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Folks, I really want to thank you all so far for the replies. I had a good laugh at Fletch' s comment and many of you gave me some perceptions of the situation that I had not considered when posting the original topic.

Now, to further stir the proverbial pot, lets say that the bow did not have an advertised IBO or AMO speed....

...and I just have to comment on JRW and krisken' s subdiscussion. I think what krisken is trying to say is that with the flat trajectory that some of today' s bows produce, it is entirely possible to sight a bow in for 24-26 yards and then effectively use that one pin out to a 30 yard distance with the understanding that it will be an inch or so high at 20 yards and an inch or two low at 30. That is still enough of an error of estimate to be called " point of aim" when considering the size of the pin heads on most fiber optic sights in relation to how much of the target said pinhead covers up, visually, at the distances mentioned......and yet the bow still does not offer a perfectly flat trajectory in the sense it is a straight line as I think JRW is suggesting.

Yes?

C!!!!

I will jump on board with some others here who know that confidence in your equipment will kill more deer than the fastest bow on earth! I had more than enough speed out of my 20+ year old Black Bear bow shooting spitfire mechs to do the job. I got my first bow kill from equipment I was confident with and had practiced my butt off with. To be honest, I had practiced so much with it, that the entire process of the shot was totally natural.

Confidence and practice with a modern compound bow are what kills deer, not speed, not KE or any other factor such as arrow type or broadhead, as long as you are shooting a modern compound with arrows and broadhead weights that match your bow and you are confident in your equipment and have practiced you will kill deer.

Another words Joe was an idiot for buying into the hype of the bow manufacturers that you have to have SPEED! He was perfectly happy with his bow that would have killed as many deer as he would have ever wanted until he shot it through the chronograph, then he was unhappy because it didn' t shoot as FAST as what he thought it would. I will never shoot my bow through a chronograph nor any other bow I may own in the future, as long as I practice and am confident, I will kill deer!

Buck Magnet, when you put quotes around a phrase, it' s generally supposed to represent an exact quote. Now, see if you can spot the difference here...


" the folks who are more worried about speed than anything else are a different group of folks than the ones who consistently kill nice deer"

and...

" people who are into speed don' t consistently kill nice deer"

But don' t let reality slow ya down when you' re trying to make a point. [&:]




LOL JRW, I can picture krisken' s arrows in my head, looping around trees, over obstacles, etc. Must be nice.

Oh man, you guys are hot over this one. Someone needs to serve some cool iced Tea around here.

I would have to go with " c" .
Instead of more speed, he may want the increased power that comes from speed.
On my deer lease a run in with a 200# boar is just as likely as a ten point buck. In order to shoot mechanicals for whitetails and still expect full penetration on a big pig, increased KE is needed. Plus the extra KE of a faster arrow or heavier arrow at the same speed could make the differance on an iffy shot. Say a shoulder shot when the deer moved at the last second while releasing. Marginal Ke might not penetrate far enough in to reach the vitals as to were an increased KE setup might make a good thing out of a bad situation.

This thread reminds me of the one guy who bought the faulty dual cam bowtech that wasn' t up to his standards. I would have been mad just as he was to pay mucho bucks for little to no gain.

6pt

I always read between the lines. I don' t know if it is because I am crosseyed or what [&:][&:][8D]

BM I read to the left and the right of the lines, talk about confusing!

Kristen- I understand what you are saying, however even your SUPER SPEED bow WILL not hit the same spot from 0-30yds without compensating, you will either be high at 10 or low at 30. Now with YOUR setup I realize the point of impact is minimal, may be a few inches. But when you lower that speed from the 340' s to the 280-90' s you will see a much greater variance in point of impact. And that 280-90 range I would consider FAST for a HUNTING setup. I think you tried to take my point and twist it. Obviously, you don' t need a lesson from ME, just clarifying by previous post.

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Maybe Joe should have bought his bow from a shop that had a chronograph if speed was one of his criteria for buying a bow. At the price of new bows I think I would have satisfyed all of my requirements before putting my money down.