after the recovery. After you clean up the muzzle area roll up some paper towel pieces and tuck them back into the nostrils out of sight and another wad into the back of the mouth. These will saok up residual blood and prevent any new blood from staining the cleaned up face. (Thanks Billy in WY for that tip)

7. SMILE!!!!! Guess what? You are having a good time, you’re not getting your picture taken for “Soldier of Fortune” magazine.

8. Get the Hat out of your eyes……yeah we want to see you too.(Some of you anyway[:'(])

9. Make sure that you get the bow in the picture. Again helps to tell the story (Also a requirement for the Contest)

10. Put something solid under the deer’s chest cavity to prop it up a bit…….will give a much fuller looking animal. When an animal is lying down you don’t realize it but it is on a very near parallel angle to the ground. Bringing the chest up and out a bit will do wonders. Also try tucking the legs into a “Bedded” position under the animal. Looks very lifelike.

11. Smooth back any funky hair…….slick it back with your hand...DETAILS!.

12. Use your flash to fill shadows. Even if you think its light enough.

13. Get close…….many many many times I’ve seen people THINK that they are going to get what they see in that viewfinder and they wind up with a picture that looks much farther away. Don’t be afraid to take some shots from what you think is “Too Close”

14. Digital Cameras are GREAT…….and as technology gets better and better you are starting to see prices on very good ones come down considerably. Nothing like the instant gratification and feedback of a digital. You don’t like a shot, simply erase it and try again. If you go this route, remember to save the pictures to a DISC! You lose your computer, you lose your memories. (I want to ammend this entry as last year someone mentioned a good point........unless it's a blatant bad shot like you accidentally took a picture of your foot or the sky:eek:don't delete the picture.....sometimes those candid unplanned shots are the best ! In any event Digital cameras give you that OPTION.)

Also many places like Walgreens, CVS etc have digital photo stations where you can take your digital media and have your pictures uploaded, cropped, enhanced, etc etc and have prints made in a matter of a couple hours as well as your picture CD to save them forever!

15. The animal is NOT a carnival ride so don’t even dream of sitting on it’s back! This even looks tacky for the truly big animals like Elk and Moose.

16. Don’t pull a “Bill Dance” and stretch your arms out to the camera to make your 13” 8pt look like the “Jordan Buck”! Nobody is buying it and we want to see the true animal! Be proud of what it is.

17. Pick-up beds are a big pet peeve of mine……..especially since most of the time it involves just the animal looking VERY dead, or since there is no room you wind up with “Joe Hunter” riding bareback. YUCK!!!! I find no excuse for this one except a lack of really caring or laziness. If you can’t get the animal’s picture taken in the woods for whatever reason, that’s understandable. If that's the case, drive to a Park or a friend’s house with some trees…... Just make it somewhere in a natural setting, remember the above tips and do your best to make it look lifelike! ( NO the garage floor next to the can of Kerosene and your spare tire doesn’t count as a natural setting!)

18. Get your hunting partner in the picture! He’s your buddy……..(your now jealous buddy!), but your buddy nonetheless, and when the 2 of you relive the hunt though the pictures they will mean much more to you

19. Pass it down……..sorry to remind everyone, but we are all going to pass onto the big hunting ground in the sky someday. Leave something behind for your kids to show your love of the sport in a way they will be proud of! Is there anything better than to imagine your grandkids sitting around a fireplace paging thru “Grandpas” old hunting album and remembering the hunts and the man behind them. Everybody now……….Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

That should do it, if anyone is still awake!
I know this isn’t the “Bible” of how hunting pics should be taken…..it’s not meant to be. I don’t know many of the technical aspects of photography, so what I have listed here I have figured out through trial and error, common sense and personal aesthetics, but I GUARANTEE that if you follow even a few of them your pictures and memories of a cherished moment in your life will improve for the better.
I CHALLENGE everyone to take the best pictures that they are capable of, ones to be proud of, to look at again and again with a smile………And above all else to HONOR THE ANIMAL.


