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seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
OK first i know it is beyond illegal and unethical to shoot from a vehicle or even when you on a road. not my question.
I have been driving either looking for a pull off or field or area that looks like it might be a spot to scout. Every time i go scouting i see at least one or two field that have good size deer in them. If you where driving came up on a bean fieldsaw deer on public property would you drive up alittle park get out. walk make to field. Then walk in the woods say 20 feet and take a shot if the deer were still there. I think here you can not hunt with in 10 feet of a road so i would move atleast 20 if i could i know this might be hard with a bow. but what if you had a rifle or a muzzleloader. Give you answer for bow ml and a shotgun or rifle. if it differs. |
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If you guys go against this statement you are against hunting....."if it is legal, I might not do it, but hey if it floats your boat, go for it!"
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I don't care how big the buck is i wouldn't take the shot, because if i can't earn it buy scouting the way hunting is meant to be .If you have to drive around looking at fields to find a nice buck to shoot in my opion your not much of a hunter.
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No, I wouldn't shoot. It would actually never cross my mind.
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If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? :eek: Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.
I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question. Tim |
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It's a regular practice insome Canadian provinces! I do not call that "hunting" though.[:'(][:'(][:'(][>:][>:]
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Bigtim you gotta spend more time in the woods. And less time behind the keyboard:eek:
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
if it's legal go ahead. Personally I wouldn't, but that's just me
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wow big a big change in the responds from the bow forum to the muzzle loader forum.
Now guys your got me wrong. i do not or would not drive around glassing fields until i found deer in one. What i meant and the guys in the ml forum got this not sure why you did not. Is if i am driving to one of my spots. which very from 300 yards in to 1/2 mile in and see a deer in a field i would park up the road walk in the wood to the field and see if i could stalk or just get a long range shot. I would not shoot from the road or my truck. i would not drive around till i found a deer be it a buck or doe. I just mean if i see one in one of the many food plot field the back road in the fish and wildlife area. i might want to shoot it. |
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i spend alot of time in the woods. heck in three days i walked 5 miles. which for around here it is alot.
I have no proplem with scouting. i do it alot. I learnt my lesson on that when i started ORIGINAL: sandilands Bigtim you gotta spend more time in the woods. And less time behind the keyboard:eek: |
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what if you had scouted that field and it was one of your spot you were just head to another. what if you got there to hunt the field and there was a deer there when you showed up would you leave
The fields i am talking about are all fields i plan to hunt on public land. I do not mean to drive around till i see a deer. ORIGINAL: arrow2512 I don't care how big the buck is i wouldn't take the shot, because if i can't earn it buy scouting the way hunting is meant to be .If you have to drive around looking at fields to find a nice buck to shoot in my opion your not much of a hunter. |
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Tim you have a PM
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I can't even understanding how that would be fun and/or challenging.
But, if others do, and want to use their tags that way, and it is legal and ethical...to each their own - do it. |
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i got it sent youn one back
ORIGINAL: sandilands Tim you have a PM |
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i never said it was fun or challenging. i think sneaking up on a deer in a field is challanging
ORIGINAL: Orion in IL I can't even understanding how that would be fun and/or challenging. But, if others do, and want to use their tags that way, and it is legal and ethical...to each their own - do it. |
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Besides being illegal in just about every state I know of.... the biggest thing is... it's just down right dangerous. You have no idea who's around, who's sitting in the hedgerow behind the animal or anything. I had one of the scariest incidents involving just such a senerio many years ago. I had returned from 2 tours of dodging bullets in Vietnam. I left the service and was living in Georgia. I had this woods that was great and secluded except for a dirt road down one side of it. One particular morning I was hunting about 125 yards off the road in a pine head. It was a big open set of pines with a thicket down one side and at the back. I was sitting near the intersection of the two thickets in the back corner. I was glassing and saw some does come across the road walking in my direction. I wasn't looking for doe meat that day so just relaxed and watched the parade of 8 does. They were maybe 50 yards out in front of me when this pickup came up the road. It was all up hill from the road to this little knob I was on. Big Bubba and Yahoo # 2 see the deer. Their first shot out the drivers window missed it's mark and took the bark off a tree about 3 yards from me at head height. My instant reaction was a round over the pickup which got it moving real fast. They could have just as well hit me as the tree. They didn't see me or know I was there. I had walked in from a logging road 200 yards away. They weren't thinking about someone being around. All they were trying to do was break the law and poach a deer. No deer is worth disregarding the old rule of "being sure of your target and what's beyond". If they had wounded or killed me they probably wouldn't have known it and would have driven off.
