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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: GMMAT No one did, Tony. I answered your question. You asked (in an interrogative form...)... I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by :eek: I then added that "I" OR ANYONE ELSE shouldn't need to worry about what anyone else thinks about why we take a legal deer. Kinda goes back to the "shoot what you want" thing, doesn't it?;) The deer (fawn) in question is taken legally. It serves a purpose. I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally. What the problem with this scenario? |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360 First of all, nobody told me to take a fawn for the expierence. I would be thrilled with a fawn for a first. How do I explain being happy with a fawn but more happy with a giant buck or even a mature doe? Its not about the prize at the end its how you got there. When I went to the bowshop yesturday and I paid with my own money that I had earned, It made me feel good. When I take a deer with equipment that I paid for, and scouted, and patterned the deer, that is the icing on the cake. PT, I dont listen to anyone on which deer I take. I aggree with GMMT because I also believe that getting the first kill is important so your ready for larger deer. He didnt put the idea of shooting a fawn into my head. You stated you would be thrilled, so you don't fit that mold ... |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Tony where do you come up with these things (vividly wild scenarios)that have NO purpose in this discussion? You're surprising me.
Explain how my hunting and yours is "different" (to one another)....other than the fact that you enjoy killing. but you possibly did when you justified another's response to ,"get one under the belt" no matter what it is ... .....then yeah....I think he should take the first ethical shot that he gets. I'd tell (and have told) my son the exact same thing. I'd tell ANYONE getting started in deer hunting the same thing. You seem to want to discard my caveat to make your point. That's unfair....and a misrepresentation of my advice. so a man can kill deer and let them rot, and that wouldn't be wrong in your opinion? Or he could kill them and let them sit in his freezer until he throws them out??? How about the guy that hunts to brag to everyone else what he's killed?? There IS such a thing as "the wrong reason" |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
I would be thrilled with a fawn for a first. |
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ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360 I really dont want my first kill to bea fawn. But Im shooting the first thing that walks by my stand. |
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I really did not want my first deer to be a 7-pointer. I wanted it to be a 10-pointer.
But I shot the 7-pointer with NO REGRETS. |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360 I really dont want my first kill to bea fawn. But Im shooting the first thing that walks by my stand. |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
How about this..... Advice to beginners..... It is recommended to shootat the 1st legal deer that gives you a good chance. BUT if said deer is one that you really wouldn't be happy with, don't shoot. HOWEVER, if looking to gain overall experience, you might not want to be too picky or you'll restrict yourself from experiencing everything that is involved with killing a deer.
And Jeff, I have one teeny nit pick with a common theme of yours. The whole "mile of difference between shooting at a deer and putting it on the ground". For many that may be true, but for some that mile can be more expressed in feet or inches. If bowtech360 "passes" on a deer & Rob "passes" on a deer. I think the deer in Rob's situation came MUCH closer to death had he decided to shoot. Like I said it's a small nit pick, and many times your phrase holds true, but not always. |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360 I really dont want my first kill to bea fawn. But Im shooting the first thing that walks by my stand. |
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PT, why do you care why someone takes an animal, if they are happy with it who cares. Who here wasnt happy with thier first kill no matter what it was?
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
And Jeff, I have one teeny nit pick with a common theme of yours. The whole "mile of difference between shooting at a deer and putting it on the ground". For many that may be true, but for some that mile can be more expressed in feet or inches. If bowtech360 "passes" on a deer & Rob "passes" on a deer. I think the deer in Rob's situation came MUCH closer to death had he decided to shoot. Like I said it's a small nit pick, and many times your phrase holds true, but not always. But someone who's never killed one has NO IDEA of what lies between saying they "passed" on one and saying they "killed" one. I'm cynical in the fact that I've witnessed firsthand, now.....even after shooting a couple....that there IS a huge gap between those statements, sometimes. Having a deer in bow range and getting an ethical shot......sometimes a huge gap. Having an ethical shot and being able to get drawn, undetected, ....sometimes a huge gap. Getting a shot and hitting your target.....sometimes a huge gap. Hitting your target and being disciplined enough to know what to do, then, to ensure (to the best of your abilities) a successful recovery......sometimes a huge gap. It's not a stretch in my mind. But to the guys who've gone through this a LOT......NO WAY I question them when they say they "passed" on a deer. I trust their experience and, like I said....take it at face value. If ROb tells me he "passed" on a deer.....I know he could have been dragging if he'd wanted to.;) |
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Agreed!
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony He clarified that later .... the discussionmoved tothe metality of getting one under the belt ..... We all would love to shoot the next world record ...... That being said Ihave passed on a lotmore deer than usual the past 3 seasons simply because I didn't want to shoot one that day or I had already killed earlier in the week and still had work to do to finish processing, yeah I was out hunting but I had no real intention of killing unless it had been something extraordinary so it goes both ways(in the past I would kill them all and just give the meat I couldn't deal withaway, I don't really feel the needto do thatanymore).jmho |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360 PT, why do you care why someone takes an animal, if they are happy with it who cares. Who here wasnt happy with thier first kill no matter what it was? |
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I would advise against your advice ;).... you haven't cleared it up for me .. your reason makes no sense .... I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by :eek: there is no respect for the animal or the sport with that mentality To take it to put the initial notch in your belt is disgusting to me ....  |
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I wouldn't even think of shooting a fawn.The one exception to that would be if it were seriously injured.