And when you take that “Perfect Picture” , the one you can’t stop staring at……if you haven't considered this topic before, you'll thank me later.;)


For the 2008/2009 version of this topic I will highlight my buddy Frank's 07' PA archery buck (HNI member Kidd642)

This is how I generally like to set upa picture........nice interesting background with quality lighting. Fill flash used, nice expression and a quality pose and animal. Notice how the simple use of an offset pose (hunter to one side) enhances the look of the picture. Remember you don't always need to be hovering directly over and behind the animal! This was one of about 50 pictures we took of that deer, from various angles, bow, no bow, etc etc.
Be creative, and remember you might only find one out of 50 pictures you truly like,so if you stop at only 2 or 3pictures.......chances are it's not one of them! ;)



jmbuckhunter 08-26-2008 04:49 PM

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This is the thread I have been waiting for!! I sure hope everyone reads this. Because we get some ummmmm....crappy looking pictures entered into the contest every year. It doesn't take that much effort to get really good ones.:)

Maybe we should deduct inches for bad trophy Pictures!!

mauser06 08-26-2008 04:54 PM

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thanx matt! love this post...i learn something every year i "should have done"

biggest thing is finding a "camera man" and someone that CARES about taking pics....i need a mini tripod to throw in my pack...i gotta look at some and order one here soon...many times turkey hunting i dont have anyone around and cant get field pics at 6am...usually got it cleaned before anyone wakes up or im stuck with "in the backyard" pics...

really gotta work on proping them up this year...i usually just pick up the head and have pics taken...like you say...just looks D E A D

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-26-2008 05:18 PM

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I love this thread as well. Quality photos should be a priority. It always seems the biggest bucks ever killed have the worst photos.

Take the Beatty Buck. The only known photograph of it circulated with him in the back of his truck in a parking lot in jeans and a camo coat.

They then had to airbrush it to make it presentable in all his advertising.



KIDD642 08-26-2008 05:23 PM

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That is a great thread. The guy is a stud [8D]:Dseriously great reminder to all. good info.

Pops423 08-26-2008 05:37 PM

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Thanks Matt!!! Great thread as always.

Mauser, find yourself a stump or fallen Log. That's how my Dad and I did it last year. Set his camera on the log with a timer. Came out really nice.

thehairlessone! 08-26-2008 07:03 PM

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great thread. Alot of people dont take the time to take a couple good photos and it is time you can never get back.

rick

NCRemington700 08-26-2008 07:30 PM

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Thanks again Matt. I took this thread to heart last year and now I have some great photos to remember the season by...does, buck, coyote...they all got their picture taken. Every animal shot with a bow is a trophy to me. Great job and thank you.

Transcendstime 08-26-2008 08:49 PM

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One thing I can recommend too.... Get a copy of a digital editing program (Photoshop etc) With in a couple hours you can learn to digitally edit pics (color balances, lighten and darken different areas to enchance them, etc etc)in a few minutes.



ahunter55 08-26-2008 09:23 PM

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This is one of some of my best friends in late 50s. They have all passed but I think it is a great photo.


JasonI 08-26-2008 09:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: Transcendstime

One thing I can recommend too.... Get a copy of a digital editing program (Photoshop etc) With in a couple hours you can learn to digitally edit pics (color balances, lighten and darken different areas to enchance them, etc etc)in a few minutes.


I recommend photo shop elements, which is a few hundred bucks cheaper than full blown photo shop and should be more than powerful enough for most of us. Or if your on a budget and want something more than elements try "The GIMP" a free photo editing program.

TEmbry 08-26-2008 10:48 PM

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My number one all time favorite post:)

I try my best, but never end up satisfied with the end results no matter how much I try lol

mobow 08-27-2008 04:35 AM

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Thanks, Matt! I'm particularly fond of the "Indian style" pose.....:D

txjourneyman 08-27-2008 05:26 AM

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How about some tips for those of us that hunt alone? I do my best with setting the timer on my Canon Powershot and setting the camera on my pack or something but getting a "quality" shot is something I haven't gotten close to yet. Any suggestions?

NCRemington700 08-27-2008 06:16 AM

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I usually set the camera on my backpack, a log, or a pile of rocks...set the timer...and run back behind the deer if I'm by myself.

