Speed bows vs Block 4 x 4 vs Glendale Buck
 

When I purchased my X Force TS I also picked up a couple new targets, a Block 4 x 4 and a Glen Dale Buck. I knew I would be shooting more than normal so I wanted to get the best target out there.

Couple of questions regarding these targets:

1. Are they not built for speed bows?
2. Aren't they rated for so many shots before pass thru occurs?
3. Can the mfgr. tell approx. how many shots have been put into the target.

The reason I ask this is because the other day while shooting I noticed my arrows going deeper and deeper into the targets and then just a few minutes ago while I was shooting I had three arrows go completely thru the target into my backstop. Now granted the passthru areas are the heart of the Glen Dale and the center spot on the Block but I would bet the farm that less than 300 (way less, probably more like 200) shots have hit these areas. I shoot them both about equally, I have the Glen Dale set up in my backyard and use the Block when I go to the ball field to practice longer distances.

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annika3 will be along sometime to defend his precious product (even though he claims he has NOTHING to do with the company anymore, but it's funny that he's on every Field Logic thread around here).

Let's put it this way. I was walking around a huge Gander Mountain this past week, and I overhead several people saying they'd never own one again while we were looking at targets. You don't even have to dig too hard around here on this forum to find very unsatisfied users with that product, from people complaining about busted arrows to pass thus way too early like yourself.

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I found a Glen Del Full Rut target 3 years ago for $80 that had both antlers the same side. No big deal I bought it and have shot countless arrows into it. It has the 4 sided insert that you can switch around but I have only shot one side the last 3 years. I am very happy with it, especially the price I paid for it. Now,mybow is not a "speed bow". The only time I ever chronoed it it shot low 260 range with my hunting setup. But I've never had a pass through and I never shoot broadheads into it. I leave it set up on my archery range with another 3d target, a bag and a broadhead target but I do try to cover it so its not in the weather so much. I think they would last longer that way.

I have neverowned a block 4X4, I assume its designed similar. I dunno, but I really like mine.

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None of the layered foam targets are all that great and wear out relatively quickly with only field points much less broadheads. Block, black hole, Glendel, and all the numerous nock off's and "store brand" targets.

Get a designated field point target and a designated solid foam (not styrofoam) broadhead target.

Spyderweb targets will stop thousands upon thousands upon thousandsof field tips and you will likely never have to buy another bag targetfor the rest of your life.
A target like the kompound kings from American Whitetail will work as well or better than any of teh layered targets at stopping broadheads and they aren't all that costly. If you do this you will save a good deal of money in the long run even though it costs a little more upfront.

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Welcome to the wonderful world of speed bows. They eat targets plain and simple. I'm currently using the Rhinehart 18-1, so far I like it but its only 3 months old. I'm going to look into a spyderweb, have not had any luck with the Morrell bag targets, they don't even last a year. I've owned the Block, The Cube and The Black Hole and they are all a waste of money IMO.

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I think the Block came out with a new target rated to 400fps. Elite?? I think that's what it is called.

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I'll never buy a block target again! I'm not very happy with mine!

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Get a Rinehart 18-1 and be done with it. These targets are the best ones going IMO. I'm not familair with the spiderweb ones, and they very well may be better than the Rinehart. The Rinehart comes with a 1 year warranty, any pass throughs after 1 year and they replace it, regardless of tip type and shot count. I was extremely disappointed with my Block target too, not I just use it a couple times a year for broadheads. There is a new one for speed bows, but you better go to the bank first for a second mortgage to buy the damn things.

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Seriously Ratus, what is your problem. Did I take you ball away in second grade and you're holding a grudge. I PM'd you to discuss, PLEASE call me.

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I wanna try one of these so bad, I just don't need one now. But when I get the need for another I will buy one to see. What I'm interested in is shooting broadheads, usually target life is low when shooting broadheads.

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seems someone needs to come up with new target designs...

wait....that would be dumb of them lol....they KNOW that we gotta shoot and need targets to do so....

its just getting harder and harder to stop an arrow...

i dont think SPEED has much to do with it though...other than maybe deeper penetration, speed isnt doing much to targets...not like a bullet hitting the target and expanding and destroying with shock waves...

just volume of shots...

maybe better accuracy leading to tighter groups...lol im reaching...i dont know...but dont know that speed is the problem...exspecially with foam type targets...




hillbilly, im in the same boat....im dying to buy a 18 in 1...JUST to get a free one lol...i keep repairing my bag and foam BH target...i'll get by this year...and next spring before i leave for my season of work, i plan to buy one to take with me....i honestly think they will be shipping me a free one within 6 months...i dont see it standing upto broadhead use...nothing does...its probably impossible..broadheads cut..plain and simple. but, they say they guarentee it...soooo sooner or later i'll test it....i wanna read the wording of the warrenty too...might be a tricky one to get made good...

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Then you should have bought a Spyderweb. ;)

Nothing beats them for field points... I think the last one we used at the factory took something like 60,000 shots as we filled out birth certificates on the new bows before boxing them up? I've got a couple of them down here in the lower level of my house I use to blank-bale with or to do some back-tension work on... I've POUNDED them with everything from my big, fat 3d arrows to slamming ACC's in them with my 82nd Airborne at 67 lbs... still get less than four inches of penetration on it.

If you're wanting to shoot at a 3d target with field points, find a Morrell Bionic Buck... not quite as durable as a Spyderweb, but beats everything else out there hands-down.

I too will be picking up a Rhinehart 18-in-1 for my broadheads soon. Currently, I use a Morrell Yellowjacket and I think it's done extremely well for the money I paid for it.

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Spyderweb rocks. I just purchashed a 6 shooter by Morrell. Claims easy arrow removal. It wasn't so a call to them got me another new one. They said it must have been one that was mis labeled. Havn't been able to shoot it yet as myAllegence is waiting new limbs and cams.

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its really funny i read this post today. Just this moring i took a few shots, and i have the BLOCK the white/black one, anyway.. for the FIRST time ever i noticed that the arrows are peeking through the back now, about 2-4 inches stickin out. since im new to archery and dont practice THat much, i would say that target has about 350-450 shot MAX. and i only shoot field points, was gonna start with the practice heads (rage2 and Muzzy) that i got. crazy i thought.. I leave the BLOCK outside, and it was hot out, and very humid around here, and latley the arrows come out rather easier, and i was thinkin it was cuz of the weather perhaps.. call me crazy.. but does anyone think the weather has anything to do with the block? like softeing it up.. is that a word.? softeing.. or whatever.. you know what i mean.

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I just googles that Rinehard Rhino block 18-1. THats Kickass. i want one.. thats like the same price i paid for my Block.

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For the record, I have yet to shoot broadhead into either target

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It says on their website if you shoot through ALL 18 sides within one year then they will give you a free one.SO, you can't just shoot through the big sides, gotta shoot through all those small 45 degree places, lol.