hillbilly archer

If it is used RIGHT, then anyone should be able to use it, woman, child, strong or weak. No sense it making it harder than it is.

GMMAT

Hillbilly....

If it's used RIGHT.....it'll take 20 minutes to get to the desired height.

I'm giving a real-life review of what I think of this stand......not a one-sided "All hail LW" endorsement. If I use the sit and climb bar every time (of course I'll use it......some).....this stand becomes VERY "marginal". I'm trying to maximize the advantageous aspects.

Used RIGHT....the increments in which one could ascend would be very small.

Germ

Being I have used it in real life, it does not take 20 mins for me to get to 20+ feet.

Now if were talking setup up in there also, then yes it takes me 15-20 mins

GMMAT

You guys are wanting pick apart EVERY statement that doesn't paint this thing in the perfect light.

OK...let's make it easier.

Can you climb faster.....using it as a hand climber....or using it as a sit and climb?

However long it takes.....(______) minutes.....you're adding those minutes by using the bar and by limiting yourself to the short bites/increments.

Holy ****ing **** you guys are sensitive......lol.

Brett/IL

I have not read all nine pages so forgive me if I echo what has already been said, but I have used this stand for three seasons now I have never owned a better climbing stand. I am 6'1 240 lbs. and I use the sit and climb method everytime I hunt. I usually hunt 18-25 feet off the ground and sure in the heck doesn't take me 20 min. to get where I want to be. The stand is light, quiet, and VERY easy to use. I have owned climbing stands made by Summit, API and Ol' Man. The LW is light years ahead of any of them as far as being the best all around climber out there in my eyes. Not an endorsement, just facts from someone who spends a lot of time hunting and has used several different climbers.

Matt / PA

Jeff exactly what is it about the Sit and Climb bar that makes it slower to climb with?

Maybe I just didn't see it in there, but I'm seriously not picturing how the increments that you go up the tree would be any different than with say a Summit with the straight bar?

You should have "X" number of feet or amount of distance between your butt and yourtoes for each pull of the platform regardless of where your butt is located to start with right? You're still reaching down the same amount wether your straight out or suspended a bit with the upper a bit above your hips?

I'm honestly a little confused why it would be harder/slower?

GMMAT

If you SIT and climb......you have the distance from how far you can raise your knees from your sitting position. That's ALL you have.

Do we agree on that?

If used as designed, I agree.....BUT.....

Now....as a hand climber (which is how I utlilize the summit, too)....I can raise the upper (seat portion of the climber) up to about shoulder height. I can then push up with my feet and push up with my arms. I can get a LOT more from each "increment", this way.

I hope I described that clearly.

As far as the increments between the straight summit bar and the LW bar......kind of a non-issue. I don't use either of them as they're designed. Too much work....and too slow.

Carpmaster

I agree...sometimes this site should be titled "Elitist Yes Man Net"

Matt / PA

Ok gotcha.......I thought you were using the Summit as a Sit to climb as well and were comparing apples to apples.

Why the heck didn't you just buy a Summit Cobra or the Hand climber LW??

BowHuntingFool

He had to prove to eveyone that he wouldn't like it!!!!!!lol