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Jeff .... deer hunting to you is totally different than it is to me ... |
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ORIGINAL: tsoc I wouldn't even think of shooting a fawn.The one exception to that would be if it were seriously injured. |
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ORIGINAL: bigcountry ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Jeff .... deer hunting to you is totally different than it is to me ... |
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Jeff .... deer hunting to you is totally different than it is to me ... |
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ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: bigcountry ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Jeff .... deer hunting to you is totally different than it is to me ... Now Jeff, what is deer hunting to you? |
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I feel what pt says about the magic of hunting but if I had a tag to fill and a 6-7 month old came in right in front of a rattle snake I`d shoot em both
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Now Jeff, what is deer hunting to you? 2. Achieving my goals I set forth in the pre-season. 3. The owl I got to see. The fox. The raccoon. They all didn't know I was in their house. 4. Knowing I worked hard to know whereto be that day....and having confidence in my stand choice. 5. Knowing I don't need a light to get to where I'm going in the dark......and not using it if I have it. 6. Wondering why (although I know) it gets colder when it should be getting warmer as the woods come to life. 7. Hurrying to get home to tell Lisa of everything I saw. 8. Having a degree of pity for those who will NEVER see what's right out most of their back doors. 9. Watching a deer bed down in bow range and never reaching for the bow. 10. Calling my friends to tell them what "we" just killed. 11. Being able to recall the basic 3/3 time tempo of the 'Star Spangled Banner' as I type my response.;) "Totally different;) |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Seen alot of reasons to shoot fawns over the years and will give congrats to anyone who is happy with their kill.
As far as me shooting one after the great DNR deer massacre of northern Michigan, and knowing they are dirt dumb without their mother around, you would be more likely to see me shooting squirrels nests with a shotgun, stomping turkey chicks, or stuffing firecrackers up a frogs Ass. Its notgonna happen! |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
No way...them things are way to cute to shoot!
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Would I take a fawn...no probably not If my freezer way empty and was late in the season...yes
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Deer hunting is tradition .. it is the smell of the biting fall as it creeps in after the summer ... it is the turning of the leaves, the falling of acorns .... it is the fellowship with family and friends, the excitement of conversation that has 100% of everyone;s attention....... it's the final planning to where everyone is going that morning ... it is walking in the dark to my stand, listening for deer that I may have bumped ..... it is the ascention up my steps to my seat in the tree that I will be hoping to ambush a deer from ..... it is the anticipation of what can happen at any second ..... it's the sunrise ...... it is the scurrying of squirrels as they hurry to prepare for the upcoming winter .... it is a hot cup of coffee on an ice cold deer stand .....it's the crunching of leaves as I hear the unmistakable sound of a deer walking towards me ..... it's the heart pumping out of my chest as a deer comes by ... it's the joy of watching those animals that will not bi in danger by my stand .....it's a deer that is a shooter to me, coming down the path I expected him to ...... it's the preperation for the shot as he walks into range ..... it's the pulling on the trigger ....release or gun .... it's watching the deer's ensuing fight for it's last breath ...it's the climb down and the wlking up to the deer.... it's the appreciation to a mighty God for allowing me to take all that I just posted in .... it's the phone call to the womenfolk and friends that couldn't be there, telling them what just happened it's the pictures afterwords and the dinner and discussion of the day's events ...... it's ALL that and more .......to me :) YA RIGHT ! You know damn well it's all about the Whack the arrow makes as it passes through a deer, and the massive amounts of beer the night before around the campfire and thats it ! ;) |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Now Jeff, what is deer hunting to you? 2. Achieving my goals I set forth in the pre-season. 3. The owl I got to see. The fox. The raccoon. They all didn't know I was in their house. 4. Knowing I worked hard to know whereto be that day....and having confidence in my stand choice. 5. Knowing I don't need a light to get to where I'm going in the dark......and not using it if I have it. 6. Wondering why (although I know) it gets colder when it should be getting warmer as the woods come to life. 7. Hurrying to get home to tell Lisa of everything I saw. 8. Having a degree of pity for those who will NEVER see what's right out most of their back doors. 9. Watching a deer bed down in bow range and never reaching for the bow. 10. Calling my friends to tell them what "we" just killed. 11. Being able to recall the basic 3/3 time tempo of the 'Star Spangled Banner' as I type my response.;) "Totally different;) |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Deer hunting is tradition .. it is the smell of the biting fall as it creeps in after the summer ... it is the turning of the leaves, the falling of acorns .... it is the fellowship with family and friends, the excitement of conversation that has 100% of everyone;s attention....... it's the final planning to where everyone is going that morning ... it is walking in the dark to my stand, listening for deer that I may have bumped ..... it is the ascention up my steps to my seat in the tree that I will be hoping to ambush a deer from ..... it is the anticipation of what can happen at any second ..... it's the sunrise ...... it is the scurrying of squirrels as they hurry to prepare for the upcoming winter .... it is a hot cup of coffee on an ice cold deer stand .....it's the crunching of leaves as I hear the unmistakable sound of a deer walking towards me ..... it's the heart pumping out of my chest as a deer comes by ... it's the joy of watching those animals that will not bi in danger by my stand .....it's a deer that is a shooter to me, coming down the path I expected him to ...... it's the preperation for the shot as he walks into range ..... it's the pulling on the trigger ....release or gun .... it's watching the deer's ensuing fight for it's last breath ...it's the climb down and the wlking up to the deer.... it's the appreciation to a mighty God for allowing me to take all that I just posted in .... it's the phone call to the womenfolk and friends that couldn't be there, telling them what just happened it's the pictures afterwords and the dinner and discussion of the day's events ...... it's ALL that and more .......to me :) YA RIGHT ! You know damn well it's all about the Whack the arrow makes as it passes through a deer, and the massive amounts of beer the night before around the campfire and thats it ! ;) |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Im not in this thread, but Im going to answer a question that I left unanswered with Jeff yesterday.
10. Calling my friends to tell them what "we" just killed. |
RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
I have not one it yet, but if I was down to my last couple of weeks, and I had yet to put one in the freezer, you bet I would.
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