Matt / PA 08-27-2008 07:55 AM

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This is the slickest little item.........and the one I mentioned in my original post:

http://www.savagearchery.com/store.php?crn=58

Look on the right side of the screen, it's called the "Pocket Pod" You take 3 arrows and stick the nocks into grooves on the bottom of the little tri-pod head that has a standard camera screw adapter in the bottom. They pivot and swivel too so you can actually angle how you want to set the "tripod" and camera.

It weighs a couple ounces at most and if you throw that and 3 field points in a small baggie in your pack you have an instant cheap arse tripod that you can jam into the dirt in pretty much any terrain.

I'm going to order another one myself because I keep misplacing the one I have. :D


txjourneyman 08-27-2008 08:50 AM

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I'll be getting one of those soon! Thanks!

Vito1 08-27-2008 09:12 AM

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Great post, Matt. I know some don't care about the photo or taking a photo at all, but to me, the photo is more precious than the mount. Something about that moment being frozen in time. Quality photos are very important to me. Again, great post!

One thing I can't stress enough is, KNOW YOUR CAMERA. You can take professional looking photos with some of the cheapest digitals out today. Now is the time to read the manual and experiment with the settings so you don't screw up the photo of your "buck of a lifetime". Or your buddies.;)

GMMAT 08-27-2008 09:32 AM

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Thnaks, Matt...;)

One thing I'm going to try to do a better job of is.....taking more pictures of the recovery. That photo from last year....with the buck on his side and the arrow sticking up....might just be the best hunting photo I've ever seen. Kudos to the CAMERAMAN! Nice forethought;)

I took a LOT of pictures of my '07 buck....and I still thought there were some that I wish I'd had. Live and learn, but learn from everyone else's mistakes.

Thanks again, Matt.

ron3775 08-27-2008 10:47 AM

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Last year for the contest there was also a photo contest. I tried searching for it but couldn't find it. I will continue searching, but if someone else can find it first, there was some great examples of good pics there too.

PreacherTony 08-27-2008 10:52 AM

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[8D]


Matt / PA 08-27-2008 01:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

[8D]


I agree good example........however although the picture is well composed there are 2 things which would have made it even better, and 8X10 worthy even if 1/2 of the subject matter isn't very attractive.

1. Time and date stamp........if it's not a trail camera people turn that function off. :eek::D
2. FILL FLASH. See how the shadows are so strong on the bow, the face etc. A fill flash would preserve the lighting while making the shadows fill with light and color.



Vito1 08-27-2008 02:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
1. Time and date stamp........if it's not a trail camera people turn that function off. :eek::D
2. FILL FLASH. See how the shadows are so strong on the bow, the face etc. A fill flash would preserve the lighting while making the shadows fill with light and color.
Good suggestions. I would also suggest a couple things. Not picking on you at all, Tony, just making suggestions of what I would do.:) It is mearly an opinion.

1. For a field picture, the rack shows up well if the sky is the background. Finding a high spot in the field works well for this. If this isn't possible, a uniform background will work. For example, in this picture the corn field andwoods are behind the rack. Using only the corn field or the woods will give it a more uniform background. I think this highlights the rack better and its easier to see.

2.This kind of goes with #1. Make sure your equipment is not infront of or behind the rack.

Oneshot7 08-27-2008 03:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vito1


ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
1. Time and date stamp........if it's not a trail camera people turn that function off. :eek::D
2. FILL FLASH. See how the shadows are so strong on the bow, the face etc. A fill flash would preserve the lighting while making the shadows fill with light and color.
Good suggestions. I would also suggest a couple things. Not picking on you at all, Tony, just making suggestions of what I would do.:) It is mearly an opinion.

1. For a field picture, the rack shows up well if the sky is the background. Finding a high spot in the field works well for this. If this isn't possible, a uniform background will work. For example, in this picture the corn field andwoods are behind the rack. Using only the corn field or the woods will give it a more uniform background. I think this highlights the rack better and its easier to see.

2.This kind of goes with #1. Make sure your equipment is not infront of or behind the rack.
You dont have to apoligize, that is Mobow's deer.......don't you know tony cant kill anything that big :D:D:D;)
JK buddy

rybohunter 08-28-2008 02:04 PM

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Good point on the Fill Flash. I really put that to good use on some vacation photos this summer. What a difference and so easy to forget to use.