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
In PA it's illegal to step out of a vehicle and shoot at any animal, however, it is totally legal to drive up the road, get out and walk back the road and shoot from the road. If you get out of a vehicle, you have to walk off the road XX yards, but if your parked 100 yards down the road I honestly don't think it's illegal to shoot from said road.
Every rifle season guys line up on the roads to watch as drivers push woods. That being said, I really don't see a problem if you put a good stalk on a deer after seeing them from the vehicle. Tim's question, would you walk back and off the road into the woods and take a shot? I consider walking into bow range of any animal is a feat regardless if you caught a glimpse of said animal from a vehicle. Seeing them from the truck, no not hunting but stalking to bow range of a whitetail, hunting no matter how you spotted them. IMO Never have done that tho, would seriously consider it. |
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I dont get why you ask this question, the answer is obvious.[&:]
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You do whatever is legal and you take that animal...
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
wouldn't have a problem with it. As long as it is legal
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i think you get what i mean rob. like you usually do must be better at reading my post.:D:D:D
Again guys i do not mean to stop and shoot from my truck or just jump out and walk to feet in the woods and shoot. I mean to pull up 50 or 100 yards or what ever it be out of sight. Hike into the woods out of sight of the deer and stalk to them and shoot if i Can be it with a bow or muzzle loader or shotgun. i would not just shoot from the road or with out making sure the shot is clear. just like anyone else stalking a deer. ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer In PA it's illegal to step out of a vehicle and shoot at any animal, however, it is totally legal to drive up the road, get out and walk back the road and shoot from the road. If you get out of a vehicle, you have to walk off the road XX yards, but if your parked 100 yards down the road I honestly don't think it's illegal to shoot from said road. Every rifle season guys line up on the roads to watch as drivers push woods. That being said, I really don't see a problem if you put a good stalk on a deer after seeing them from the vehicle. Tim's question, would you walk back and off the road into the woods and take a shot? I consider walking into bow range of any animal is a feat regardless if you caught a glimpse of said animal from a vehicle. Seeing them from the truck, no not hunting but stalking to bow range of a whitetail, hunting no matter how you spotted them. IMO Never have done that tho, would seriously consider it. |
RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
I would do it.
I THINK in Missouri you have to be so far from your vehicle but as far as distance from the road I don't think it matters as long as you are off the road and not shooting across it. I have never had this happen but I will brush up on my game laws before season and see what is legal. |
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ORIGINAL: davidmil Besides being illegal in just about every state I know of.... the biggest thing is... it's just down right dangerous. You have no idea who's around, who's sitting in the hedgerow behind the animal or anything. I had one of the scariest incidents involving just such a senerio many years ago. I had returned from 2 tours of dodging bullets in Vietnam. I left the service and was living in Georgia. I had this woods that was great and secluded except for a dirt road down one side of it. One particular morning I was hunting about 125 yards off the road in a pine head. It was a big open set of pines with a thicket down one side and at the back. I was sitting near the intersection of the two thickets in the back corner. I was glassing and saw some does come across the road walking in my direction. I wasn't looking for doe meat that day so just relaxed and watched the parade of 8 does. They were maybe 50 yards out in front of me when this pickup came up the road. It was all up hill from the road to this little knob I was on. Big Bubba and Yahoo # 2 see the deer. Their first shot out the drivers window missed it's mark and took the bark off a tree about 3 yards from me at head height. My instant reaction was a round over the pickup which got it moving real fast. They could have just as well hit me as the tree. They didn't see me or know I was there. I had walked in from a logging road 200 yards away. They weren't thinking about someone being around. All they were trying to do was break the law and poach a deer. No deer is worth disregarding the old rule of "being sure of your target and what's beyond". If they had wounded or killed me they probably wouldn't have known it and would have driven off. He isn't talking about shooting them out of a vehicle or road hunting as we know it. I detest that and agree it is very dangerous and stupid. I've had to hit dirt a few times from carelessroad hunting slobs shooting at running deer. Sadly it isn't illegal here and used by quite a few. [:'(] Just not sure how you get road hunting out of seeing a deer, drivng past itand getting out to stalk it. You still have to be sure of your target and what's beyond. We are talking two different things. Tim edit... the tittle of the post does sound like road hunting... maybe that is were the confusion is.[&:] Iwas refering to his post. I still agree with you on the road huntingthough. :D |
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No, i wouldnt
Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that. |
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ORIGINAL: NY/Al I dont get why you ask this question, the answer is obvious.[&:] My answer is: no, I don't do it hog hunting or bear hunting, so I wouldn't do it deer hunting...JMO...:D |
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Yes i would and have . pulled up to a spot i hunt , saw a doein the distance so i stalked up to her and when i got in range i let her have an arrow through both lungs.