TEmbry 08-28-2008 03:14 PM

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I forgot the fill flash on my pronghorn this week, my whole face is shadowed.[:@]

Always something to find about a photo that you dont like, no matter how miniscule.

I dont worry much about wiping the blood from the nozzle because this can easily be fixed with a basic photo editer. I cleaned up my SD pic and it is unnoticeable, but alot more presentable.

DoePeeSteve 09-02-2008 12:43 PM

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Good post. Reminds me who NOT to give the camera to this year (if I'm lucky enough to score another)!

Hunter20084 09-02-2008 06:31 PM

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nice pics

MILLERTIME10 09-04-2008 11:51 AM

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I am also a big fan of this thread. I think it helps to represent our sport and passion better to the overall public. It also gives a sense of pride when you have a nice photo to show to all your buddies.

Here are a couple photos that I am most proud of. I know there are some things to work on, I am still trying to improve my field shots every year. I am up for any criticism or ideas on how to improve.





Vito1 09-04-2008 01:14 PM

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MILLERTIME10,

I love the angle/setup of the deer in the first one. The only critique I can make is if you can have moved from behind the antlers. Probably would have to sit lower or lay down behind the buck or moved to the left side of the photo. You can tell you made an effort to take a nice photo and it shows. The second photo is well done especially for being a night photo. Not a whole lot you can do with it and you guys did a good job. The stick infront of the buck's left ear should be removed in the photo and still can with a little photoshop work.

Again, good effort on both photos!

Edit: I took about 1 minute to remove the stick and some vegetation from in front of the buck. It may be a small detail to some, but I notice stuff like that.



Western MA Hunter 09-04-2008 06:02 PM

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MILLERTIME10 09-05-2008 01:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Vito1

MILLERTIME10,

I love the angle/setup of the deer in the first one. The only critique I can make is if you can have moved from behind the antlers. Probably would have to sit lower or lay down behind the buck or moved to the left side of the photo. You can tell you made an effort to take a nice photo and it shows. The second photo is well done especially for being a night photo. Not a whole lot you can do with it and you guys did a good job. The stick infront of the buck's left ear should be removed in the photo and still can with a little photoshop work.

Again, good effort on both photos!

Edit: I took about 1 minute to remove the stick and some vegetation from in front of the buck. It may be a small detail to some, but I notice stuff like that.


Thanks Vito1, I appreciate it. Man...that photoshop stuff is amazing. I am going to have to have someone show me how to work that stuff one of these days. I have never used it before and didn't realize you could change a picture like that. You could really take an average picture and turn it into a good picture.

fatsbucknut 10-13-2008 03:58 PM

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I had another pose i liked better but realized after the fact that the tongue was hanging out.


pa_yote_hunter 10-16-2008 03:15 PM

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all pics are of the same deer. This is basically my first attempt at a field photo. I have learned alot by this thread every year and i love it. I am proud of these pics, but know they can be better



same image, just cropped



Matt / PA 10-16-2008 08:18 PM

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A couple more from this past weekend.........
My doe: (I would have like a LITTLE less blood but this one just wasn't cleaning up. LOL)



Rick James' buck:


Bowtech Dave 10-16-2008 09:53 PM

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This is one of my favorites from this past turkey season. I tend to think that if I actually smiled the picture would be be waaaaayyyyy better.



This pic below is one from this years Elk season in NM. I liked this pose the best, but it could have been a bit closer. Not to mention her head weighed a ton. A bit tough holding it up! ;)



I am all ears so feel free to tell me what you think. I couldn't agree more with Matt that quality photos will keep the memories alive for a life time.

So far I really like the photo of Matt and his Doe the best. Congrats my friend.

Dave

ICALL2MUCH 10-31-2008 07:47 AM

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Here is one I took this past spring.



Here is a doe I shot last saturday...


Rob/PA Bowyer 11-02-2008 11:08 AM

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vichris 11-10-2008 09:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer






Great pic Rob.......If you have PhotoShop or some other photog software you can use the redeye feature to take that little bit of blood off of his mouth.


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