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I'd rather eat dog poop than to hunt like that.
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Everyone has there own opinion of "hunting" If it's legal and your ok with it then do it.. Some don't think it's challenging to just go sit in a tree stand and wait for a deer to walk by.. In some regions spot and stalk starts this way. You use a boat or a vehicle to drive and glass until you see an animal. Then you put on a stalk and if your lucky and good you get a shot.. I've seen it done in the mountains and I've seen it done in Africa.. On the other part that some have brought up, if you stopped in the road I would never even consider shooting from the road or a vehicle but I don't think that's what your saying... soooo...
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer In PA it's illegal to step out of a vehicle and shoot at any animal, however, it is totally legal to drive up the road, get out and walk back the road and shoot from the road. If you get out of a vehicle, you have to walk off the road XX yards, but if your parked 100 yards down the road I honestly don't think it's illegal to shoot from said road. Every rifle season guys line up on the roads to watch as drivers push woods. That being said, I really don't see a problem if you put a good stalk on a deer after seeing them from the vehicle. Tim's question, would you walk back and off the road into the woods and take a shot? I consider walking into bow range of any animal is a feat regardless if you caught a glimpse of said animal from a vehicle. Seeing them from the truck, no not hunting but stalking to bow range of a whitetail, hunting no matter how you spotted them. IMO Never have done that tho, would seriously consider it. |
RE: seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
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i got the idea because i saw a show where they did this in the west like new mexico or something
ORIGINAL: demoIL Everyone has there own opinion of "hunting" If it's legal and your ok with it then do it.. Some don't think it's challenging to just go sit in a tree stand and wait for a deer to walk by.. In some regions spot and stalk starts this way. You use a boat or a vehicle to drive and glass until you see an animal. Then you put on a stalk and if your lucky and good you get a shot.. I've seen it done in the mountains and I've seen it done in Africa.. On the other part that some have brought up, if you stopped in the road I would never even consider shooting from the road or a vehicle but I don't think that's what your saying... soooo... |
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i in no way changed anything in the post i never said i would drive into a field or shoot from the road or vechial.
The first line in the post said that. The orginal post is still the same i changed the title because it was recommend to me so it was less confusing Yes the title said shooting from the road but the post said something differnt thats why i changed the title. Whati mean by the post is seeing a deer while driving andstopping up the road and stalking into the woods. ORIGINAL: davidmil Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL |
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whats the point in the pic david.
Here is the post OK first i know it is beyond illegal and unethical to shoot from a vehicle or even when you on a road. not my question. i say right here i i do not mean to shoot from a vehicle or the road I have been driving either looking for a pull off or field or area that looks like it might be a spot to scout. Every time i go scouting i see at least one or two field that have good size deer in them. If you where driving came up on a bean fieldsaw deer on public property would you drive up alittle park get out. walk make to field. Then walk in the woods say 20 feet and take a shot if the deer were still there. I think here you can not hunt with in 10 feet of a road so i would move atleast 20 if i could It says right here i mean to walkback into the woods from the road not shoot from the road or a vehicle. i know this might be hard with a bow. but what if you had a rifle or a muzzle loader. Give you answer for bow ml and a shotgun or rifle. if it differs. I did not change the title to deceive anyone or change i point on the subject. I changed it because a member pointed out it made the post confusing ORIGINAL: TJF ORIGINAL: davidmil Besides being illegal in just about every state I know of.... the biggest thing is... it's just down right dangerous. You have no idea who's around, who's sitting in the hedgerow behind the animal or anything. I had one of the scariest incidents involving just such a senerio many years ago. I had returned from 2 tours of dodging bullets in Vietnam. I left the service and was living in Georgia. I had this woods that was great and secluded except for a dirt road down one side of it. One particular morning I was hunting about 125 yards off the road in a pine head. It was a big open set of pines with a thicket down one side and at the back. I was sitting near the intersection of the two thickets in the back corner. I was glassing and saw some does come across the road walking in my direction. I wasn't looking for doe meat that day so just relaxed and watched the parade of 8 does. They were maybe 50 yards out in front of me when this pickup came up the road. It was all up hill from the road to this little knob I was on. Big Bubba and Yahoo # 2 see the deer. Their first shot out the drivers window missed it's mark and took the bark off a tree about 3 yards from me at head height. My instant reaction was a round over the pickup which got it moving real fast. They could have just as well hit me as the tree. They didn't see me or know I was there. I had walked in from a logging road 200 yards away. They weren't thinking about someone being around. All they were trying to do was break the law and poach a deer. No deer is worth disregarding the old rule of "being sure of your target and what's beyond". If they had wounded or killed me they probably wouldn't have known it and would have driven off. He isn't talking about shooting them out of a vehicle or road hunting as we know it. I detest that and agree it is very dangerous and stupid. I've had to hit dirt a few times from carelessroad hunting slobs shooting at running deer. Sadly it isn't illegal here and used by quite a few. [:'(] Just not sure how you get road hunting out of seeing a deer, drivng past itand getting out to stalk it. You still have to be sure of your target and what's beyond. We are talking two different things. Tim edit... the tittle of the post does sound like road hunting... maybe that is were the confusion is.[&:] Iwas refering to his post. I still agree with you on the road huntingthough. :D ORIGINAL: davidmil Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
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ORIGINAL: TJF If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? :eek: Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more. I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question. Tim |
RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
thats the idea
i had not thought about stalking untill i thought of this i am a big guy and did nto think i could. Like you said i would not drive around till i found some deer. my main spot i pass one field walk through another. The second spot i plan to hunt i pass three fields one corn one clover and walk through a bean field to get to my spot. Around he you do not drive through the fish and wildlife area with passing a field or two. they have alot of clover/sorgum field here for the deer ORIGINAL: RuttNutt ORIGINAL: TJF If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? :eek: Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more. I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question. Tim |
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ORIGINAL: Siman08/OH No, i wouldnt Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that. |
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hey in ky or nc that might have been true.
In both ky and nc i knew many people that had turkeys chickens and i knew a guy that had a farm. said everyday the wild turkeys would come into the farm and hang out with his turkeys. ORIGINAL: superstrutter ORIGINAL: Siman08/OH No, i wouldnt Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that. |
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ORIGINAL: TJF If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? :eek: Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more. I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question. Tim [/quote] That is why I was a little confused by peoples answers. I think people interpreted it wrong. I hunta few spots within view of the road. If I was going out hunting, pulled into my parking area and saw abuck in one ofthe fields I had been preparing all year, You better believe I am putting a stalk on. Granted it will be a few hundred yards, but I put time intomaking that area deer ready. I wasn't"RoadHunting" I was going to my spot. What am I supose to do, scare off the deer, get in my stand and hope it comes back to make it ethical? If you are truly going to that spot to hunt and would have been out in that area deer or no deer, I find nothing wrong with it. If you put on some sort of stalk or used your knowledge of deer and deer hunting to move into a position that made you make an ethicalshot that wasn't something any road hunter could take, then I say go ahead. A Stalk to me though isn't going 100 ft up the road, parking the truck and walking back down to where you saw the deer, go 15 ft. off the road and attempting the shot. If an effort was put in and you had the posibility to get busted by the deer, then I find nothing wrong with it. |
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